What was your AM4 experience?

[Cowboystrekk]

I have had my 12700k since launch with ZERO problems at all.



TPU is blatantly AMD centric now, with daily Intel bashing with the same broken record of uses tons of power, runs mega hot blah blah blah. All i see are Intel users defending against all this crap.

I think TPU is quite balanced. They praised Alder lake, and except for 5800X3D nothing from AMD can compete with 12600K and up. Generally some AMD chips run hotter, especially 5800X(3D).

I have a 12400F and it needed 5 bios updates to become stable using tweaked ram in gear 1, my 5600X was 100% stable from day one. 12400F runs a bit cooler though.

As for budget options buying a 12100F or 12400F and a Asrock B660 Riptide and do a bclk OC to 4.8-5.2GHz you have the ultimate budget champ

 

[sepheronx]

Had a Ryzen 5800 (non x) in an alienware build I got just for the rtx 3080 at the time.

The 5800 is a damn solid cpu. Used it though to upgrade my friend from a 3600 as I'm now selling parts from the alienware (the motherboard is lousy imo).

Played with a couple of friends am4 systems and enjoyed them. Bios update on them was easy and never really had issues. Both were X570 motherboards mind you, I don't have much experience with the other ones.

 

[trparky]

Even with a 3080, the 5600 is really, really high up in the performance charts - at any higher res or any weaker of a GPU, why spend more?

True, however, AM4 is basically at its end of the line. That puts you into a sort of an impossible situation, you've essentially killed off any possibility of future proofing your build. At least if you go with AM5, you have the option to go and upgrade again in two or three years with a simple drop-in replacement of the processor much like I did with my father's system where I replaced his 2600X with a 5600X and saw a 40% boost in performance.

Myself, I'm with an 8700K that's showing signs of being long in the tooth. The really stupid part is that I have a notebook that I just bought that has an Intel 12th-Gen Mobile CPU in it and it's positively beating the snot out of my 8700K at some tasks. I have to admit that when I saw that happening, I had a real WTF moment. I'm not talking games here because the notebook isn't built for gaming but we're talking just basic jobs like opening up office, boot speeds, data compression speeds, program load times, etc. The 12th-Gen Mobile Intel CPU is beating the snot out of my 8700K in that regard.

In my case, I can't help but want to go with AM5 because I plan to keep this build long term.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Lots of issues initially with both my Ryzen 7 1700 and Ryzen 7 3800X.
Mostly AGESA/UEFI related, but the good old Corsair LPX modules never worked as intended.
No issues with the Ryzen 7 5800X in the same board as the 3800X, but that was largely because all the issues were fixed after about six months of the X570 platform launch.

 

[trparky]

I also had memory config issues with my father's Ryzen 2600X system. I had to manually down-clock them to gain system stability and by that, I mean get the system to even boot. The 5600X was a breeze; drop it in, enable DOCP/XMP and off to the races I went.

 

[Naito]

An old colleague of mine had the company purchase a 5900X system for his development work just after it was released. Was thrashed every day with SQL, Redis, Docker, VMs, and various IDEs and never skipped a beat. This thing was never turned off or restarted throughout its entire tenure. Once he left the company, he was able to keep the machine. It is now running Unraid running with virtual machines, etc

 

[Ruru]

Got a MSI X470 Gaming Plus + R5 2600 first, no problems except the board broke as I had a leak in my custom loop. Got an Asus TUF B450 Gaming Plus and got the system running again. Again, no problems.

Then I sold that bundle, got a MSI B450M Mortar MAX + R5 3600, a great bundle but I started to have problems with the board. Replaced it with a Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite and have been running with these for the last 1½ years. I had crappy 4x4 2400 @ 2666 RAM first, upgrading to 2x16 3200 @ 3466 gave a nice boost. Still going to stick with AM4, I'll just get a 5700X sooner or later.

 

[Kapone33]

An old colleague of mine had the company purchase a 5900X system for his development work just after it was released. Was thrashed every day with SQL, Redis, Docker, VMs, and various IDEs and never skipped a beat. This thing was never turned off or restarted throughout its entire tenure. Once he left the company, he was able to keep the machine. It is now running Unraid running with virtual machines, etc

The 5900X in my opinion is the most enjoyable AM4 CPU.

 

[K4sum1]

The 5900X in my opinion is the most enjoyable AM4 CPU.

I would avoid the 5900X myself, since the bins are kinda terrible on it. The 5950X uses less power and clocks higher, while also having 4 more cores.

 

[Ruru]

I would avoid the 5900X myself, since the bins are kinda terrible on it. The 5950X uses less power and clocks higher, while also having 4 more cores.

And it's ~150EUR more expensive..

 

[freeagent]

I would avoid the 5900X myself, since the bins are kinda terrible on it. The 5950X uses less power and clocks higher, while also having 4 more cores.

Depends on who’s operating it.

 

[Mussels]

True, however, AM4 is basically at its end of the line. That puts you into a sort of an impossible situation, you've essentially killed off any possibility of future proofing your build. At least if you go with AM5, you have the option to go and upgrade again in two or three years with a simple drop-in replacement of the processor much like I did with my father's system where I replaced his 2600X with a 5600X and saw a 40% boost in performance.

