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Well, build log, profession advancement... The works I guess!! :) Complete and Total Overkill part 3!!

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Well I can't believe people look at this thread and think, impressive or the word jealous about it :laugh: Still, I'm hoping to put up an update soon, a few things have been going on behind the scenes that I'd like to share with everyone, so I can update and put up some pictures etc. :)

I think I should update the thread more often but never works :laugh: Try to do it when everyone is in bed but get too tired and then I can't type properly :laugh: I hope with what is coming over from the US, that people will enjoy the builds and hardware.. It should be interesting but customs is taking ages to do anything :( Frustrating... Must stop buying things I guess :)
 

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I think swimming the distance would take less time than having it shipped over to be honest!! :laugh: I believe my mate sent it to me on the 12th June.... It's been stuck in UK customs for about a week.. Could it be really that difficult to pick something up? Put in in a plane or whatever, deliver it to customs, get them to check over it, then send me a bill and then I call pay and they deliver it?? I really must be missing something....

Still, as soon as I can guys I'll put up an update, promise :D
 

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Well guys and gals, I thought since it had been a little while and well, I've been a little busy the last few days, I thought I'd give you a bit of an update on a few things that have been happening :)

First thing, job wise... The hunt is still very much continuing, but we are making progress. I'm trying to stick close to home as I can not be bothered with the driving of late and more so for work, if I can cycle to work and back, then I'll be happy and fine doing that... Whilst I'm not rushing to find something, I'm waiting for something that comes up that is close by and that's at least paying more and has some sort of progression involved because where I am currently, I have nothing at the moment and that is just really frustrating me and is not helping any sort of progression or in more cases, me learning at all... For the last 2 years its not changed and since the change over in ownership, well, that's helped even less so a move is definitely needed. When you get to the point of not wanting to be at work, you know you need to move.... So a few more emails and calls back to a few various agencies, I hope to have some sort of progression on the job front at some point....

Second, well... As at least some of you (maybe most of you....????) know I have a habit for collecting and having a few bits of hardware my loft was becoming a nightmare to get in and about in simply because we had so much up there with all the girls toy boxes and such that we keep when we have the packaging for when we sell it on... Sadly also the amount of hardware in there as well was also starting to give me a few issues so we had a move around and tidy up and I've been adding a few things too... So rather than bore you too much with the details you don't care about, we'll just get going to the money shots I guess :D
So here we go....
We have the before hand......

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So the area that was emptied was in need of the work, so after moving everything away from that and getting down what I could (the Mrs's would have killed me if I had taken everything out the loft to make way for the boards etc. that needed to go up there... So it took longer than planned but I think I have got it where I want it to be...... More picture time.....

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Some of the tools for the job.... I won't be doing selfies in this lot of pictures, it was soooooooo hot up in that loft, I think I might have insulated it a little too much!! :laugh: But I digress, time to move on....


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So we ripped up the little board that was put down, finding two taller supports that had been put there when they first built the house I presume, there was a water tank up in the loft, which I had removed when I moved in and had a combi gas boiler put in and had the old oil boiler taken away.. Had to have gas piped to the house as well since there was just the oil tanker out the back but no real importance there I suppose, so I'll just shut up and move on :D
The 4th shot was when I had cut the boards and made sure they all fit in, which surprisingly as yours truly was doing it, they all did... I grabbed a new roll of insulation, managed to use the full roll pretty much as I put three layers down in between each of the rafters (I was even more so lucky since I never put my foot through the roof at all!!) and then I put on the 22mm thick P5 boards to cover that over and then give us a flat floor in the loft.. Actually went pretty darn well to be honest...

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Then the fun started as I had to sort my way through all of this lot, to get done what I had in mind... Which was basically.....

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Putting up shelves properly along the rafters and making sure they where supported and decent enough for what was being put up on them... As you can see I had a few large shelves, I believe the 15ft one turned into nearly 20 foot total and the one on the other side was more or less the same as I missed out a little bit near to the hatch... So... Here's what that looked like....

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So after all the sweating, swearing and such was completed, not to mention the horrible dust from the insulation had settled somewhat (thank god for proper breathing face masks!!) I was on my way to sort out the whole of the roof and sort out the important things....... So now I will shut up because these next few pics might be a lot nicer than anything I can say......

