What GPU would you recommend for a E8600 cpu?

[LabRat 891]

Oh yeah, I still hold old hardware grudges, even if other people think they are awesome

I've learned to be more mature about it, and try not to go around 'crapping' on people's current-day choices. (not making veiled accusations; I used to be even more annoying)

I do still make exceptions for when the company's been recently-involved in shenanigans. (like Gigabyte's PSUs; my bad experience was poor analog-out on a 7950GT, eventually ending in an invalidated warranty )

 

[Dr. Dro]

How is the L2 cache shared? the E8600 has 6M, the Q9550 has 12M

This is just for fun (and to learn), not to argue.

Sorry just saw this, it's 6 MB per die on Yorkfield-12M quads, since they're effectively 2 Wolfdale-6M dies in one CPU package. Communication in Core 2 Quad and Core 2 Extreme QX CPUs is done through the FSB as they do not have an advanced interconnect such as Infinity Fabric or HyperTransport to do the job, this further saturates available bandwidth which already is a commodity in that socket as pretty much all data goes through FSB (Core 2 doesn't have an integrated memory controller either, and still has a north bridge, so you get the picture).

The Quads with 6 MB L2 have 3 MB per die (so they're the same as the E7000 C2Ds) and the ones with 4 MB have 2 per die (similar to the corresponding Pentium Dual series).

IIRC, for games that just started using multi-threading, OC'd Wolfdales (6MB L2) were beating even C2Q Extreme Editions.

And this is why - Dual-cores on 775 were really the most "efficient" path, sort of like Ryzen 7 nowadays, which is immune to the dual-CCD designs' eventual bottlenecks.

 

[Greenslade]

This has not been my experience w/ G92 cards. I have purchased 5 or 6 G92 cards in the last couple years, and every one of them worked as well as the day they were new.

Admittedly, all but one are the last-revision die-shrunk G92 in GTS 250-form.
Though, even the BFGtech card (which, is the oldest) works flawlessly

It is like everything some of us last longer than others.thats life of course.That goes for everthing you buy.No Tull fans on here it seems.

does the cpu not have integrated?

Here in Canada, an RX6400 is about $20 cad more than a GT1030

I have been looking at the reviews of the 6400 and they have been saying it is way over priced for what it is.

 

[masterdeejay]

For optimal gaming/browsing: used Quadro M2000 (no power connector!) or GTX950
That is the lowest cost card that can accelerate youtube VP9 codec. Much better experience when browsing.
And there is also newest drivers, dx12 support ect. (but needs at least windows7 64 bit, so 3-4gb ram recommended)
With 4-8gb ram you can even use Windows11 (with some hacking)
SSD is highly recommended.

For the cheapest, anything you can find from trash.

For that cpu and that era games windows XP low 1Gb ram: 8800GT-9800GT

 

[Dan.G]

I'd get the GeForce 8600 GTS (if I could find one). They share the same name.

 

[mechtech]

It is like everything some of us last longer than others.thats life of course.That goes for everthing you buy.No Tull fans on here it seems.

I have been looking at the reviews of the 6400 and they have been saying it is way over priced for what it is.

Well that might be true but it’s double the ram and over double performance of gt1030.

 

[Greenslade]

I'd get the GeForce 8600 GTS (if I could find one). They share the same name.

I'd get the GeForce 8600 GTS (if I could find one). They share the same name.

Fanless Silent - MSI Nvi

dia 8600GTS 256mb Graphics Card - NX8600GTS-T2D256EZ-HD

on eBay £14,45 .it looks a cool card with that heatsink. Someone in Polandisselling it for £75 pluspostage

 

[eidairaman1]

does the cpu not have integrated?

Here in Canada, an RX6400 is about $20 cad more than a GT1030

And is a modern gpu

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

6400 at x4 paired with E8600, so what likely is PCI-E 2.0 though? Sounds like an awful idea to me...
I wouldn't be surprised if it actually UNDERperformed some of the older and theoretically much weaker cards there.

 

[R0H1T]

750Ti ~ anything more's probably not worth it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It is like everything some of us last longer than others.thats life of course.That goes for everthing you buy.No Tull fans on here it seems.

I have been looking at the reviews of the 6400 and they have been saying it is way over priced for what it is.

And is a modern gpu

With no Windows XP support. The Radeon RX6400 is great choice for modern small-form-factor PC's, but not as a GPU for a retroXP build.

 

[AleXXX666]

OC it as much as you can. A 750 Ti would be a killer for something like that

don't overestimate 750ti lol

 

[Greenslade]

With no Windows XP support. The Radeon RX6400 is great choice for modern small-form-factor PC's, but not as a GPU for a retroXP build.

I am there with you Lex pairing it with the E8600 is a mad idea.If i was going to get a new card for one of my newer builds i would get a 1650 super £85 at CEX.At present i have560 ti which would go with theE8600,A 960 2gb and1060 3gb.

6400 at x4 paired with E8600, so what likely is PCI-E 2.0 though? Sounds like an awful idea to me...
I wouldn't be surprised if it actually UNDERperformed some of the older and theoretically much weaker cards there.

It would be a very bad idea.

That's a very good point. A 750ti would use a lot less power.


That would be an excellent card and would never hold back that CPU. Since you've already got it, you're good to go!

I will have to test it first.. And get another stick of ddr2 2gb of Ram 50p at CEX,it is the other side of London. so don,t know when that will be.I can try it on my i5 750 board though.

