What's on your hardware wish list ?

[Arrakis9]

Was thinking about getting an Intel 900p and an i7 5775c to turn my pc full beast mode. Hearing allyn talk about the 900p in his pod cast made me have to have it after comparing it to the 960 pro and Intel 750. The 5775c seems completely op when you disable the igpu and use the eDRAM as an L4 cache, also seems like the logical choice to pair with the 32gb of ram and a 900p. What do you guys think? It would only set me back about 900 dollars

 

[StrayKAT]

Was thinking about getting an Intel 900p and an i7 5775c to turn my pc full beast mode. Hearing allyn talk about the 900p in his pod cast made me have to have it after comparing it to the 960 pro and Intel 750. The 5775c seems completely op when you disable the igpu and use the eDRAM as an L4 cache, also seems like the logical choice to pair with the 32gb of ram and a 900p. What do you guys think? It would only set me back about 900 dollars

Well I just splurged on a 900p so obviously I say yes. I originally was gonna hold out for larger sizes but who knows when the hell that will be.

Can you do that igfx trick on 7700k? And how?

 

[R-T-B]

Can you do that igfx trick on 7700k? And how?

Nope, no edram on 7700k. It just uses your ram so nothing to gain.

 

[Arrakis9]

Nope, no edram on 7700k. It just uses your ram so nothing to gain.

Basically this. The 5775c is a gem of a cpu.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Was thinking about getting an Intel 900p and an i7 5775c to turn my pc full beast mode. Hearing allyn talk about the 900p in his pod cast made me have to have it after comparing it to the 960 pro and Intel 750. The 5775c seems completely op when you disable the igpu and use the eDRAM as an L4 cache, also seems like the logical choice to pair with the 32gb of ram and a 900p. What do you guys think? It would only set me back about 900 dollars

You don't have to disable igpu, edram is assigned dynamically depending on what's needed.

Second of all, don't you need u.2 for 900p ? will this work on your or my z97 board ?

 

[Vayra86]

Was thinking about getting an Intel 900p and an i7 5775c to turn my pc full beast mode. Hearing allyn talk about the 900p in his pod cast made me have to have it after comparing it to the 960 pro and Intel 750. The 5775c seems completely op when you disable the igpu and use the eDRAM as an L4 cache, also seems like the logical choice to pair with the 32gb of ram and a 900p. What do you guys think? It would only set me back about 900 dollars

Paying full price + Board + DDR3 for a 5775c is not going to be a good buy unless you want a powerful HTPC and run on the IGP specifically.

Disabling the IGP yes, you get good performance, but at the same time, it won't surpass the performance of a 7700k with a mild OC. The 5775c extracts higher IPC for gaming, but it clocks considerably lower.

Basically the only thing you gain with the 5775c today is that you have an old platform versus a recent platform, no net gains. I'll leave it to you whether that's a good pick

 

[StrayKAT]

@cucker tarlson You need a pcie or u.2.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Paying full price + Board + DDR3 for a 5775c is not going to be a good buy unless you want a powerful HTPC and run on the IGP specifically.

Disabling the IGP yes, you get good performance, but at the same time, it won't surpass the performance of a 7700k with a mild OC. The 5775c extracts higher IPC for gaming, but it clocks considerably lower.

Basically the only thing you gain with the 5775c today is that you have an old platform versus a recent platform, no net gains. I'll leave it to you whether that's a good pick

Depends on the clocks. At 4.2GHz stock edram it won't surpass it but it'll come close. If you get it to 4.3GHz-4.4GHz and run edram at 2000-2200MHz it'll easily beat 7700K at 5GHz.
5775c is only a good idea if you have the board and ram, if not 8600K is gonna perform better and cost less.

@cucker tarlson You need a pcie or u.2.

If it's optane then isn't it restricted to z270/x299 ?

 

[EarthDog]

@cucker tarlson You need a pcie or u.2.

And you need to stop telling people to jump on the enterprise intended u.2.

In one thread you complain about a lack of connectors on mobos for it, here, you suggest it... ??

 

[cucker tarlson]

Still, I'd rather trade my 512GB 850Pro for two 256GB ones and go full RAIDtard with 4 of them in one array. From what I read on tweaktown the 4K low QD write performance boost is huge for RAID arrays. Optane, even though much better overall, is still too damn expensive.

 

[StrayKAT]

And you need to stop telling people to jump on the enterprise intended u.2.

In one thread you complain about a lack of connectors on mobos for it, here, you suggest it... ??

You can get a pcie version. I only got u.2 because I hate using pcie slot drives when I have other options.

As far as I know, it wasn't just meant for enterprise. M.2 was supposed to be mobile solution at first. It's just unfortunate that they didn't get marketed that way yet. U.2 is just 2.5 and meant to replace SATA SSDs.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

The only thing i need is another xbox controller so my troglodytic son can keep his mucky paws off mine.

 

[EarthDog]

You can get a pcie version. I only got u.2 because I hate using pcie slot drives when I have other options.

As far as I know, it wasn't just meant for enterprise. M.2 was supposed to be mobile solution at first. It's just unfortunate that they didn't get marketed that way yet. U.2 is just 2.5 and meant to replace SATA SSDs.

m.2 you mean, not pcie.

It started for enterprise, SAS/SATA/pcie. Its intent was never to replace sata ssd in the consumer space. Clearly m.2 is doing so, and has a lot more adaptation. To go u.2 now really limits choices of boards for absolutely no reason.