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So there we go.... I seem to have got a little more than I thought I had surprisingly but I was so glad when I could actually see the floor and have everything on show at the same time... There's a few things not up on show up there, such as RAM and maybe a few GPU blocks and a box of GPUs I've got but I think we all get the idea :D

I think it turned out rather well and I'm very happy that the Mrs's although had her moany moments, gave me enough time to get it finished off. I'm not sure I'm quite so set on the way of the GPUs being laid out but with a few more coming from the US and I'm sure I'll end up buying more here and there (when the prices become more stable anyways)

As I've attached the limit of the photo's in this post, I'll just get on and post again :D
 

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I have got everything more or less finished off, bar the other side which is looking like this at the moment....

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And a money pair of shots just for the last little bit to finish off the above post....

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I'll have to put up another post for some purchases I've done recently, so I'll see you there hopefully!! :D
 
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With all of that hardware, I think that's a beautiful attic! I checked the whole thread and really love your hardware choices.
That's also a lot of Hard Work! :clap::rockout:
 

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So with a few more catch ups on some hardware and some other things I've bought recently, here we go :)

Firstly, I thought as I'd been chasing an upgrade for the Mrs's ultimately, I was keeping an eye around and found this.....

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Well aside from the awesome packaging, well, this CPU is a beast!! :) I love it.... What more could you say about a 3950X? :D Not sure what the performance is like compared to my 2950X but still.... We'll just have to find out for another day I think....

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And so the fun began.... I don't think this is as good a CPU as my previous 3900X for the voltages as such but still, its still a 12C 24T beast and it's going very nicely in my X370 board, in fact both of them are :) WCG and Folding at Home, here we come!! :D A bit more on those later.... Oh, glorified pic first....

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So, as I had a spare CPU around as well, I began testing two other boards I have laying about waiting for that special CPU to sit in and get it running :) I had a X570 for a mate and he wishes to use a 5950X in there, so that's what I'll be getting him :) With testing the boards for the first time, I found out that the board was of an older bios version (I think I'd had it a good 6 months or more....) so by installing the 64GB of RAM I have for both boards I found it was only picking up on 32GB of that, so bios update and test was required... I believe these few pictures are of his motherboard, the non WiFi board, I had the WiFi board as I'd previously got the non WiFi board... (I hope that makes sense ! :laugh: ) So enough of my rubbish, here's the pics :D

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So a quick power on test and make sure it shows all the RAM and boots, always a good start :) I have a new Seasonic 850W for him and he's having my MSI 3090 card to go in it just because :) So I'm happy as I've been able to be completely stupid and grab another... Crazy you say? Yes, yes I am :D :D

Over the last few weeks here in the UK, its become damn hot, so I thought to myself and chatted to a few mates in the US..........

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AC was needed.... So I decided that rather than buying something not quite as powerful and something that might not handle the heat and help with some of the house, I went with a slightly bigger unit.... I've not really any regrets to be honest but I do wish I was able to get a bit more powerful unit so it would have done the whole house rather than 3/4 of it (I kid not! :D The bathroom, 3 bedrooms (incuding the PC room), landing, hallway downstairs, utility room and downstairs loo, is all a much nicer temp than without this unit... Only the kitchen, dining room and living room are left a bit warmer but I think they are cooler as they don't have 6 PCs in one of them kicking out masses of heat! :laugh:) Very pleased :)
Oh and a little comparison in temp recorded by my carbon monoxide alarm...

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The only real sad thing is that when you turn it off before you go to bed, the heat comes back in massively until the temp drops enough outside to cool the rest of the house down again... It's definitely worth the 1200w it pulls from the wall to help keep us cool :D

The only other updates that I have for now are the WCG and Folding upgrades I've done, but I'll stick a link in to the Cruncher thread and that'll do for now :) Another update for a little later... :) Hope it's been worth it everyone, thank you very much for stopping by :)

EDIT - As promised a link to the WCG Cruncher thread for reference with the new setups and power usage etc. :)

Click me if you dare!! with some more pictures and me trying to sound like I know what I'm doing..... :D :D
 
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nice phill! Get that lab setup and start doing some cool shit!

I finally migrated all my VMs to my dual socket. finished this AM.
 

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nice phill! Get that lab setup and start doing some cool shit!

