What would you buy?

[theouto]

Terrible choice. More and more games will use advanced DX12U features like Mesh Shading, which the 5700XT does not support. You're better off buying a RX 6600 for 20 dollars more.

After looking at this graph, knowing that mesh shaders are important, the 7600 is the one to be

 

[azrael]

yes I agree with you, if you have an original gsync module monitor you should 100% rock nvidia.

Well, to be brutally honest, I'd very much love not to be locked in this way. Next monitor I buy will definitely not be a "GSync-only" model (if that's still a thing at the time). I also don't mind using Radeon graphics cards. I've done so in the past without many problems. About as many as with nVidia cards. Perhaps I've just been lucky.

 

[QUANTUMPHYSICS]

I want the newest and bestest.

I already have a 4090, up from a 3090.

But if I needed a budget GPU, I'd take the 4060.

 

[faye]

I am doing this w/ Vega.
I pined after a Vega 64 since they first came out; I even was there for the reddit AMD AMAs.

'While-back, I got a decent deal on a Vega 64 8GB from a friend, to upgrade away from my Polaris card(s).
Soon-after, I ended up stumbling upon the Radeon Instinct MI25->Radeon Pro WX 9100 cross-flashing, and now I have 2x, w/ more on the way.
Why? 16GB of Samsung HBM2 and full-fat Vega 10.

Tweaked w/ 3rd Party Drivers and OverDriveNtool,
they're basically $50-70 DIY Vega FEs (w/ a single mDP-out)

As you can see,
I kinda have an unhealthy adoration for Vega (and HBM) GPUs

Haven't seen any for less than $100, guess the secret is out. I have no real use for it, but if I saw one for $50-60 I'd probably grab it just to play with.

Well, to be brutally honest, I'd very much love not to be locked in this way. Next monitor I buy will definitely not be a "GSync-only" model (if that's still a thing at the time). I also don't mind using Radeon graphics cards. I've done so in the past without many problems. About as many as with nVidia cards. Perhaps I've just been lucky.

Practically every monitor (that you would want) currently on the market supports Freesync, so you don't have much to worry about there. Nvidia was even forced to drop their requirements for G-Sync. Sadly the software only version doesn't work nearly as well, but it's better than nothing.

 

[Space Lynx]

Haven't seen any for less than $100, guess the secret is out. I have no real use for it, but if I saw one for $50-60 I'd probably grab it just to play with.


Practically every monitor (that you would want) currently on the market supports Freesync, so you don't have much to worry about there. Nvidia was even forced to drop their requirements for G-Sync. Sadly the software only version doesn't work nearly as well, but it's better than nothing.

just a side note, ultra high end monitors and tv's still have legit physical Gsync Modules in them, the higher end Alienware OLED 34" has it, LG C2 and C3 OLED tv's have an actual gsync module as well I believe. I know there are more, its called Gsync Ultimate now.

RTX 4090 and Gysnc Ultimate monitor would be the way I would game if I was super rich, but meh

 

[lexluthermiester]

Terrible choice. More and more games will use advanced DX12U features like Mesh Shading, which the 5700XT does not support. You're better off buying a RX 6600 for 20 dollars more.

Remember, that test was done at "Max Settings". Turn down some settings, or even drop to 720p and all is well.

 

[evernessince]

My vote goes to RTX 4060 simply because of DLSS and Frame Gen being superior pretty much across the board in every game. That really gives the RTX 4060 a lot of longevity and much needed extra oomph for 1080p high refresh gamers.

I am considering selling my 7900 XT when RTX 4080 Ti comes out, as much as I love AMD they will just never be able to compete with DLSS and Frame Gen tech.

I hate that the industry is moving in this direction, but it is what it is.



I think this vote is more aimed at new builders of 1080p resolution usage, at least I would assume.

The 4060 is an 8GB card. DLSS and FG do not get around VRAM issues so there's no additional longevity to be had. As HWUB put it, Nvidia's exclusive features are really only compelling on the high end cards.

Seems there are a lot of people willing to spend extra just for the brand name.

Practically every monitor (that you would want) currently on the market supports Freesync, so you don't have much to worry about there. Nvidia was even forced to drop their requirements for G-Sync. Sadly the software only version doesn't work nearly as well, but it's better than nothing.

