Ways to persuade my father to let me build a PC

[Mussels]

everythings been covered fairly well except one point.

You can get longer warranties buying yourself. A good example is seagate hard drives have a 5 year warranty, whereas at a store the entire PC has one global warranty (1-2 years).

Buying yourself means when you warranty it, you get the same part back - at a local store, they could swap your gaming ram for generic stuff, your 500W antec for a 450W "came with a case" POS, and so on.

Doing it yourself, at least you know what you have, and know what you'll get in warranties if it breaks.

 

[crazy pyro]

Buying yourself means when you warranty it, you get the same part back - at a local store, they could swap your gaming ram for generic stuff, your 500W antec for a 450W "came with a case" POS, and so on.

Doing it yourself, at least you know what you have, and know what you'll get in warranties if it breaks.

If they dared do that I'd go bloody well OFF IT with them, particularly since I'd be taking in the parts anyway. If I bought prebuilt and got the local PC shop to do it there would be several of my mates knocking on their door in combats, probably carrying air rifles in a very threatening manner (Couldn't get the real thing out of school unless we ran away on a combat weekend but I'm not gonna try that).

 

[FreedomEclipse]

well - If hes incompetant then slap the bitch & shout at him till your throat feels like you've swallowed half a ton of sand.


P.S

This method is usually VERY effective on my girlfriend

 

[CDdude55]

well - If hes incompetant then slap the bitch & shout at him till your throat feels like you've swallowed half a ton of sand.


P.S

This method is usually VERY effective on my girlfriend

He'll beat him like an old blanket.

 

[Mussels]

If they dared do that I'd go bloody well OFF IT with them, particularly since I'd be taking in the parts anyway. If I bought prebuilt and got the local PC shop to do it there would be several of my mates knocking on their door in combats, probably carrying air rifles in a very threatening manner (Couldn't get the real thing out of school unless we ran away on a combat weekend but I'm not gonna try that).

well i have had it happen to me, and to several friends when we were younger. i ended up working for a store after they 'helped' repair my precious gaming PC (despite the fact some of my games no longer ran) and in the end learned a geforce 4 MX was not the upgrade for my GF3 Ti that i thought it was. also, i found out that the store owners personal PC had a bios modded geforce 3, suspiciously named the "mussels3D uber leet edition"

needless to say, i quit and took my hardware back. that was nearly 10 years ago... woo i'm gettin o.l.d.

 

[crazy pyro]

Hmmmm, guess you went a bit crazy eh mussels? I'll order the parts on monday when the VAT drop comes since it means I'll be able to squeeze an e8400 out of the budget as well, dad's being a pain and not actually talking to me now though so who knows what will happen.

 

[Thrackan]

Well, as long as he doesn't talk to you he won't be saying you can't build your rig right?

 

[crazy pyro]

When I asked him about it this morning he asked about the other shop in town that would do it, one thing they're charging around £60 so he then just started ignoring me... (All this becuase I forgot to turn the heating off on thursday night when he told me to do it when I went to bed at 5 o'clock, bear in mind I went to bed at eleven, he expects me to remember six hours oh well.)

 

[Flyordie]

I built mine from scratch... and he didn't have a single problem... (he being my dad).. First machine I ever built was a S754 Athlon64 3000+ Rig with an AGP 7200GT AIW with Windows 98SE. ;-)
So, I started small and loved it. If its your money, spend it your way.

Fly

 

[Wozzer]

Where abouts in the UK do you live...?

 

[crazy pyro]

Newcastle, up in the cold northern parts of England.

 

[crazy pyro]

Ah crap, I brought up the constructive things mentioned in this thread and he flatly refused, he thinks I'm incompetent. I'm sorry but the guy in the local PC shop is probably less competent than I am, at least I don't recommend an 850w PSU to run an e8400 and a 4850 on, I just come here and ask you lot first...
If I don't want to take it to the idiot's PC shop I'm going to have to spend around £60 to get it built by the looks of things.

 

[Ongaku]

thick head huh?

I tried to explain it to my uncle and he still doesn't get it. But, I tend to recommend pre-built systems to people who just want to wander around the Internet, e-mail, watch videos, and use Office or that don't give a crap how powerful their computer is, they just want a computer.

 

[crazy pyro]

It's not for that purpose though, it's for gaming and over the christmas holidays there will be LARGE amounts of it.

 

[Ongaku]

yeah exactly, if someone tells me they want their system for gaming, you gotta go for a home build because most pre-built ones have either crappy onboard or a crappy version of a reasonable video card.