I finally migrated all my VMs to my dual socket. finished this AM.
Thank you @Solaris17 !! :D I have another server to get in the rack at some point soon, so my plans are to watch some of your homelab videos and see if I can actually get some time and start learning some shit! :laugh: Needing to get into DNS, DHCP, Domains and all that jazz because I'd like to see if I could set that up on one of the servers I have here and just play with it. I figure if I can put things into practice at home, I shouldn't be too stumped at work if they ask can I and I can....

How is the new beast going mate? All working well and you've not maxed out the RAM just yet?? ;) They are taking ages to get anything sorted out about getting rid of a few older servers at work, it's like it's going backwards there not bloody forwards!! :(

I had almost forgot to put up a pic for you just whilst I was doing the work on the loft....

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I figure you might like a pic of my baby clamps..... :laugh: :laugh:

I'm hoping to get some more pictures up and a bit of a write up with what I'm doing and how I'm getting on learning from your Homelab vids :) I have a feeling it'll be bloody good!! :D :cool: :respect:

I would have replied sooner but it seemed that by updating my current setups motherboard bios that it didn't want to boot for a while, so after some basic troubleshooting, we are back in business lol :) Now time to go and update the WCG and FAH stats for the day, then bed... Apparently today it's a special day for me... Might have to get up early and since I have the day off of work, I can't imagine what is going to be so damn important!! :laugh:
 

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My big build is going well!



I got everything from my other 3 nodes moved over. Now I can wipe my smaller nodes and do more complex videos with clustering etc when the time comes. Was hard to do previously when your cluster is your production and test environment.

Still plans for the big guy. Expanding my data array a little later and going to source some bigger CPUs soon.
 

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It's very impressive @Solaris17, I wish I had at least some of your insight to understand what it all does!! :) Too Youtube later to find out what HomeLab videos you have there, I think I'm going to be busy!! :laugh:

Have you got enough spare power now or are you still after some more?? :D With the CPUs, I might be interested in them as I'm looking to find a pair of E5-2682-V4's I think they are for my other Dell R730 I have, my mate in the US is hopefully tracking down some DDR4 Server RAM for me, so I'm hoping to upgrade them both to 128GB, not that they need it but meh, if it's not overkill, it's not a Phill's server!! :laugh:

What do you have in store (pardon the crap pun!!) for the storage setup?? Got a few things I believe I'm going to be needing some help with soon, it's going to get interesting and fun I'm very sure of!! :D
 

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Well as it's not all that late, I thought I'd just do a quick update on my little HomeServer that I had bought the Noctua fans for.. So, let the picture feast commence!! :D :D

So here we go, 5 120mm fans and a 1 140mm...... A Fractical Design Node 804......

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And a setup in there that's not really changed for the last 4 years or more...

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Basic Xeon V3, 4C 8T, 16GB, 6 x 4TB WD Reds, setup as 3 Raid 1's so a total usable space of 12TB or just about.. It was dusty in there!!

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So a few pictures of the 'old' fans that were in the system, I had swapped out a few times a couple of fans on the front but as these were seeming to start making a noise and so on, I decided after a bit of a chat with a few friends, Noctua's where the way forward.. So we went with the slightly more expensive models to make sure if we where doing it right, we did it very much right :)

So with getting things installed and sorted out, I was able to route the fan cables around a little better and I removed the built in fan controller at the back of the case, as it was no longer needed.....

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Managed to get all the 4 front fans on one header and as these fans used less power but where more powerful and pushed more air when running than the previous ones, I was very happy with the outcome after I was in the bios trying to suss out the controls for the fan speeds and well, we are doing very well indeed :)
The case is very much silent and considering its in a bedroom upstairs the lack of RGB and noise just makes it even better....

This is something that I'd like to upgrade. The issue I'm having with the upgrade path is that, I'm looking for something that will do all this does (it's a Synology based solution, based on 6.2 DSM I believe??) but what will also allows me to add in things like Plex (or something else like it) I love having the ability to have my phone connected to it so I can upload photos/videos and all the like to it if really needed but what could I replace it with??

