What would you install on it?

ThrashZone · Dec 14, 2020

QuietBob said:
It sure can. I for one didn't know about the cumulative update you mentioned, thanks for pointing it out. Always good to have alternatives. Also, I'll look into that ESU patch.

Do let us know how it goes. I'm a bit surprised that your AGP card installed without an issue.

If it's meant for everyday use, I'd totally agree. Anything less might feel uncomfortable to work on. But old hardware can be fun to experiment with

Hi,
Yeah let me know how it goes
I think I peeked at it once and blew it off thinking who cares it's ms eol updates vacation time finally lol

Devon68 · Dec 19, 2020

This little adventure had gone way down to the point that it would not even post. After leaving it to a few days I tried it again yesterday and managed to boot linux mint from a usb. After that tried to install windows 7 on it but it just would not accept my key. Tried some different keys from the internet but it di not help. It kept giving me error code 0x80072f8f. I tried a couple of fixes as suggested to change the time/date but it just wont accept the code. tried entering the key via taskbar. I decided to let it be since I have reached the end of my nerves. I might try it again next year. thanks for all your inputs.

ThrashZone · Dec 19, 2020

Devon68 said:
This little adventure had gone way down to the point that it would not even post. After leaving it to a few days I tried it again yesterday and managed to boot linux mint from a usb. After that tried to install windows 7 on it but it just would not accept my key. Tried some different keys from the internet but it di not help. It kept giving me error code 0x80072f8f. I tried a couple of fixes as suggested to change the time/date but it just wont accept the code. tried entering the key via taskbar. I decided to let it be since I have reached the end of my nerves. I might try it again next year. thanks for all your inputs.

Hi,
Most key errors are typos if valid keys
Too many entries will also lock the key until you use phone activation and maybe have to talk to ms support.
Sometimes it's easiest ot go to ebay buy a key that is warrantied to activate for 20.us

Komshija · Dec 19, 2020

Windows 7 is fine. It doesn't matter if you don't get the latest updates from Microsoft. Good antivirus software will solve the security problem.

Rei · Dec 19, 2020

Devon68 said:
This little adventure had gone way down to the point that it would not even post. After leaving it to a few days I tried it again yesterday and managed to boot linux mint from a usb. After that tried to install windows 7 on it but it just would not accept my key. Tried some different keys from the internet but it di not help. It kept giving me error code 0x80072f8f. I tried a couple of fixes as suggested to change the time/date but it just wont accept the code. tried entering the key via taskbar. I decided to let it be since I have reached the end of my nerves. I might try it again next year. thanks for all your inputs.

At this point, might as well use WinXP instead of going through all this rigmarole. Or take it to a local computer repair shop & let them go through the trouble of trying to install Win7 so you don't have to.

Devon68 · Dec 24, 2020

At this point, might as well use WinXP instead of going through all this rigmarole.

After failing to install windows 7 I did try going back to XP (Last XP) to be precise. But it seemed to be very sluggish and slow for some reason.
After un-successfully trying to install windows 7, tried other alternatives like Xubuntu but it did not look nor feel great.

After I had a few days to cool off. I got back at it trying everything I could think of to install windows 7 but it would not recognize any of my USB sticks. Played around in the Bios and call it dumb luck but somehow it started to recognize my windows 7 DVD and eventually let me install it. After installing it tried to enter my Win 7 key but it just would not accept it. I got that key from my school when we had a sponsorship with the MSDNAA program so I know it's legit, but it just did not want to work. So I searched the internet high and low but no key I found was accepted. Luckily my sisters husband had some win 7 loader that patched it and made it genuine and he even gave me an older version of Firefox that seems to be working better than anything I tried installing on it.
I tried chrome before but:

Tried even a newer Firefox but it was a no go:

As suggested by others I tried some less known browsers like pale moon but it did not want to work. In hindsight I maybe should have searched for an older version.

I even tried a bunch of different browsers that were recommended like Seamonkey, K-Melon, Midori, Maxthon 5, Lunascape but none of them worked or even wanted to install in the first place.
So now I'm back to square one. Windows 7 is installed and activated. Firefox is working pretty good. The graphics driver is a bit older since I could not find the one I had previously installed.
If I could complain, it would be that windows wont update at all, but at least it's working and I can play the game I wanted.

FreedomEclipse · Dec 25, 2020

If it was a vista machine id say install L4D on it.

Devon68 · Dec 25, 2020

If it was a vista machine id say install L4D on it.