 

[crazy pyro]

Or they have a crappy processor/ motherboard/ RAM. I was in PC world the other day and had to laugh when I was reading the spec of one of the prebuilts in there it said "High speed DDR2 667MHz RAM", I'd like to know what they consider slow to be.

 

[KBD]

Ah crap, I brought up the constructive things mentioned in this thread and he flatly refused, he thinks I'm incompetent. I'm sorry but the guy in the local PC shop is probably less competent than I am, at least I don't recommend an 850w PSU to run an e8400 and a 4850 on, I just come here and ask you lot first...
If I don't want to take it to the idiot's PC shop I'm going to have to spend around £60 to get it built by the looks of things.

pyro, i think there is only one way to prove to your dad that you are competent - to build it your self and then show it to him. Does he know to build or no? If he does he can watch you. Or just put it together when he is not home and present to him when him when he gets back. Remember, its your money, there is no reason you should throw away 60 pounds on something you can do yourself, we are not talking about change here, thats like a $120 US, $30 more and you can buy an e8400.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

yeah exactly, if someone tells me they want their system for gaming, you gotta go for a home build because most pre-built ones have either crappy onboard or a crappy version of a reasonable video card.

If not crappy parts - then stupidly expensive & overpriced because whoever that built the machine be it HP or Demonware or Dell ETC ETC are 'bringing you the BEST tech for your money...' or so they always claim

its pretty laughable - theres very very few brands/companies that I would trust to make me an OEM build. the parts shop i regularly shop at & recommend to friends does custom system builds. & their the only people I trust not to stitch me up with cheap parts if i was to order a pre-built from them. I know all the guys that work there - even the manager. I'm sure they know me too because they have a few posters of me behind the counter saying "DONT SERVE OR MAKE ANY FORM OF CONTACT WITH THIS PERSON AS HE IS HIGHLY DANGEROUS - CALL THE COPS!!!"

Seriously - I'm there so much its literally my 2nd home when im out n about. I like to stop off there & chat to a few of the guys there about new tech & other things.


if possible its ALWAYS best to build it yourself if you can. save a lot of money that way & you can sleep at night knowing that GOOD parts have gone into the build

 

[crazy pyro]

My dad would go OFF it when he saw that I'd built it myself...
I'll update it to the rig I've changed it to now since I've upgraded the CPU to an e8400 again, budget's bang on £600 including vista, surprisingly PC world is the cheapest place I can find it...

 

[FreedomEclipse]

My dad would go OFF it when he saw that I'd built it myself...

that SUCKS but I know some parents can be 'difficult' to put it bluntly - their not willing to take risks etc etc. but if your REALLY confident that you CAN do it - then you have to push your parents asside for one second - do the job & then show them the end result. just make sure you fit everything correctly because if u mess it up, you will infuriate your dad even more & also yourself because your out of pocket & your dad wont let you hear the end of "I-told-you-so's"


my parents were like that once. but you gotta force their hand otherwise you'l never have an opinion at the family table.

I have 3 qualifications in I.T hardware support - 4years of studying -

I buildt the 3 machines that are in my house - Mine, my backup & my mums pc

Ive restored COUNTLESS numbers of both old & new machines dating back to an Intel SX/DX I/II - Ive had COUNTLESS call outs by Family/Friends/Family Friends & A few calls from small private companies to fix their pc's yet when my dad said he wanted a new pc buildt - he wouldnt let me any where near it because 'I might break something'

you really have to push otherwise they wont jump

 

[ShadowFold]

Just order, build and don't show them. They seem like the kind that wouldn't let you do anything that could result in anything bad.. I built my friend a rig but his mom had to watch me do it..

 

[crazy pyro]

There's no family table, just my dad but I get what you mean. He wouldn't care if I'd got it right though.

 

[ShadowFold]

There's no family table, just my dad but I get what you mean. He wouldn't care if I'd got it right though.

I built mine in my lap, you don't need a table.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

There's no family table, just my dad but I get what you mean. He wouldn't care if I'd got it right though.

that was just an expression. If he wont care if u got it right then no disrespect but screw him! even more reason to do what you want to do - your the one thats gonna be using the pc, not him. & if he does get pissed that you disobeyd him then im sure he will get over it with time if he see's your system is working.

 

[crazy pyro]

Yeah, thing is he'll probably refuse to give me any hot food for a week or so lol, he'd also end up cutting me off from the internet knowing him.
Also he might use it sometimes IE when he breaks his laptop from work lol.