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I bought a WD Blue 1TB back in April from newegg(direct from newegg, not one of the marketplace sellers). It died, surprise.

I go to WD's site to file an RMA, add the drive to my account's registered products. And when I try to RMA it I get the error that the drive isn't eligible for RMA because it is either out of Warranty or an OEM drive. It definitely isn't out of warranty.

So I call WD support, and sit on hold for close to an hour. When I finally get someone I explain that I bought the drive from Newegg, it is not from a pre-built system, and that the drive is still under warranty. He confirms that the warranty period hasn't expired, but says the drive was sold as an OEM drive. He tells me that their new policy is that all OEM drives are not covered by their warranty, only drives sold in Retail packaging are covered by their warranty! They no longer handle warranties on OEM packaged drives, even if the end user purchased the OEM drive directly and it didn't come in a pre-built system! WTF!?! He apologized but said there was nothing he could do, the computer system would not allow him to even create an RMA for a drive sold in OEM packaging.

Of course, since 90% of drives sold from e-tailors(like newegg, tigerdirect, ncix, etc.) are OEM packaging, none of those drives are covered by warranty anymore. This is bullshit, and I wanted to let you all know if you're considering buying a hard drive.

Update: The original call was yesterday afternoon. I just called again, this time asking for the call to be escalated to a manager and he was able to get me an RMA number for the drive as well as getting me a free pre-paid return label "for my troubles". Still, this new policy concerns me. Of course maybe I just got a dumbass tech support guy the first time that was tired of doing his job and was just making shit up to get me off the phone as quick as possible(like I said I did wait on hold almost an hour the first time, so I'm guessing the call center staff was being overworked)...

IDK, either way, I'm going to be very hesitant about buying WD drives in the future.
 
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what
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this is retarded
somebody needs to explain to corporate what OEM vs OEM Packaging... means
the OEM drives are the same price as the ones in the retail packaging newegg orders them direct from WD
 
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Appreciate the info. I guess that's something else I'll have to keep in mind for any future HDD purchases.
 

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what
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this is retarded
somebody needs to explain to corporate what OEM vs OEM Packaging... means
the OEM drives are the same price as the ones in the retail packaging newegg orders them direct from WD

You took the words right out of my mouth.
 

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as far as the packaging goes newegg's packaging is better then the retail box with the retail box you get some flimsy cardboard and a some white foam
newegg's drives have always come in those near indestructible balloon cases that you can walk on without fear of braking it
and they are usually double wrapped in a additional layer of bubble wrap
this is complete fucking non-sense
 

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What absolute crap, although to be honest I am not all that surprised, it seems to be the way things are going or like Intel's approach to OEM processors where they only offer a 3 month warranty, same damn chip, just not boxed with a cooler, customer support my arse!
 

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Apparently they are hoping people will just buy a new HDD. In reality, I think they will find that everyone flocks to Seagate and they lose a good portion of the HDD business.

EDIT: Maybe @SuperSoph_WD can shed some light on the rationale behind this?
 

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Apparently they are hoping people will just buy a new HDD. In reality, I think they will find that everyone flocks to Seagate and they lose a good portion of the HDD business.
newegg needs to put a disclaimer up on all of WD's product pages that says this is purchase is no longer protected by a manufacturer warranty,that will get it changed right quick

Apparently they are hoping people will just buy a new HDD. In reality, I think they will find that everyone flocks to Seagate and they lose a good portion of the HDD business.

EDIT: Maybe @SuperSoph_WD can shed some light on the rationale behind this?
most likely doesn't know anything about it ...probly frantically making phone calls before we all LYNCH Western Digital
 
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as far as the packaging goes newegg's packaging is better then the retail box with the retail box you get some flimsy cardboard and a some white foam
newegg's drives have always come in those near indestructible balloon cases that you can walk on without fear of braking it
and they are usually double wrapped in a additional layer of bubble wrap
this is complete fucking non-sense

I don't think it is about the actual packaging, but rather that WD is trying to shift the RMA/support responsibility away from WD an onto the e-tailor that sold the drive to save money on support.
 

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Suddenly, Seagate sales soar!
 

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Wow I can't even remember buying what I would consider a "retail" HDD. I mean you order an HDD from an online shop it's pretty much "OEM" It never comes in a retail box.
 