I've been taking a look at the Synology based systems and what sort of drives I could use.
I'm very much settled on the Seagate Exos range, I'm considering something at least 12TB each simply because its completely overkill for what I need right now but it will also give me a decent amount of extra storage over and above whatever I will use. I wonder if @seagate_surfer is about and could recommend me some.....
The downside is that I'd like to try and get the case filled with the drives, which on the back side, where the WD Reds are currently, I can fit 8 drives there and another two on the front under the CPU heatsink.... I think for the moment, that the 8 will be more than enough but then depending on how I can raid them up (maybe another 1 or possibly 10??.....) I'd like to make sure I have enough space for backup for whatever size drives I buy just in case.

But then I got thinking if I was to try something else and have it setup in another case etc......... Oh the list goes on :D :D

If anyone has any ideas on what I could try and what I'd need to change and do or whichever, please do let me know :)

There's a first little update/post for you @Tomgang :D :D Stay tuned, there should be a few more !! :D
 
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Well, here we are for a bit of a PC clean up for my Mum's PC that she asked me to build for my sister.....
I think I should have taken a few pics of this thing as it wasn't the nicest thing I've had to work on but I'll share a few quick snaps I took of the state of it....

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It wasn't in a nice state, sat on the floor with cats sometimes in the house as they have three, it's not the worst thing I've worked on so far but when I took everything to pieces, I had a little bit of help with the cleaning of the case and then I had a bit of a surprise for it afterwards... Here's a few more pics....

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So my handy helper was getting involved as well, doing well with the fans as well so handy :) The Mrs was useless.... Not one cuppa made during the whole process, I had to make my own and then hers too!! :laugh: :laugh:

So as I had ordered two B450 Strix Gaming 2 motherboards as they where about £100, but had free mice with them (was mouse mats, but they didn't have any in stock, so I got £50+ worth of ROG Mice, hopefully they'll be decent!!) I thought I'd have an utter bargain.... I'm sure not...
Well since I had a spare Ryzen 1700X laying about as it was taken out one of my Cruncher PCs as I'd upgraded both of my X370 boards to 3900X's, I thought well here we go then, dual core to an eight core, sixteen thread CPU instead :) They originally had a RX 480 from me, but I had been mining on them a little while before hand, so after they had been re-flashed to a stock 480 Strix bios, I got that installed and working again too. I had previously tested all 5 of the RX 480s I had, couldn't find any issues with any of them :) Bargain! :) So below is mostly pictures of the finished product :)

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Case not the best for hiding cables in and the RM450 PSU as well, not the best with the flat cables either but still :)
Was surprised to find that the PSUs fan didn't turn on until the PC was running both WCG crunching and Heaven (pulling about 320w I think according to the watt meter) and I was impressed with the temps and the noise from it, so happy days :)
After a good clean and sort out, back up, it was up and running again. They had Windows 7 so I've got 10 installed on there for them and a bigger booting OS SSD (120GB to 250GB I believe) so pretty much bargain there... Mum said to me, how much was it? Ah was free Mum........... :D :D

I hope that's agreeable with some!! :D I bet I'll have missed something in there!! :laugh:

Now, its been a busy one, so how about we go on to the next build I've done...........
 
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Thanks guys, I'll hopefully get 5 minutes to get a few other things up and running as well since I've had some small little projects to work on :)

@eidairaman1 I'd like that too but they'd need to make the CPU TR size, so we could stand a chance at cooling the damn thing!! :laugh:
 

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Well not only did I have a few builds to do, I had a bit of a switch around in the room so everything came out for a day and a bit and I had a bit of a shuffle about the room... So I'll get the before and after pics, I think that might help :D

So the before... After I had cleared out a bit...

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I had a bit of a try another way around, I was hoping to get the corner desk as it is there in the first pic below and then one of the normal desks by the side of it but there's a slight issue of space and it was literally about 20mm too small, so that went out the window lol :) I also tried the corner desk with the 90 degree part sticking out into the room where the white small desk is in the photo, but that never worked as the cables for the monitors didn't reach and I'm not buying more cables for screens I'm not looking to stay with....

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So after a few moves about the room with the desks, always the fun part, I kinda settled on the setup below for the moment.....