 

[Dr. Dro]

6400 at x4 paired with E8600, so what likely is PCI-E 2.0 though? Sounds like an awful idea to me...
I wouldn't be surprised if it actually UNDERperformed some of the older and theoretically much weaker cards there.

Core 2 chipsets are usually PCIe Gen 1 unless P45/X48, some go as far back as AGP.

G31/G41 are Gen 1

 

[Greenslade]

Core 2 chipsets are usually PCIe Gen 1 unless P45/X48, some go as far back as AGP.

G31/G41 are Gen 1

Yes i did see this guy got one from a bootsale some time ago.

i can,t find the video of it though This guy is good

 

[masterdeejay]

Core 2 chipsets are usually PCIe Gen 1 unless P45/X48, some go as far back as AGP.

G31/G41 are Gen 1

There is few that supports Gen2:
B43, P43, x38, x48, P45, Q43

And for servers version of LGA775 (LGA771) i5100 supports 2.0 but it is forced to 1.1 because it was buggy.

 

[Dr. Dro]

There is few that supports Gen2:
B43, P43, x38, x48, P45, Q43

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And for servers version of LGA775 (LGA771) i5100 supports 2.0 but it is forced to 1.1 because it was buggy.

Yeah P45/X48 and derivatives. The P45 is actually the newest chipset iirc

 

[lexluthermiester]

Again, sorry for the late response, vaction.

At present i have560 ti which would go with theE8600,A 960 2gb and1060 3gb.

Each of those would be workable GPU for that dual core, but the 1060 3GB would be wasted on that system. Go with the 560ti you've got! It's a great card that is never going to hold back that CPU.

 

[aaa社保了啊]

950 960 770 1050ti Or most modern GPU [2013~2023] very low performance is fine ：D

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

With a legacy-BIOS: You'll be lucky for it to work correctly with the following, for the latest gen of cards, due to a legacy-BIOS compatibility issue:

Nvidia: GeForce GTX 980 series (suspected to be the latest that's compatible)

AMD: Radeon R9 series (suspected to be the latest that's compatible)

RX 580 is known to have a compatibility issue, indeed, unless the shroud of the XFX RX 580, was shorting a contact on the Asus P6T family of motherboards. (The BIOS code itself appears to be related to the BIOS that Asus' socket 775 motherboards use, especially AMI) (Just setup for a different platform in the case of Asus' socket 1366 motherboards)

The symptoms I had, do look like there's some conflict with legacy-BIOS, wouldn't be surprised if BIOS-memory-region-related. It made me regret pulling out my GeForce GTX 970!

 

[Dr. Dro]

With a legacy-BIOS: You'll be lucky for it to work correctly with the following, for the latest gen of cards, due to a legacy-BIOS compatibility issue:

Nvidia: GeForce GTX 980 series (suspected to be the latest that's compatible)

AMD: Radeon R9 series (suspected to be the latest that's compatible)

RX 580 is known to have a compatibility issue, indeed, unless the shroud of the XFX RX 580, was shorting a contact on the Asus P6T family of motherboards. (The BIOS code itself appears to be related to the BIOS that Asus' socket 775 motherboards use, especially AMI) (Just setup for a different platform in the case of Asus' socket 1366 motherboards)

The symptoms I had, do look like there's some conflict with legacy-BIOS, wouldn't be surprised if BIOS-memory-region-related.

Newer GPUs should work if their VBIOS implementation isn't botched, it's just the performance that isn't there. Assuming you got the E8600 running on a DDR3 system, the GTX 580 is as far as you're going to be running on it without leaving tons of perf on the table.

I need to purchase something with more kick than a x1 GT 710 for mine, though. It can't play 1080p video, and for a box that does only anime playback these days, it's rather vexing.

 

[Greenslade]

Newer GPUs should work if their VBIOS implementation isn't botched, it's just the performance that isn't there. Assuming you got the E8600 running on a DDR3 system, the GTX 580 is as far as you're going to be running on it without leaving tons of perf on the table.

I need to purchase something with more kick than a x1 GT 710 for mine, though. It can't play 1080p video, and for a box that does only anime playback these days, it's rather vexing.

unfortunately it is running on DDR 2.​

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[formula383]

unfortunately it is running on DDR 2.​

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This is not a bad thing! DDR2 on that platform did very well! i was able to run 1100mhz at some very aggressive timings with cheap kit of ddr2 i want to say it was a 2gb x 2 kit 4gb total. if memory serves it was 1100mhz at 5 5 5 latency.

But i think a better question is what is the goal? What if any budget do you have. What resolution monitor and what games are you looking to run on this system. What FPS are you targeting.

 

[Greenslade]

This is not a bad thing! DDR2 on that platform did very well! i was able to run 1100mhz at some very aggressive timings with cheap kit of ddr2 i want to say it was a 2gb x 2 kit 4gb total. if memory serves it was 1100mhz at 5 5 5 latency.

But i think a better question is what is the goal? What if any budget do you have. What resolution monitor and what games are you looking to run on this system. What FPS are you targeting.

First off well come to Techpowerup forums I did see a video by PhilsComputerLab DDR2 V DDR3

He,s one of our fav Retro you tubers

 

[Dr. Dro]

First off well come to Techpowerup forums I did see a video by PhilsComputerLab DDR2 V DDR3

He,s one of our fav Retro you tubers

It depends on the FSB speed but the E8600 is capable of 1333 and will overclock to 1600 easily on a board that can manage it (G31s and G41s cannot). I use mine with DDR3 7-7-7-19