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Wow I can't even remember buying what I would consider a "retail" HDD. I mean you order an HDD from an online shop it's pretty much "OEM" It never comes in a retail box.

There are a few entries that are retail. Usually the only clue is in the photos (on Newegg-don't know about other etailers) in which you see a picture of a box. Also the warranty period is/was different.
 
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another reason for me to stick with a 500gb SSD for my new build thanks for this info i was just about to buy the 2tb wd black for my new build as a 2nd HDD
 

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Hello, @newtekie1 !

I'm very sorry to hear about this luckless situation that you've encountered, but our RMA policy about OEM drives has never been a secret.
I'd suggest you to take a look at this knowledge base article that explains in details about Retail & OEM drives and see for yourself: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=RqGgWW
This has been our policy since the beginning. Usually when we sell drives to an OEM, they purchase the HDDs along with all the warranty responsibilities, and this is why WD doesn't handle it.
I am going to PM you with some more questions, so that you give me more details about your WD Blue drive.
But unfortunately, it's a Friday and I'm not going to be able to provide you with further details until the beginning of next week.

I hope you'd bear with the me and the drive until then.
SuperSoph_WD
 

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Hello, @newtekie1 !

I'm very sorry to hear about this luckless situation that you've encountered, but our RMA policy about OEM drives has never been a secret.
I'd suggest you to take a look at this knowledge base article that explains in details about Retail & OEM drives and see for yourself: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=RqGgWW
This has been our policy since the beginning. Usually when we sell drives to an OEM, they purchase the HDDs along with all the warranty responsibilities, and this is why WD doesn't handle it.
I am going to PM you with some more questions, so that you give me more details about your WD Blue drive.
But unfortunately, it's a Friday and I'm not going to be able to provide you with further details until the beginning of next week.

I hope you'd bear with the me and the drive until then.
SuperSoph_WD

I have bought numerous WD drives from newegg in OEM-style packages never had a issue with registering or RMAing ANY of them in fact I RMA'd a drive last year that I bought its still registered on my account ...
its been this way for YEARS never had a issue with RMAing anything bought from newegg regardless of packaging or lable
 
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Hello, @newtekie1 !

I'm very sorry to hear about this luckless situation that you've encountered, but our RMA policy about OEM drives has never been a secret.
I'd suggest you to take a look at this knowledge base article that explains in details about Retail & OEM drives and see for yourself: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=RqGgWW
This has been our policy since the beginning. Usually when we sell drives to an OEM, they purchase the HDDs along with all the warranty responsibilities, and this is why WD doesn't handle it.
I am going to PM you with some more questions, so that you give me more details about your WD Blue drive.
But unfortunately, it's a Friday and I'm not going to be able to provide you with further details until the beginning of next week.

I hope you'd bear with the me and the drive until then.
SuperSoph_WD
All I can say is I have used WD drives exclusively for the last 10+ years in all computers for myself and others.
OEM always applied to pre built systems from manufacturers not bare drives, unless WD has been selling newegg drives intended for OEM's or vice versa this policy has changed.
If this policy now extends to bare drives I may have to switch my business to Samsung.

I did just look on newegg and seen bare drives as well as bare OEM drives that were cheaper, in newtekkies case it seems that newegg might have mislabeled the drive he bought as bare drive instead of OEM bare drive
 
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Update: The original call was yesterday afternoon. I just called again, this time asking for the call to be escalated to a manager and he was able to get me an RMA number for the drive as well as getting me a free pre-paid return label "for my troubles". Still, this new policy concerns me. Of course maybe I just got a dumbass tech support guy the first time that was tired of doing his job and was just making shit up to get me off the phone as quick as possible(like I said I did wait on hold almost an hour the first time, so I'm guessing the call center staff was being overworked)...

IDK, either way, I'm going to be very hesitant about buying WD drives in the future.

Newsflash, Seagate has been doing this for years. I hope it was a mistake on the part of the WD support guy, or a channel issue with Newegg!!!

Hello, @newtekie1 !

I'm very sorry to hear about this luckless situation that you've encountered, but our RMA policy about OEM drives has never been a secret.
I'd suggest you to take a look at this knowledge base article that explains in details about Retail & OEM drives and see for yourself: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=RqGgWW
This has been our policy since the beginning. Usually when we sell drives to an OEM, they purchase the HDDs along with all the warranty responsibilities, and this is why WD doesn't handle it.
I am going to PM you with some more questions, so that you give me more details about your WD Blue drive.
But unfortunately, it's a Friday and I'm not going to be able to provide you with further details until the beginning of next week.