Thankfully I might add. As if we needed another proprietary technology Nvidia can use to more vertically integrate it's monopoly.

is the amount of VRAM as important at 1080P and 1440P as it is at 4k resolution?

Resolution matters very little, typically there's only a 1GB difference between 4K and 1080p in most games.

 

[faye]

Resolution matters very little, typically there's only a 1GB difference between 4K and 1080p in most games.

It can make a far bigger difference than that, depending on the title.

 

[evernessince]

It can make a far bigger difference than that, depending on the title.

Out of 12 of the last games TPU reviewed, only 3 of them are significantly above that 1GB threshold when jumping between 1080p and 4K. 1 of those is not over by much and the other 2 are with RT / PT.

"It can make a bigger difference than that" would be correct but a "far" bigger difference? Not in the vast majority of cases.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

Well, lowest price in the poll is $150. If RTX 4060 was selling brand new on this price I'll will choose in because low power consumption.

 

[b1k3rdude]

I dont have an issue with the card, I have an issue with the price. nVidia want people to forget that the 4060 is a 50 series card and as such should be under $200 from launch. Do not forget nvidia has pulled this tier upselling sh*t several times before, with the 4000 series being the most egregious.

So some of the prices on this poll were only valid for a short period, the 4060 is now $290. For less money You can get a 3060_12gb that matches or in some cases due to the 192bit memory bus and extra vram is faster for $279- https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=RTX+3060+12GB&Order=1

For for the same money can get a 6700 (nonXT) that will murder the 3060/4060 across the board - https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6700-rx-67xlkwfdv/p/N82E16814150874?Item=9SIAD2CJUE7407

 

[lexluthermiester]

For for the same money can get a 6700 (nonXT) that will murder the 3060/4060 across the board

"Murder"?!? That is objectively incorrect. The benchmarks say otherwise.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Remember, that test was done at "Max Settings". Turn down some settings, or even drop to 720p and all is well.

If you have to drop to Xbox 360 resolution, its time for a GPU upgrade. And at 720p, with turned down settings, the 6600xt would STILL be significantly faster then the 5700xt in anything with mesh shaders, and that tech isnt going away.

Just like with hardware T+L, or DX11, compatibility demands progress. The 5700xt was outdated at launch, we all knew it, some accepted it. Now its age is showing. I cant imagine dumping money on an 8GB card without mesh shaders, unless all you do is e sports.

 

[Vayra86]

I never said it was spectacular but with a Freesync monitor would you feel the difference between 50 FPS and 90?

Yeah, with a 320x240 CRT, would you feel the difference with 1080p?

Minesweeper was never this fast!

Come on man ... Perf is perf, and shit perf is shit perf. Next you're gonna say the 20 FPS could use some frame generation so it then becomes great.

Similar considerations apply to the 4060. At 280,- you have a GPU that just can't run a lot proper even at 1080p. That's instant disqualification at that price point, no amount of FG, dropping to 720p, low quality texture or whatever other BS is going to change that reality... All that really is, is a thing called 'coping mechanisms', and when there are alternatives at lower price that can do the same or more, its just plain idiotic.

I totally get this tier of GPU is the 'compromise' tier, but here more than anywhere else is the actual hardware of importance, more simply being better. Featureset? It doesn't even really come into play, except for an upscale which all cards can do.

 

[lexluthermiester]

If you have to drop to Xbox 360 resolution, its time for a GPU upgrade.

Unless you can't afford one. Then you have to make do. Remember, the world is a varied place. Not everyone exists in the same economic situation. And when that happens, it's up to us power users and "experts" to help them have a good experience, or at least as good as they can get. It's not our place to judge where others are at, nor look down our nose at those who are not in the same place we are.

 

[b1k3rdude]

"Murder"?!? That is objectively incorrect. The benchmarks say otherwise.

Fair comment. Let me amend that then to "it will beat the 4060 in the vast majority of games and 'will murder it' in vram limited games".

And on a related subject, the price of the 4070 is now not far off what the 4060 ti costs, renforcing my opinion on the pricing of the 60 series cards.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Let me amend that then to "it will beat the 4060 in the vast majority of games and 'will murder it' in vram limited games".

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