Myself, I'm with an 8700K that's showing signs of being long in the tooth. The really stupid part is that I have a notebook that I just bought that has an Intel 12th-Gen Mobile CPU in it and it's positively beating the snot out of my 8700K at some tasks. I have to admit that when I saw that happening, I had a real WTF moment. I'm not talking games here because the notebook isn't built for gaming but we're talking just basic jobs like opening up office, boot speeds, data compression speeds, program load times, etc. The 12th-Gen Mobile Intel CPU is beating the snot out of my 8700K in that regard.

In my case, I can't help but want to go with AM5 because I plan to keep this build long term.

Except it's not, AMD have said it's got years more support and new CPU's coming

Even if just one generation remains, that puts it on par with how intel do things

 

[Mikael Andersson]

Overall disappointed with tons of issues that appeared with every generation over and over again.


Zen +:
2700X a bit degraded after two years at 1.42V sold to a friend (still in use)

You should never go above 1.36V so no wonder that your CPU degraded over time even if it took a couple of years.
And personally I'm staying below 1.3V but that's because my CPU is eleven years old.

 

[wheresmycar]

Except it's not, AMD have said it's got years more support and new CPU's coming

In the naming scheme of things, seeing AMD skipped 6000-series (desktop) for 7000 on AM5... is it possible 6000 was left for yet another forward Gen release on AM4? I'm assuming there's no mention from AMD in an official capacity as to what the AM4 forward support entails?

 

[Tropick]

Got to the party late, 5600X/AORUS B550 Elite V2/DDR4-3600. Only issue I've ever had with the system is a buggy BIOS from Gigabyte that was easily remedied by rolling back to the previous version.

It sounds like early adopters bore the brunt of the issues with AM4 while those getting in on Zen3/500 series chipset had a pretty smooth ride overall.

Needless to say I'm running my AM4 system until it's wheels fall off. When Zen3/RDNA2 prices fall off a cliff I'm planning on eventually upgrading to a 5800X3D, 6950XT and PCIe 4.0 NVMe and using that for as long as possible.

 

[trparky]

Except it's not, AMD have said it's got years more support and new CPU's coming

Where? I've not read anything that's concrete on that subject so I'd have to assume that no, that's not the case.

 

[Mussels]

Where? I've not read anything that's concrete on that subject so I'd have to assume that no, that's not the case.

theres a confirmed line of ryzen PRO CPU's, so we have at least that

Even if theres no new models, there's ongoing production and sales still - which means basic support continues

 

[SpittinFax]

theres a confirmed line of ryzen PRO CPU's, so we have at least that

Even if theres no new models, there's ongoing production and sales still - which means basic support continues

Hopefully there's a serious Zen 3 quad core released as a successor to the 3300X. The Ryzen 3 4100 may as well have been AMD's April Fools joke.

 

[Mussels]

Hopefully there's a serious Zen 3 quad core released as a successor to the 3300X. The Ryzen 3 4100 may as well have been AMD's April Fools joke.

If yields are good, the 5600 is that level of CPU now
Zen3 is only made as 8 core CPU's, so if the cores are coming out intact you'd get 6 or 8 core CPU's cheap, instead of 4 core models

 

[Zach_01]

ΑΜ4 platform had almost 4years support (Zen1 >> Zen3) and a life cycle of 5.5+y. Even if no new CPU is coming, the socket's support was/is great. Cant change this.
Who ever has a 5000series CPU can skip AM5 entirely and go for AM6.
Too few users "must" upgrade to AM5.
99% of 5000series users will be fine for the next 3~5years with just upgrading 1~2 GPU(s) depending on where they stand now. Even those with 6c/12t.

 

[Ruru]

ΑΜ4 platform had almost 4years support (Zen1 >> Zen3) and a life cycle of 5.5+y. Even if no new CPU is coming, the socket's support was/is great. Cant change this.
Who ever has a 5000series CPU can skip AM5 entirely and go for AM6.
Too few users "must" upgrade to AM5.
99% of 5000series users will be fine for the next 3~5years with just upgrading 1~2 GPU(s) depending on where they stand now. Even those with 6c/12t.

Agree with 3600

 

[trparky]

But if you're upgrading now or in a few months, why not go for broke and get Ryzen 7000 and not back yourself into a corner?

 

[freeagent]

I personally don't find AM5 to be very enticing right now. Boards are expensive, CPUs might be a bit expensive, Ram could be expensive... and for what? A 15-20% bump? And since it will be using moar power, it will cost more to run too as well as be harder to cool? Gotta wait for reviews and such to drop to draw a final conclusion I suppose but right now just not feeling it. I want to see what Intel can do too.

 

[P4-630]

I want to see what Intel can do too.

The only downside for intel now is that it's the last socket 1700 platform.

I bought Z690 , which I can upgrade with a Raptor Lake CPU as last upgrade, but I don't mind much since for me it's enough power to last at least 5~6 years.

 

[freeagent]

but I don't mind much since for me it's enough power to last at least 5~6 years.

That’s about how I feel about mine, well.. it feels like it’s ok for another year or two..