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What phone you use as your daily driver? And, a discussion of them.

I hear you there. Not having a SD card slot is so a downer. I'm having a LG G4 as my Driver "Yes I should of gotten the V20 or V10" but G4 is what I had before so
 
Currently, a Samsung S21 5G. I do feel I would need a 3.5mm audio jack in the phone, this does not have.
 
I don't know what you are trying to convince me of, the iPhone 12 I have now is unequivocally faster than the S8 I had in everything I do.
It probably has more to do with OS itself rather than hardware and likely it's a placebo than actual difference.
 
It probably has more to do with OS itself rather than hardware and likely it's a placebo than actual difference.
The thing with Apple they Force uipdates to where those updates can make the previous phones like a crawl... Hence Slow
 
The thing with Apple they Force uipdates to where those updates can make the previous phones like a crawl... Hence Slow
That's like literally every OEM out there.
 
Because each company looks at the revenue of another company and then immediately looks at our pocket.
I don't understand why can't the user choose to update or not...
 
Motorola one 5G Ace.
It's decent and 5G is a noticeable speed increase.
I don't like that on this phone if you don't get 5G you only get 480p video...720p with 5G
The Motorola One 5G Ace that I briefly had much better 5G speeds (close to 100Mb/s) than my current Pixel 5a (seems to max around 50Mb/s).

It was a solid phone, though I ditched it because I was worried about official and third-party software support.
 
Galaxy S4. Got it free when re-newing my Verizon account about seven years ago. Works fine and see no need upgrade, yet. Only had to replace the battery once.
 
I have had iphone 6s in the past with the latest update on and never experienced any crawl. My partners phone is a iphone 7 plus which has ios 15.1 on it which is the latest and it is fine. the bonus with iphones is they test their new ios versions much better and as there are less phones for it to go on there are less problems. How many different Android phones are there? probably thousands. With Android, my advice is buy a google pixel as they usually get the new versions first, and as there is only one current pixel version at the time the updates will be guaranteed to work. Google IS Android, so may as well have a phone from the creator imo.

Also why do people need phones with 512gb or more on them? Don't forget you have to back it up and a half terabyte backup is stupidly big. What do you do with that much space? carry your whole music video and photo collection around? maybe it's just me that doesn't get it.
 
It probably has more to do with OS itself rather than hardware and likely it's a placebo than actual difference.

It has to do with the OS as well as the fact that the chipset is simply faster.
 
It has to do with the OS as well as the fact that the chipset is simply faster.
We are in times, when faster chipset means nothing for everyday usage. Seriously, haven't you seen that comparison of Samsung phones? At this point, software is the main bottleneck and that doesn't matter, as with nearly any new device, you won't have to wait ages until everything gets done on it. Gone are times of low tier device with single core 800MHz chips, 256 MB RAM, 512MB storage and Android 2.3. Gone are also times of early quad core chips, early UFS storage with 2GB of RAM. Phones today are reasonably well optimized, generally have overpowered hardware and what you see in terms of performance, may have more to do with choice of governor, I/O scheduler and some other kernel or OS tweaks. You can (and really should) adjust that in developer settings. There's really no point in buying entirely new phone just for everyday tasks and even more the one that costs as much as car (iPhone). You can do some things with adb (like get rid of bloat) and spend some time to root phone (if possible). I'm pretty sure that it's just settings and software config that slower than expected, rather than hardware.

Google IS Android, so may as well have a phone from the creator imo.
That's a common misconception. Google phones are not pure Android phones. Pure Android phones are the ones with AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROMs. They don't have any Google services, but they function just as Android phones. That's the most pure Android version that you can get (it's free of proprietary Google stuff), but you are right that creator of it is Google.

The problem with AOSP ROM is it's so pure, that it doesn't have Google Mobile Services. Is that a problem? It is. About 20-30% of apps are estimated to rely on them to function at all. Some other things like APIs (for mobile payments and such) are also missing. That's why most people, who use AOSP also flash GAPPS package. There are multiple packages each with different amount of stuff included. Smaller packages can have enough of things to make your phone usable, but Google phones usually have standard version preinstalled, which besides necessities, installs some extras, which you may or may not need. And pretty much that generous GAPPS package is the main defining feature of Google flavour of Android.

BTW it's not just Google which pumps out "pure" Android phones. Motorola and Nokia have been making phones like this for years now. Their update agility isn't as great, but if you like "pure" Android and want to save some cash, well they are interesting options. Higher end models could be seen as proper rivals for Pixels.