It used to run on it, but just barely with everything on low

Jetster · Dec 25, 2020

I just installed XP on a Athlon 64 and its runs Crysis just fine.
W2000 should work fine too

I tried W7, ran like crap very slow. Not to mention all the driver problems to work around

Rei · Dec 25, 2020

Devon68 said:
After failing to install windows 7 I did try going back to XP (Last XP) to be precise. But it seemed to be very sluggish and slow for some reason.
After un-successfully trying to install windows 7, tried other alternatives like Xubuntu but it did not look nor feel great.
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After I had a few days to cool off. I got back at it trying everything I could think of to install windows 7 but it would not recognize any of my USB sticks. Played around in the Bios and call it dumb luck but somehow it started to recognize my windows 7 DVD and eventually let me install it. After installing it tried to enter my Win 7 key but it just would not accept it. I got that key from my school when we had a sponsorship with the MSDNAA program so I know it's legit, but it just did not want to work. So I searched the internet high and low but no key I found was accepted. Luckily my sisters husband had some win 7 loader that patched it and made it genuine and he even gave me an older version of Firefox that seems to be working better than anything I tried installing on it.
I tried chrome before but:
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Tried even a newer Firefox but it was a no go:
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As suggested by others I tried some less known browsers like pale moon but it did not want to work. In hindsight I maybe should have searched for an older version.
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I even tried a bunch of different browsers that were recommended like Seamonkey, K-Melon, Midori, Maxthon 5, Lunascape but none of them worked or even wanted to install in the first place.
So now I'm back to square one. Windows 7 is installed and activated. Firefox is working pretty good. The graphics driver is a bit older since I could not find the one I had previously installed.
If I could complain, it would be that windows wont update at all, but at least it's working and I can play the game I wanted.
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Schera · Jan 6, 2021

Hello Devon,

I also installed Windows 7 on my old Athlon XP3000. And i learned very much about non-SSe2 CPU's and it took many hours.
1.) If you install KB4474419 your Windows can not boot anymore.
In this case you can go back to the last restore-point (start with install-CD->repair)
Microsoft says: Do not install on a CPU without SSe2.
At the end there are a few Updates, that fails . But only KB4474419 kills installation.
2.) You can use older Version of Firefox. I have installed V48.0.2 (Last Version without SSE2)
3.) I have installed Panda free Antivirus V20. This is the newest Version. For now, i did not found any other Antivirus than does not require SSE2.
4.) VLC V2.1.3 ist running without SSE2. newer versions do not want to install.
5.) If you CPU runs more than 1900MHz you will get problems with Radeon Driver. I use V10.2 on my ATI 9500 Pro. I had to patch it for not to use SSE2 code.
6.) I was not able to get Windows defender or Microsoft Security Essentials running. I think for this, the newest Updates (which can not be installed) are neccessary.

I hope, you have fun with my English.

nuggdoctor · Jan 6, 2021

Ild run linux ubuntu for the o.s. its so lightweight that it was runnable on the ps3. And even though its low powered it should run all the classic emulators like the nes, snes, genesis etc with no problem.

Schera · Jan 6, 2021

Devon68 · Jan 7, 2021

@Schera
I will try installing those updates as soon as I buy a usb stick so that I can make a backup just in case things go sideways. Probably next week.

Schera · Jan 7, 2021

I have now 3 games running (Athlon XP3000, Windows 7 32bit and ATI 9500 Pro)
GTA4 Vice City
Need for Speed 5 Porsche. 60-80 FPS at 1024*768
Test Drive Unlimited 15-20 FPS at 800*600

nuggdoctor · Jan 7, 2021

need for speed most wanted, league of legends, all old school emulated games, diablo 1 for sure, possibly diablo 2, can all be ran on that rig.

QuietBob · Jan 7, 2021

Schera said:
I also installed Windows 7 on my old Athlon XP3000. And i learned very much about non-SSe2 CPU's and it took many hours.

Thanks for sharing these detailed findings! You're right about Defender and MSE, they require the KB4474419 SHA-2 update. Your system still turned out faster than my Win7 64-bit min spec build :laugh:

Care to throw some benchmarks at it?

Schera · Jan 13, 2021

Which Benchmarks ?
I have tried to get out best possible.
I wanted to see, if Office work is possible on this system.
I have installed a Sata Controller an a SSD.
Today i found something about an Omega Driver, which can change my ATI9500 to a 9700.
I will test this soon.

Devon68 · Jan 13, 2021

Schera said:
I have installed a Sata Controller an a SSD.

How are the speeds? Is it worth investing in a sata card.?

ThrashZone · Jan 13, 2021

Schera said:
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Hi,
Core voltage is whack 1.712v :rockout:

Solid State Soul ( SSS ) · Jan 13, 2021

The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay

This game was a PC gaming benchmark back in 2004

QuietBob · Jan 14, 2021

Schera said:
Which Benchmarks ?

AIDA, Passmark, CPU-Z please? I'd like to compare your rig with mine.

ThrashZone · Jan 14, 2021

Hi,
AIDA is a joke of a benchmark only really good for memory latency and might not even be good for that.

Performance test 9 is best at least worth running for a whole system evaluation in one shot.