 

[lyndonguitar]

after passing the board exams for engineering... i sold off my unit and rewarded myself(plus additional money from parents) with a shiny new coffeelake rig. HTC Vive is the only thing I need right now

 

[Th3pwn3r]

What I want is:

Three 4k monitors
1TB NVME SSD
New Daskeyboard with blank keys. Mine has a few solder burns

 

[StrayKAT]

m.2 you mean, not pcie.

It started for enterprise, SAS/SATA/pcie. Its intent was never to replace sata ssd in the consumer space. Clearly m.2 is doing so, and has a lot more adaptation. To go u.2 now really limits choices of boards for absolutely no reason.

I don't even know why you say this. You're more knowledgeable than me, but you're not being practical. M.2 has only so much space directly on the mb. U.2 can eventually take up the whole area where SATA ports are and have the drives in bays as usual.

 

[EarthDog]

Practical, lol.. just look around you and your own statements. U.2 never got traction in the consumer space. A lack of boards, even in the crossocer hedt, show this. To replace sata with u.2 means HALF the available connections in the same space. Less than m.2, sure, but these arent really intended to replace sata either. Its a workaround so to speak, for more bandwidth.

U.2 = mostly enterprise
M.2 = mostly consumer

Dont wonder why non enterprise/server boards dont have the connectivity.

I beleieve sata4 is coming out sooner than later and will increase bandwidth that way.

 

[StrayKAT]

Practical, lol.. just look around you and your own statements. U.2 never got traction in the consumer space. A lack of boards, even in the crossocer hedt, show this. To replace sata with u.2 means HALF the available connections in the same space. Less than m.2, sure, but these arent really intended to replace sata either. Its a workaround so to speak, for more bandwidth.

U.2 = mostly enterprise
M.2 = mostly consumer

Dont wonder why non enterprise/server boards dont have the connectivity.

I beleieve sata4 is coming out sooner than later and will increase bandwidth that way.

But some do have it. It doesn't look that settled to me. It's still too early to tell.

And I don't understand the concept of an enterprise only interface. Maybe if I strained myself I could think of some, but this is just a faster 2.5 SSD. Nothing about it is peculiar to enterprise. The other is thin and power constrained (in addition to the funky layout that was unneccessary on desktops). Even the form factor designer intended it for netbooks and tablets (neither as popular now). That's the one intended for a specific market. This is why it's funny how common it is now. I get the feeling they tooled all this for another reason, but now they're gonna make the best of it and push it on desktops.

 

[EarthDog]

Yes, some do... But 'some' have had ONE for generations now and it has not grown. Think about it for a second...................If it was getting traction in the market, wouldn't we see more U.2 drives (isn't Intel the only one who still uses them?) and more board connectivity?

Again, they have been out for a couple of years now and a couple generations of motherboards and still it is pretty rare in both mainstream, and HEDT market segments. They also seem to fetch a price premium. On the other hand, M.2 has grown quite a bit and is only limited by, as you said, space, and the number of PCIe lanes or SATA lanes going to them.

I don't think I said/alluded to enterprise only. I am saying that is where it started and its intended market (SAS/SATAe replacements). It can crossover, but, what I am trying to get at, is that it isn't. Nor will it. Not with M.2 saturating the market, and motherboards and clearly gaining a ton of traffic. I'm trying to temper your surprise at more boards not having it, considering the market over the last couple of years since they were released.

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

GTX 980Ti or GTX 1070

A PCIe m.2 SSD would also be sweet

 

[StrayKAT]

Yes, some do... But 'some' have had ONE for generations now and it has not grown. Think about it for a second...................If it was getting traction in the market, wouldn't we see more U.2 drives (isn't Intel the only one who still uses them?) and more board connectivity?

Again, they have been out for a couple of years now and a couple generations of motherboards and still it is pretty rare in both mainstream, and HEDT market segments. They also seem to fetch a price premium. On the other hand, M.2 has grown quite a bit and is only limited by, as you said, space, and the number of PCIe lanes or SATA lanes going to them.

I don't think I said/alluded to enterprise only. I am saying that is where it started and its intended market (SAS/SATAe replacements). It can crossover, but, what I am trying to get at, is that it isn't. Nor will it. Not with M.2 saturating the market, and motherboards and clearly gaining a ton of traffic. I'm trying to temper your surprise at more boards not having it, considering the market over the last couple of years since they were released.

I'm with you there. I wished they pushed it better. I'm not denying the reality of the market. Only that I hope u.2 gets a catalyst and more mobo options.

 

[EarthDog]

I don't wish anything honestly. I can't think of any benefits outside of space for it over M.2.

Let it die... or let it go back home to the Enterprise where it started. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone with M.2 as an option. Zero hope, zero cares with M.2 already here.

 

[StrayKAT]

I don't wish anything honestly. I can't think of any benefits outside of space for it over M.2.

Let it die... or let it go back home to the Enterprise where it started. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone with M.2 as an option. Zero hope, zero cares with M.2 already here.

Well you just saw that recent comment I made about capacity speed elsewhere. That's one reason why I hopped on. Of course, you still don't need u.2 for that. But I went there, so now I can't let it die. It's also got far better endurance than other consumer ssds. So you can see why I might still want it for a motherboard in the future.

 

[EarthDog]

Endurance. That hasn't been an issue on SSDs for generations...
http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead

The only thing going U.2 does is paint the average consumer/users in a corner to find a board with the port. Let it play with like friends on the enterprise playground.

 

[Disparia]

LOL, I remember my TV tuner from 15 years ago, I thought it was soo cool. Too bad each channel change came with like a 2 second delay lol. The good old days.

I've been wanting one for awhile, but not so much that I've gone ahead and bought it yet. With HBO/Netflix/Hulu I only switch over to antenna when it's locked behind a cable sub or (re)streamed poorly. Probably only a dozen times a year.