Also why do people need phones with 512gb or more on them? Don't forget you have to back it up and a half terabyte backup is stupidly big. What do you do with that much space? carry your whole music video and photo collection around? maybe it's just me that doesn't get it.
Here's the secret, people don't back up.
 
Well imo that is just stoopid, imagine loosing a phone or breaking it with all the stuff on it. imo 64gb is enough for a phone.
I only back up photos. Everything else on my phone are just apps and lots of random digital poo that I don't care about if I lose.
 
We are in times, when faster chipset means nothing for everyday usage.

That's entirely your opinion and it's completely wrong but you can continue believing it if you so desire.
 
I have 100gb of unused storage.
I had no idea I had that much storage.
 
That's entirely your opinion and it's completely wrong but you can continue believing it if you so desire.
It's not really wrong. If you want to argue about that, bring evidence.
 
That's entirely your opinion and it's completely wrong but you can continue believing it if you so desire.

I guess it comes down to the person's use case.
I'm also on the side of not needing flagship phones cause I just don't see the reason for my use case, it would be an utter waste of my money.

Recently upgraded to a Realme 8 4g 6/128 for ~230 $ and even this goes like barely half utilized by my needs if even that, my previous phone for almost 3 and half years was a Meizu M6 Note with a Snapdragon 625/3GB memory and 32Gg storage.
Sure I can see that my new phone is snappier when it comes to everyday/standard apps but everything I do I could also do on my Meizu all the same.
Its not a terrible experience by any means. 'stuff like watching YT, browsing internet in general, checking reviews on TPU and whatnot, messenger/discord with a few ppl to chat with'

Where I can clearly see the upgrade is the gaming performance ofc but I don't game that much on my phone nowadays, while its a nice extra its definitely not a main reason for me to upgrade.
Don't take too many photos either, I was already more or less fine with what my old phone could do and perfectly fine with the Realme + gcam instead of the factory software. 'factory took too vivid images for my taste'

To be completely honest if I wanted to I could still easily use that Meizu as my daily driver and not be bothered, I just wanted to buy something new and also cause the 32GB internal storage was getting problematic lately.:oops:

Unless something bad happens to this phone I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon, preferably not for the next 3-4 years and then buy one 200-300$ phone at most.
 
I agree that faster chipset means nothing for everyday usage. the phone manufacturers produce new phonees every year. They need us to buy them or they'd be screwed. Imagine if for one year not a single human bought a new samsung phone, they'd be pretty screwed. imo there is no need to buy new phones every year. Some older phones are still very much usable.
 
I guess it comes down to the person's use case.
I'm also on the side of not needing flagship phones cause I just don't see the reason for my use case, it would be an utter waste of my money.

Recently upgraded to a Realme 8 4g 6/128 for ~230 $ and even this goes like barely half utilized by my needs if even that, my previous phone for almost 3 and half years was a Meizu M6 Note with a Snapdragon 625/3GB memory and 32Gg storage.
My magical budget has been 300 Euros +- 30. I have used Galaxy Ace 2 from 2012 up to 2014, then got Note 3 Neo and used it until 2018 and now I have Galaxy A50. A50 will have to last minimum 2 more years, if not 4 more. I think that 6 year phone is doable, before experience starts to become poor and phone falls apart (more like wears out). I also use it caseless and did that for nearly 2 years. I don't really miss cases.

In recent years, there have been some interesting offers at 250 Euros, so maybe in future I will finally buy a device from slightly lower tier, but who knows? I still plan to use current phone for a long time, things may change and it's cheaper to just use what you already have.

Sure I can see that my new phone is snappier when it comes to everyday/standard apps but everything I do I could also do on my Meizu all the same.
Its not a terrible experience by any means. 'stuff like watching YT, browsing internet in general, checking reviews on TPU and whatnot, messenger/discord with a few ppl to chat with'
I have watched comparison videos and I really can't see a difference at that. I can see a difference between my own Note 3 Neo and A50, it's really significant, but between A50 or S21, nope. I can bet that my A50 might be a little bit faster as I messed with dev settings, adb and on software side it might be somewhat lighter.