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Processor	9940x with optimus sigV2 & 10900k with optimus foundation & Q9550 with EK Evo
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Cooling	D5 combo/280 GTX/ VRM water block copper/280 GTX/ D5 Top/Optimus sigV2/TitanXp/Mora 360x2
Memory	Trident-Z 3600C16 4x8gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 2x8gb & 4x2gb crucial
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Case	D450 second floor for 2nd rad x2/ Cherry Entertainment center
Audio Device(s)	Built in Realtek x2
Power Supply	evga 1200P2 & 1000P2 & 850P2 with APC AX1500 & CyberPower-1325va
Mouse	Redragon Perdition x3
Keyboard	G910 & G710+x2
Software	Win-7 pro x3 and Linux Cinnamon 20x2 & win-10 pro x3

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Processor	AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz
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Cooling	Cooler master hyper 212 EVO
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Display(s)	LG W2453SQ-PF
Case	MS Cyclops IV
Power Supply	LC Power LC600H-12 600 W
Software	Windows 10 64bit

System Name	Ghetto Rigs x299 & z490 & Q9550 Old timer
Processor	9940x with optimus sigV2 & 10900k with optimus foundation & Q9550 with EK Evo
Motherboard	X299 Rampage VI Apex & z490 Maximus XII Apex & Acer WG43M
Cooling	D5 combo/280 GTX/ VRM water block copper/280 GTX/ D5 Top/Optimus sigV2/TitanXp/Mora 360x2
Memory	Trident-Z 3600C16 4x8gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 2x8gb & 4x2gb crucial
Video Card(s)	Titan Xp & 1080ti ftw3 & evga 980ti
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Display(s)	1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case	D450 second floor for 2nd rad x2/ Cherry Entertainment center
Audio Device(s)	Built in Realtek x2
Power Supply	evga 1200P2 & 1000P2 & 850P2 with APC AX1500 & CyberPower-1325va
Mouse	Redragon Perdition x3
Keyboard	G910 & G710+x2
Software	Win-7 pro x3 and Linux Cinnamon 20x2 & win-10 pro x3

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Processor	Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard	MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X
Cooling	Be Quiet! Shadow Rock Slim with Arctic MX-4
Memory	16GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3000 MHz
Video Card(s)	Palit GTX 1080 Game Rock
Storage	Mushkin Triactor 240GB + Toshiba X300 4TB
Display(s)	Philips 237E7QDSB/00 23" FHD AH-IPS
Case	Aerocool Aero-1000 white + 4 Arctic F12 PWM Rev.2 fans
Audio Device(s)	Onboard Audio Boost 3 with Nahimic Audio Enhancer
Power Supply	FSP Hydro G 650W
Mouse	Cougar 700M eSports white
Keyboard	E-Blue Cobra II
Software	Windows 8.1 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R15: 948 (stock) / 1044 (4,7 GHz) FarCry 5 1080p Ultra: min 100, avg 116, max 133 FPS

System Name	1 Desktop/2 Laptops/1 Netbook
Processor	AMD Athon X2 64/Intel Pentium 997/Intel Pentium 4/Intel Atom
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Storage	6+ TB Total
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Case	None
Audio Device(s)	Various
Power Supply	Seasonic 500 Watt & VenomRX 500 Watt
Mouse	Wayes Iron Man Wireless Mouse
Keyboard	Rexus VR2 Wireless Keyboard
Software	Win10 & WinXP SP3
Benchmark Scores	It sucks...

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Processor	Intel 8600k@4.8Ghz
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strixx Z370-F
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Memory	16 Corsair Vengeance White LED DDR4 3200Mhz {2x8GB}
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Storage	Samsung 970Evo 512GB SSD (Boot)\|WD Blue 1TB SSD\|2x 3TB Toshiba DT01ACA300
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Case	Corsair 760T (White)
Audio Device(s)	Yamaha RX-V573\|Speakers: JBL Control One\|Auna 300-CN\|Wharfedale Diamond SW150
Power Supply	Corsair AX760
Mouse	Logitech G900/G502
Keyboard	Duckyshine Dead LED(s) III
Software	Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

System Name	Juliette // HTPC
Processor	Intel i7 9700K // Intel i5 4570
Motherboard	ASUS Prime Z390X-A// Gigabyte H97M -D3H
Cooling	Noctua NH-U12 Black // Silverstone NT-06 Pro
Memory	Corsair DDR4 3600 32gb //G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 1600
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Power Supply	Corsair TX850M // SeaSonic G Series 550w
Mouse	Cooler Master MM710 53G
Keyboard	Logitech 920-009300 G512 SE
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Cooling	corsair h100 rgb pro 240mm aio
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Video Card(s)	EVGA ftw3 1080 ti hybrid with custom oc
Storage	500gb samsung 970evo m.2
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Case	cuk mantis that i customized for airflow
Power Supply	evga 850BQ
Mouse	Razer lancehead tournament edition
Keyboard	Razer blackwidow v2
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Processor	AMD FX 8300 @ 4.5
Motherboard	Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
Cooling	Thermalright Macho Rev.B
Memory	16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400MHz CL10
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Storage	256GB Toshiba Q Pro MLC + 500GB WD VelociRaptor
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