• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.
  • The forums have been upgraded with support for dark mode. By default it will follow the setting on your system/browser. You may override it by scrolling to the end of the page and clicking the gears icon.

WebXPRT 4 performance scores

This seems to be a pretty poor CPU testing benchmark it fails to push all threads to anywhere near their maximum and very poorly multi core aware wit the max core's/threads being used is ~4 but on average it's mostly single core/thread leading to poor utilization of ~14% at most

According to the authors of the test, this is the most reliable browser benchmark.

It has been known for some time that browsers are single threaded. However, that doesn't mean it's a bad benchmark.
Even for Cinebench, many reviews often mention the single-thread performance in addition to the multi-threading performance.

Most apps that the average user uses every day are single-threaded.
Think of an email client, calculator, PDF viewers, file managers, text editors, browsers, LAME, Flutter (out-of-the-box), Telegram, etc.
For LibreOffice it is only Calc that uses multi-threading, for example LibreOffice Writer and Impress (which are much more commonly used than Calc) are both single-threaded.
One of the most distinctive features of Node. js is its single-threaded architecture.
Most Linux/Unix terminal tools are single threaded as Bash used to be single threaded.
Even the most popular backup tool of Linux systems (rsync) is single threaded.

It is very logical to conclude that single-threading benchmarks are what determine the average person's daily performance the most.

There are also certain advantages that single-threaded apps have over multi-threaded apps:
- less complex software build is time-saving for developers
- easier to debug = more stable software
- Intel Hyperthreading and AMD Simultaneous Multithreading (SMT) both have many vulnerabilities, meaning single-threaded apps score better in terms of security

PCManFM (Qt version) is probably also single-threaded and starts on OpenBSD in 0.1x second.
It's not like multi-threading is going to make this app noticeably faster for standard users. In many situations multi-threading is of no use.

lximage-qt and many other image viewer apps don't seem like multi-threaded apps to me either.
But lximage-qt opens in exactly 0.1 second on OpenBSD with a slow SATA SSD.

It appears that Firefox will use multi-threading for some tasks in the future.

Suppose all apps were written in the programming language that is most optimal for multi-threading (Haskell), the Intel 12700KF could be faster than the 7800X3D in almost all apps.

Because it's Haskell, developers also save a lot of time.
The app is also more secure than in other programming languages since Haskell apps have significantly fewer bugs than Python/C/Java/C++/JS apps.
 
hVCcgVj.png


Hardware: Intel 12700KF (stock) -- G.SKILL RIPJAWS @3600 CL18 (stock) -- Sapphire RX 7600 -- ASRock B760M-ITX/D4 WiFi -- fractal design DEFINE NANO S -- bequiet! SYSTEM POWER 10 550W -- DeepCool AG500BK ARGB -- EVO 850 500GB
Software: OpenBSD -current, bspwm, Mesa open-source driver, UFS file system, Chromium 127.0.6533.72

In post 20 on this thread, I arrived at the following result:
Chromium + Gentoo (KDE Plasma) + Intel 12600KF + DDR5 @ 6000MHz = 428 (WebXPRT 3)

Chromium is normally going to feel very similar on Gentoo as it does on OpenBSD -current in terms of performance.
 
HHizG0O.png


Hardware: Intel 12700KF (stock) -- G.SKILL RIPJAWS @3600 CL18 (stock) -- Sapphire RX 7600 -- ASRock B760M-ITX/D4 WiFi -- fractal design DEFINE NANO S -- bequiet! SYSTEM POWER 10 550W -- DeepCool AG500BK ARGB -- EVO 850 500GB
Software: Clear Linux, Gnome, Mesa open-source driver, EXT4 file system, Firefox 128.0.2

This result is without using the new schedutil patches. It could be that these new patches lead to higher performance in this test.
Source https://www.phoronix.com/news/Schedutil-30p-Speedometer-Boost
 
9700x@PBO
I don't know what's the Mozilla problem with this bench.

Waterfox

Screenshot 2024-08-29 003502.png
 
I don't know what's the Mozilla problem with this bench.

I don't consider Waterfox to be Mozilla but a mod of a Mozilla app.
Firefox on Linux performs similarly and sometimes better than Chromium-based browsers in WebXPRT 3/4.

Can you test Firefox Nightly?
It's the bottom option on this page: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/

Also, can you do a multi-core benchmark of the Ryzen 7 9700x?
For example, the test below gives a good idea of the multi-core performance.
 
Can you test Firefox Nightly?
Here's the difference day and night :)
My Waterfox has too many extensions and limitations, so they probably make the result worse.


Screenshot 2024-08-29 110342.png
 
OC 9800x3d with a VM running in the background
1734800247201.png
 
Back
Top