Where I can clearly see the upgrade is the gaming performance ofc but I don't game that much on my phone nowadays, while its a nice extra its definitely not a main reason for me to upgrade.
I used to game a bit with Ace 2, but before initial cool factor of doing that on phone and better quality of games back then, somehow I don't see an appeal to game on tiny device like that anymore. I don't care about that anymore, but I'm pretty sure that I could run GTA SA well. PC is my main gaming platform and then comes X360, which I use for literally only one game - Forza Motorsport 3.

Don't take too many photos either, I was already more or less fine with what my old phone could do and perfectly fine with the Realme + gcam instead of the factory software. 'factory took too vivid images for my taste'
And that's where we differ greatly. I take a lot of photos and quality should be reasonable. A50 is somewhat disappointing, but serviceable, still a big downgrade from Note 3 Neo. Ultrawide is nice to have and is fun to use sometimes, unfortunately it's even more sucky than main cam, which is already not great.

To be completely honest if I wanted to I could still easily use that Meizu as my daily driver and not be bothered, I just wanted to buy something new and also cause the 32GB internal storage was getting problematic lately.:oops:

Unless something bad happens to this phone I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon, preferably not for the next 3-4 years and then buy one 200-300$ phone at most.
I have been looking at newer A52 and it looks way more luxurious than just midrange phone. Frankly, it rocks for the price, but on the other hand, I wished that lower end line up was more decent or A52 cheaper and more basic. And since middle class is now so good, I think that S21 just fails to have a reason to exist. It's a bit better, but not really much. And well S21 Ultra is straight up e-peen phone, along with Fold/Flip.

In terms of brands, I think that Samsung is best all around brand due to general quality, updates, political stability (I sure as hell don't want Huawei case to happen to me with GMS being wiped off my phone), pricing. I still don't like Chinese brands as they shit out decent phone, but anything beyond that is questionable, also UIs are a bit out there. Out of them Meizu, OnePlus, Motorola, Realme could be real considerations. Xiaomi is interesting, but it's too much like Huawei in terms of questionable political situation. Brands like Asus, Google ruined their own reputation with appalling Nexus 7 that I had (it was full of issues, clear lack of quality control and crappy updates. Nexus Devices were known for that, but maybe after rebranding to Pixel they have changed. Asus doesn't seem like it did). Sony is interesting, but their prices are awful. Nokia fell from grace due to flooding low end market, poor update policy and not having anything high end or much of mid range. It's literally like Google, but worse. So screw them and on top of that, their all phones feel ancient with zero things looking like progress. They completely ruined their Zeiss branding edge that they once had. Nokia is just depressing nowadays.
 
My magical budget has been 300 Euros +- 30. I have used Galaxy Ace 2 from 2012 up to 2014, then got Note 3 Neo and used it until 2018 and now I have Galaxy A50. A50 will have to last minimum 2 more years, if not 4 more. I think that 6 year phone is doable, before experience starts to become poor and phone falls apart (more like wears out). I also use it caseless and did that for nearly 2 years. I don't really miss cases.

In recent years, there have been some interesting offers at 250 Euros, so maybe in future I will finally buy a device from slightly lower tier, but who knows? I still plan to use current phone for a long time, things may change and it's cheaper to just use what you already have.


I have watched comparison videos and I really can't see a difference at that. I can see a difference between my own Note 3 Neo and A50, it's really significant, but between A50 or S21, nope. I can bet that my A50 might be a little bit faster as I messed with dev settings, adb and on software side it might be somewhat lighter.



I used to game a bit with Ace 2, but before initial cool factor of doing that on phone and better quality of games back then, somehow I don't see an appeal to game on tiny device like that anymore. I don't care about that anymore, but I'm pretty sure that I could run GTA SA well. PC is my main gaming platform and then comes X360, which I use for literally only one game - Forza Motorsport 3.


And that's where we differ greatly. I take a lot of photos and quality should be reasonable. A50 is somewhat disappointing, but serviceable, still a big downgrade from Note 3 Neo. Ultrawide is nice to have and is fun to use sometimes, unfortunately it's even more sucky than main cam, which is already not great.


I have been looking at newer A52 and it looks way more luxurious than just midrange phone. Frankly, it rocks for the price, but on the other hand, I wished that lower end line up was more decent or A52 cheaper and more basic. And since middle class is now so good, I think that S21 just fails to have a reason to exist. It's a bit better, but not really much. And well S21 Ultra is straight up e-peen phone, along with Fold/Flip.