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The two long 'normal' desks by the window as they have been before (they are 1.6m long and 800mm deep each, so it's 3.2m long there.. Then with a small desk/stand, however you wish to call it, in between of the corner desk and the straight by the window, I have one of my Danger Den cases and then in the corner the 900D that holds my EVGA SR-2 setup and then another Danger Den case (same model, DD21 I believe it was called) and then at the moment, I've a load of spares there with the Mrs's PC setup in the corner and looking fairly clear for the moment lol :)

The big case with my Hero 8, 3950X etc. is on the white desk for the moment and all the cables reach so I'm quids in there :D I've been trying to slowly take things out of the room I don't need or use in it, so they have gone up in to the loft.. Near empty case and some spare cables/fans and a few bits. Thankfully, I just need to find some time to tidy away a few extra things and I'll be good to go...

So far I'm liking the new layout, I would love without doubt to get some better screens, but recently my MSI Gaming X 3090 went to my best mate, so I'm back on one of my EVGA 1080 TI SC cards, always worth saving and holding on to GPUs at the moment I think!! :)
As for another day now, my best mates build I will put up hopefully later on tomorrow :) Then I have my newer build to put up and then update the cruncher PC setups as well, so hopefully this thread will be a little busy! :)

Been trying to track down hard drives as well for the moment, for the servers downstairs but also to upgrade my Synology box as I recently found out that all of the partitions in that are running low on space... Not so ideal if I'm honest :( Still, we'll make it work somehow!! :D

I hope that you're enjoying the updates of late :) I hope the next one will be good as well :) :cool: I've also found a few more of my Mum's build I did for her, so I'll try and update the post a bit in there as well :) Until the next time :D
 
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I like big cases and those Danger Den monsters are awesome! Plenty of room to work. I see you have a little helper too. :rockout:
I had them custom made as they hold 2 480 rads, plus a 360 and 10 3.5" drives plus 2 optical drives as well :) They are a beast but bloody hell do they weigh a lot when everything is in the system and filled up!! Crikey, trying to move them with 8 SAS drives in them, 2 GPUs, water and all the rest of it I think I felt like I needed a forklift!! :D :laugh:

Sophia was hiding when I did all of this, the kit that was in her bedroom and everything that was in ours it was a little messy.... lol Just glad I had time to sort it all out :) That said, I believe I've still two more little updates to do, so I'm hoping I can get one at least done tonight, then the other might be a little while as I have to build the system and I've got my eldest daughter with some luck this weekend, here's hoping at least! :D
 

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Right, another little build log with a little twist as this one isn't for me... Little bit of a back story... :)

When I started my role in IT, there was a guy that had been there for years and his name was Jacob. He went on sick for nearly a year due to a few issues and when he came back, the guy that started to help me and teach me whilst helping support the business got him talking and doing a little more around people.. Jake was a shy and quiet guy (maybe some might say a typical IT guy?!?) but either ways he was made redundant about 2 years ago and the last 6 months I think he came out of his shell a lot more than he had done but never the less, we had become good friends and when he left, he stayed in touch. Not being one for chatting much eventually he got a phone sorted, so we started chatting through WhatsApp.. Was a load better than the odd email every so often as he never had the internet at home but we got that sorted out as well.

He's needing a new kidney basically now, so especially over this last 6 months maybe a bit more, friendship got better and so on but we chat every day and whatever its about, we both have a good laugh and enjoy each others company.
Very helpful and giving guy to those that he actually knows and lets them get to know him.

That'll do I think for the back ground story... until a little later on..

So, back a little bit in this project log ( Found it!! Click here to find the first build I did for him ) I made up a rig I had a few spares with and that was a 10C Xeon, E5 2658 V2 I think(!?!) 32GB DDR3 RAM, Gigabyte motherboard X79 but can't remember the exact model, plus a fully water blocked 1080 TI and whatever else was in there :)
It was a massive upgrade from his original CPU specs of i3's/i5's and possibly some early i7's and for some of the video encoding he was doing, instead of the 2.5 hours it took to complete, we had it down to about 10 minutes say for argument :)
I hope and believe he was although taken back by it, it was a great system for him to have and use and he still does to the day for some particular jobs.

A little bit after wards, I was trying to get an upgrade as the 5th Ryzen series had just released and I was like, I would love one of those!! So I got started and started grabbing some parts for him and me. Motherboards, the same, RAM same and you can see where it's going. Basically in the end, he wished to have the same rig as I did... So even though it's massively overkill for anything he will do with it (hopefully some crunching and folding maybe!!) that's what he wished for, so that's what we went for...