I hope you'd bear with the me and the drive until then.
SuperSoph_WD

So is there a difference between a bare drive and OEM???
 

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ok i just registered anouther 1TB blue drive I bought from newegg in the same OEM packaging last November
both of the blue drives listed here where bought from newegg and arrived in OEM packaging
notice both the serial numbers are indeed 'BARE DRIVE' and not retail-box. one I RMA'd once
 
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It feels like they're talking about different things. That they don't support OEM HDD's as in HDD's in Dell machines I can buy, but packaging? Can OEM in this instance be called bulk?
 

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Now has newegg been labling 'OEM' drives as 'BARE DRIVES' ?
 
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Now has newegg been labling 'OEM' drives as 'BARE DRIVES' ?
This is the question because a bare drive isn't necessarily an OEM drive but OEM drives are always bare drives.
Just because a drive comes in bulk (bare) packaging doesn't make it an OEM drive as you can clearly see on neweggs site
 

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Now has newegg been labling 'OEM' drives as 'BARE DRIVES' ?
Shouldn't really matter, OEM Packaging and Bare Drive has always meant the same thing if it is being sold to the end user. I doubt newegg is ripping these drives out of Dells and selling them...

Furthermore, why even let the end user register the drive and then claim it is in warranty if you aren't going to handle the warranty? With the old system, when you tried to register a drive from a pre-built it wouldn't even let you or it would register and then say no limited warranty.

Newsflash, Seagate has been doing this for years. I hope it was a mistake on the part of the WD support guy, or a channel issue with Newegg!!!

No they haven't. Seagate more than happily handles warranties on OEM drives. What they don't handle is drives from pre-built systems. But if the drive is OEM and sold to the end user, Seagate still handled the warranty. WD used to handle the warranty for OEM drives sold to the end user, but now it seems they don't...

Hello, @newtekie1 !

I'm very sorry to hear about this luckless situation that you've encountered, but our RMA policy about OEM drives has never been a secret.
I'd suggest you to take a look at this knowledge base article that explains in details about Retail & OEM drives and see for yourself: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=RqGgWW
This has been our policy since the beginning. Usually when we sell drives to an OEM, they purchase the HDDs along with all the warranty responsibilities, and this is why WD doesn't handle it.
I am going to PM you with some more questions, so that you give me more details about your WD Blue drive.
But unfortunately, it's a Friday and I'm not going to be able to provide you with further details until the beginning of next week.

I hope you'd bear with the me and the drive until then.
SuperSoph_WD

So you're confirming that drives bought by the end user off sites like Newegg that are labelled Bare/OEM, or anything not coming in retail packaging, have no warranty.

I suggest you start contacting these retailers than, because right now they all are claiming your drives have warranties when they don't.

Damn, I bet all those people that bought WD Black drives because they supposedly had a 5-year warranty are going to be mighty pissed off...
 
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This is the question because a bare drive isn't necessarily an OEM drive but OEM drives are always bare drives.
Just because a drive comes in bulk (bare) packaging doesn't make it an OEM drive as you can clearly see on neweggs site

OK, I am now officially confused!
 

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Shouldn't really matter, OEM Packaging and Bare Drive has always meant the same thing if it is being sold to the end user. I doubt newegg is ripping these drives out of Dells and selling them.
agree something is wrong here the drive I registered not 10M ago was a "bare drive" I bought in November`ish from newegg
 
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I've got a few things.

1. Thanks for calling this to our attention newtekie1.

2. Because I tend to buy only WD lately. Though I'm not so fond of their subsidiary company HGST.

3. I hate to brag, but I've never bought a new HDD that wasn't in retail packaging(or retailed as bare/non-OEM). Because I live close to a Frys, and know all too well the value of being able to return purchases in person(and because Frys doesn't sell OEM drives that I'm aware of). If you bought it at Frys, you just take it back and get another one, or get most of your money back(if not all)...on the spot! For those reasons specifically, a new HDD or new motherboard are the 2 things I would most likely never buy anywhere else. Since they prematurely fail the most, in my experience.

Sorry...had to do it.:nutkick:
 
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