In terms of brands, I think that Samsung is best all around brand due to general quality, updates, political stability (I sure as hell don't want Huawei case to happen to me with GMS being wiped off my phone), pricing. I still don't like Chinese brands as they shit out decent phone, but anything beyond that is questionable, also UIs are a bit out there. Out of them Meizu, OnePlus, Motorola, Realme could be real considerations. Xiaomi is interesting, but it's too much like Huawei in terms of questionable political situation. Brands like Asus, Google ruined their own reputation with appalling Nexus 7 that I had (it was full of issues, clear lack of quality control and crappy updates. Nexus Devices were known for that, but maybe after rebranding to Pixel they have changed. Asus doesn't seem like it did). Sony is interesting, but their prices are awful. Nokia fell from grace due to flooding low end market, poor update policy and not having anything high end or much of mid range. It's literally like Google, but worse. So screw them and on top of that, their all phones feel ancient with zero things looking like progress. They completely ruined their Zeiss branding edge that they once had. Nokia is just depressing nowadays.

My max budget was around 230 Euro/270 $ this time around and I was eyeballing the Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro and I read/checked reviews for a week + asked on 2 different forums but in the end I decided not to go for it. 'thanks again for the peeps who offered help on this forum in case I buy it:)'

It just sounded too risky with the already known possible issues like the ghost touch screen, and considering I'm buying a phone for years '3-4 or so' I didn't want to risk that.
After that in this price range I ended up with this Realme, its nothing special but it ticks everything I need and now I really wonder what would I even do with that extra performance of the X3, probably nothing. :laugh:

Samsung is grossly overpriced imo, at least where I live not sure about other places. 'this goes for any Samsung product really, I used to be a Samsung user at one time but not anymore with their pricing/brand tax'
Even those newer A models are way out of my range so I ditched Samsung entirely off my list.

I'm pretty much a person who stays mainly at home so not much to take pictures of, even then I take very casual photos which I only share with friends/family so eh not that important to me. 'I don't do social media share or any of that'
At most I take some simple nature related photos when I do happen to go outside or photos of our/grandparent's cats.

So far I have no issues with this Realme, I have the global/EU version and I'm yet to run into any random pop up or weird behaviour.
It was the same with my Meizu, had no annoying Asian bloatware on it that I know of or noticed anything after 3+ years of use.
 
Evidence that some phones are faster than others ?

Lol what ?
Well, duh, yes. The evidence that faster chipset actually translates into real life gains at everyday tasks. I showed you some that it doesn't, you argue that it does. Bring evidence or accept that it doesn't make a difference.

Samsung is grossly overpriced imo, at least where I live not sure about other places. 'this goes for any Samsung product really, I used to be a Samsung user at one time but not anymore with their pricing/brand tax'
Even those newer A models are way out of my range so I ditched Samsung entirely off my list.
Eh, could be. I noticed that Samsung has two phases. One is overpriced overadvertised stage, when they make Ace 2, og A series, Alpha and then great value, zero or little initial advertising, then they make Axx sereis, Note x Neo series. Samsung may have its faults in price, but as I mentioned, they seem to be very dependable and their UI is neutral. In the past, Samsung was the king of software, their Touchwiz interface was lightyears ahead of everything else. They put some things in it, which became common years later. I could multitask with side by side windows in 2014, no other brand had that. Also many other bits. I think that Samsung gradually lost that edge and toned down their own UI to be lighter, closer to stock, while remaining distinctly Samsung. And that's not really great. I'm not sure about that, but it may seem that Chinse became innovators of UI. We will see how that will play out. Right now, only A52 and S20 FE are decent value phones from them. Lower end ones are overpriced, higher end ones don't offer enough to justify their price and fail to decisively slam dunk on competition.


So far I have no issues with this Realme, I have the global/EU version and I'm yet to run into any random pop up or weird behaviour.
It was the same with my Meizu, had no annoying Asian bloatware on it that I know of or noticed anything after 3+ years of use.
What about ads in UI, DRM support, camera processing and updates?
 
Well, duh, yes.
Man, you really should send an email to Qualcomm or Apple, those idiots keep making new chipsets every year, they could've saved billions of dollars.

Thanks for enlightening me, on my way to throw my phone in the trash can and buy a 150$ one because it makes no difference.
 
Man, you really should send an email to Qualcomm or Apple, those idiots keep making new chipsets every year, they could've saved billions of dollars.

Thanks for enlightening me, on my way to throw my phone in the trash can and buy a 150$ one because it makes no difference.
They make a difference for games or some rare very intensive tasks, but not everyday usage.
 
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