Up till a little while ago, we had been trying to find a particular case/tower as he'd had a Thermaltake X9 in black. As I do, I was looking through Ebay and came across this instead for him....

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Well yep, you've guessed it, I found him a white X9 case.. Whilst I was cleaning and not really thinking, I took things apart and forgot a couple pics that would have been helpful but never mind!!

Reason he liked this case was that the GPU card was not hanging on the PCIE slot and was just sat down on it instead.. Much nicer I thought as well, since we measured the MSI card I'd sold him, it was around 1.6kgs (about 4 lbs I think give or take) which is crazy... So still he was very happy and was excited for getting it.
A day or so after it arrived, I said to him, pop over and we'll get it all installed and up and running for you.... So with all the parts and all that he'd wished for at the moment, here's a few snap shots of the hardware we had for his build....

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Like I said, complete overkill :) 5950X, 64GB RAM 3600MHz, RTX 3090, hopefully the Seasonic 850w PSU will be enough, a triple AIO and a couple of drives - Crucial 2TB SSD, Crucial 1TB P5 NVME drive and a couple of BD drives, one 4k enabled too :)

So I got to working on the build and making sure as far as I could, that everything was going to fit, work and basically do what we needed :)

Along the way, I was perplexed with the AIO as trying to get it to fit as the tubing isn't the longest considering the size of this case is well, huge!! We eventually got it fitted in thankfully and it was starting to make the system take shape....

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It was finished in the evening he'd popped over which we'd ordered a take away and had been having a good film feast on during the day as well. Great stuff :)
 
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Right, another little build log with a little twist as this one isn't for me... Little bit of a back story... :)

When I started my role in IT, there was a guy that had been there for years and his name was Jacob. He went on sick for nearly a year due to a few issues and when he came back, the guy that started to help me and teach me whilst helping support the business got him talking and doing a little more around people.. Jake was a shy and quiet guy (maybe some might say a typical IT guy?!?) but either ways he was made redundant about 2 years ago and the last 6 months I think he came out of his shell a lot more than he had done but never the less, we had become good friends and when he left, he stayed in touch. Not being one for chatting much eventually he got a phone sorted, so we started chatting through WhatsApp.. Was a load better than the odd email every so often as he never had the internet at home but we got that sorted out as well.

He's needing a new kidney basically now, so especially over this last 6 months maybe a bit more, friendship got better and so on but we chat every day and whatever its about, we both have a good laugh and enjoy each others company.
Very helpful and giving guy to those that he actually knows and lets them get to know him.

That'll do I think for the back ground story... until a little later on..

So, back a little bit in this project log ( Found it!! Click here to find the first build I did for him ) I made up a rig I had a few spares with and that was a 10C Xeon, E5 2658 V2 I think(!?!) 32GB DDR3 RAM, Gigabyte motherboard X79 but can't remember the exact model, plus a fully water blocked 1080 TI and whatever else was in there :)
It was a massive upgrade from his original CPU specs of i3's/i5's and possibly some early i7's and for some of the video encoding he was doing, instead of the 2.5 hours it took to complete, we had it down to about 10 minutes say for argument :)
I hope and believe he was although taken back by it, it was a great system for him to have and use and he still does to the day for some particular jobs.

A little bit after wards, I was trying to get an upgrade as the 5th Ryzen series had just released and I was like, I would love one of those!! So I got started and started grabbing some parts for him and me. Motherboards, the same, RAM same and you can see where it's going. Basically in the end, he wished to have the same rig as I did... So even though it's massively overkill for anything he will do with it (hopefully some crunching and folding maybe!!) that's what he wished for, so that's what we went for...

Up till a little while ago, we had been trying to find a particular case/tower as he'd had a Thermaltake X9 in black. As I do, I was looking through Ebay and came across this instead for him....

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Well yep, you've guessed it, I found him a white X9 case.. Whilst I was cleaning and not really thinking, I took things apart and forgot a couple pics that would have been helpful but never mind!!

Reason he liked this case was that the GPU card was not hanging on the PCIE slot and was just sat down on it instead.. Much nicer I thought as well, since we measured the MSI card I'd sold him, it was around 1.6kgs (about 4 lbs I think give or take) which is crazy... So still he was very happy and was excited for getting it.
A day or so after it arrived, I said to him, pop over and we'll get it all installed and up and running for you.... So with all the parts and all that he'd wished for at the moment, here's a few snap shots of the hardware we had for his build....

