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[tpa-pr]

Ah I see the Corsair Vengence strikes again.

I have Corsair Vengeance running at 6000Mhz that has been fine so far, but I am interested in this. Is Corsair RAM notorious for its instability or something?

I was considering bumping from 64GB to 96GB in the near future and was thinking about buying Corsair again.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

I have Corsair Vengeance running at 6000Mhz that has been fine so far, but I am interested in this. Is Corsair RAM notorious for its instability or something?

I was considering bumping from 64GB to 96GB in the near future and was thinking about buying Corsair again.

Vengeance is essentially the "value brand" for Corsair memory.

 

[tpa-pr]

Vengeance is essentially the "value brand" for Corsair memory.

What is their high-end branding? Dominator?

 

[phanbuey]

I have Corsair Vengeance running at 6000Mhz that has been fine so far, but I am interested in this. Is Corsair RAM notorious for its instability or something?

I was considering bumping from 64GB to 96GB in the near future and was thinking about buying Corsair again.

When zen intially came out on DDR4 corsair vengence was highly unstable on the x370/b350 chipsets. It was also the cheapest - so many people like me discovered that the hard way. It was problematic up until x570 on some mobos. Some motherboards ended up fixing it, and afaik the DDR5 stuff is absolutely fine, but for a good while there it was a known bad combo.

 

[trparky]

Vengeance is essentially the "value brand" for Corsair memory.

What does that make the regular Corsair brand?

Or do I even want to know.

 

[phanbuey]

What does that make the regular Corsair brand?

Or do I even want to know.

slightly binned vengence with taller heatsinks

 

[trparky]

slightly binned vengence with taller heatsinks

So wait... Vengeance --> Corsair --> Dominator?

 

[ShrimpBrime]

What is their high-end branding? Dominator?

Dominator Platinum would be their highest tier I believe.

Any kit essentially 6000mt/s and lower is budget ICs generally not capable of high frequency or certain timing set at X voltage. Secondary and tertiary timings included.

Not to mention the PCB that might be used in certain kits, although Im not researched on DDR5, but for DDR4, the B-Die Samsung kits used PCB revisions A0, A1 and A2, where 0 and 1 where typically better for OC.

But many technicalities shouldn't or just dont matter to a common user.

No worries, I have some 5600mt/s kit and it does OK even with a 200mhz OC. Gets the job done.

 

[Waldorf]

@tpa-pr
the "problem" is that a lot of the vengeance stuff is highly binned, and they tend to use different dies on the same model nbr, meaning two of the same kits can have various dies, without being mentioned by corsair.
funny thing tho, the oh so "praised" Gskills are also highly binned (so not much left for manual tuning), and i never had any corsair refuse to run at specced A-XMP profile on ryzen, while the few Gskill kits i tried on mine didnt.

i wouldnt waste money on domnators, just lookup what dies are being used, e..g on Ryzen (DDR4) anything that did 3600C14 or 4000C19 was basically Samsung b-die, or equivalent other brand), no matter the kit/brand.
the LPX are usually worth it.

 

[trparky]

funny thing tho, the oh so "praised" Gskills are also highly binned (so not much left for manual tuning)

But isn't that a good thing? You know, your homework has already been done for you.

I have G.Skill memory in my Ryzen 7700X system, runs solid. I only bought the kit of memory because Steve of Hardware Unboxed suggested it seeing that he features the memory kit in a lot of his videos.

 

[Waldorf]

@trparky
it leaves you less room for tuning, while ignoring that they are doing the same thing, what the "dont buy corsair" brandis doing.
ignoring that )for me) even those corsairs that werent on the MBs QVL (customers wanting rgb)/kits didnt get tested on ryzen/AMP profile) i always got to work as specced (3600C18), something i cant say for the Gskills.

e.g. picking Gskill over others on ryzen systems wasnt as "save" as many believed/claimed, while those brands/kits ppl said to stay away from, worked just fine, and in case of brands like Patriot, were even cheaper than the Gskills every time i compared the same kits (clock/timings).

 

[ir_cow]

TM5 will get your ram hot, trust me.

Yep. 60c isn't bad. Depending on the frequency and timings you can get errors from 38c to 80s. Just depends on what the setup is.

 

[_roman_]

Yep. 60c isn't bad. Depending on the frequency and timings you can get errors from 38c to 80s. Just depends on what the setup is.

Thanks

I think I screwed up a few hours ago. I had to redo all the mainboard settingsm as msi does not allow import of older uefi saved settings. I think around 43°C-45°C I got errors.
The only explanation to myself is the RAM temperature. I set the fan to 0% and forgot about them.

I strongly believe RAM temperature is very important on AM5 with DDR5.