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Like I said, complete overkill :) 5950X, 64GB RAM 3600MHz, RTX 3090, hopefully the Seasonic 850w PSU will be enough, a triple AIO and a couple of drives - Crucial 2TB SSD, Crucial 1TB P5 NVME drive and a couple of BD drives, one 4k enabled too :)

So I got to working on the build and making sure as far as I could, that everything was going to fit, work and basically do what we needed :)

Along the way, I was perplexed with the AIO as trying to get it to fit as the tubing isn't the longest considering the size of this case is well, huge!! We eventually got it fitted in thankfully and it was starting to make the system take shape....

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It was finished in the evening he'd popped over which we'd ordered a take away and had been having a good film feast on during the day as well. Great stuff :)
Now THIS is a Beast Case!
 

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Cooling Lots!! Dual GTX 560 rads with D5 pumps for each rad. One rad for each component
Memory Viper Steel 4 x 16GB DDR4 3600MHz not sure on the timings... Probably still at 2667!! :(
Video Card(s) Asus Strix 3090 with front and rear active full cover water blocks
Storage I'm bound to forget something here - 250GB OS, 2 x 1TB NVME, 2 x 1TB SSD, 4TB SSD, 2 x 8TB HD etc...
Display(s) 3 x Dell 27" S2721DGFA @ 7680 x 1440P @ 144Hz or 165Hz - working on it!!
Case The big Thermaltake that looks like a Case Mods
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA 1600W T2
Mouse Corsair thingy
Keyboard Razer something or other....
VR HMD No headset yet
Software Windows 11 OS... Not a fan!!
Benchmark Scores I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(
But as I believe I was running out of space in that post, we'll progress to post 2 :D

In the morning after a night's sleep, after I'd finished having some help make pancakes for breakfast with the help of "Little Chef"

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I was just going over the system to tidy up some cables and as there was a few places where fans weren't, I decided to get that finished off properly.... well, as good as I could :) A few more pics.... :D :laugh:

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I was trying to wire and hold the cables where they'd be least seen and boy was that not such fun but I think it went pretty well :) The case was also in pretty great condition to be honest, no really issues apart from a good clean was needed before we started putting the hardware in there... It was also surprising that it came with 5 Corsair fans which seemed pretty decent as well. Bonus!! :D
I had a message about 130pm ish last Sunday to say that he was free and so if its possible we'd get it taken over, so the last few complete shots of the setup....

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And so it's little journey in the car over to Jake's place where it met his brother from another mother :D :D

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I'm glad we found it and grabbed it, I think the build and setups for him will be out of this world in comparison so I'm really glad he'll be able to enjoy them both :)

Going back to the above post about why I fell this is sad is that he's already said since the lack of kidney about, the fact if you get one, he was saying there's a chance of cancer afterwards and well, we all know how the rest of it.... But he said he was leaving all of his PC stuff and films to me whenever anything happened to me.. :eek:o_Oo_O:twitch::twitch:
I was utterly blown away with it since I'd rather just have my friend here than a bunch of stuff but at least I'd be able to remember him and think back to these builds and little Sophia saying "Jake, Jake!!" :laugh: :cool: It brings and gives good memories which I feel are so important.

I decided if anything does happen, then I'd most likely keep the PCs of his that we've built up together for him and use them as crunchers and folders. I'm still in disbelief of it all now but as I've learnt over the years, make each moment count you can and try not to think bad of anything, always try for a positive :)

Well this is the positive for me, my mates up to date PC is now done and I hope he's going to be very happy with it :) I believe he'll be looking at some storage server/NAS soon, so watch this space :D

To my best mate, I hope you enjoyed watching and helping put this system together and especially laughed at me when I couldn't figure out how to install the AIO easily :D Jake your one of a kind and I'll always remember ya, especially for your company and time... Best thing ever, not hardware, money or anything like that (Phill what are you saying!!!!!......) but making memories and helping each other out :) Company for each other is also totally brilliant :cool: :cool:

Well guys and gals, this has taken me a little longer than I thought but still, glad I got the update done :D :D Until next time then I guess??........

I hope I haven't screwed anything up in these two posts, its a little late in the day for lots of text and things making sense!! :D :cry: :laugh: :eek:
 
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