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Which is best gpu?

Forza 5, RDR2, CP2077 off the top of my head.

But that's at 4K.
 
my friend is willing to give me a new one for 399$
 
The ASRock Phantom Gaming Arc A770 (plus 2 games and 5 Creative Apps Offer w/ purchase) is now going for ~$267 on Newegg.

I still can’t bring myself to buy one though,…
 
Octavean said:
The ASRock Phantom Gaming Arc A770 (plus 2 games and 5 Creative Apps Offer w/ purchase) is now going for ~$267 on Newegg.

I still can’t bring myself to buy one though,…
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If I didn't hate Intel, I probably would've bought one of those just to tinker with it.

But, since I do.... "NEWP!" :laugh:

On another note, the OP hasn't posted anything since February 3. I think that we've been trolled. :confused:
 
Avro Arrow said:
If I didn't hate Intel, I probably would've bought one of those just to tinker with it.

But, since I do.... "NEWP!" :laugh:

On another note, the OP hasn't posted anything since February 3. I think that we've been trolled. :confused:
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I don’t hate Intel, it’s more like I view them with a healthy suspicion. The type of healthy suspicion one should have for just about any for profit company.

While I was very impressed with the first AMD RyZen processors, there was no way I was going to buy one with my own money for the purpose of my own use case. The second Gen RyZen processors showed a promising upward trajectory and by the time the third Gen hit the market I was willing to put my money into it.

I view Intel Arc GPU’s similarly

I’d like to see a third contender in the GPU space that is reliable. nVidia has been pushing their luck in a number of ways and their prices. AMD has their GPU related issues too.
 
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Octavean said:
I don’t hate Intel, it’s more like I view them with a healthy suspicion. The type of healthy suspicion one should have for just about any for profit company.
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That looks good on paper but it's a false equivalency. I'll explain:
- I view AMD with a healthy suspicion because of what they could do.
- I hate Intel because of what they have done.

Intel (and nVidia for that matter) have committed blatant acts that essentially said "FAH-Q" to consumers (over and over and over again). I am a consumer and if a company wants to treat me like that, I'm not enough of a wuss to continue supporting them because I have far too much self-respect. I will hate them and I will refuse to buy their products, period.
Octavean said:
While I was very impressed with the first AMD RyZen processors, there was no way I was going to buy one with my own money for the purpose of my own use case. The second Gen RyZen processors showed a promising upward trajectory and by the time the third Gen hit the market I was willing to put my money into it.
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I don't know your specific use-case but I'm sure that it's reasonable.
Octavean said:
I view Intel Arc GPU’s similarly. I’d like to see a third contender in the GPU space that is reliable.
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See, the thing with Intel is that, having seen their actions in the past (from the other side of the counter when I worked for Tiger Direct), I see them as just another nVidia. I know that they don't need my support because they're already rolling in it. Speaking of rolling, that's why I always roll my eyes when I see articles titled "Intel is in big trouble!" or something like that.
Octavean said:
nVidia has been pushing their luck in a number of ways and their prices. AMD has their GPU related issues too.
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AMD's GPU-related issues have been way overblown because if they were even half as bad as people seem to think, I wouldn't use them myself and I certainly wouldn't recommend them to anyone else. I've used several brands of video card in my life (ATi, Oak, CirrusLogic and nVidia) and they all work the same. Whichever one is fastest at my price point is what I buy, well, as long as it's not nVidia. Now, I know that sounds dumb but even if I didn't hate nVidia, Radeons have been the fastest cards at my price point every single time anyway. The only driver-related issue that I've ever encountered was some annoying overscan with my R9 Furies. Simply toggling GPU scaling in the Crimson control panel fixed the problem instantly. As for Adrenalin, I've never once encountered an issue, period.
 
Understood but its a dubious distinction to decry the company that has run roughshod over their customers and one that would if given half the chance. The reality is that corporations and businesses aren't your friends. In fact they aren't people at all and they don't have ethical outlooks its profit$ or extinction.

To really care about a company I would have to own stock in it. If I owned stock in it, you can bet that I would want them to go above and beyond to increase my investment in them which may or may not be seen as hostile to the customer.

I don't like Apple as a company. I could go on and on about the right to repair, closed ecosystems, planned obsolescence and more. Still I might buy some of their products and I certainly can't dissuade others from buying their products.

While I like AMD I'm not loving the fact that the higher their market share the more they seem to charge for their higher end processors. I'm also not crazy about being priced out a previously accessible market with respect to Threadripper and they have admitted to under producing GPUs in the past with the intention of doing so in the future.

Abstaining from buying from companies you dislike and or distrust is understandable but if I held that belief I wouldn't have any company to buy anything from.
 
Octavean said:
Abstaining from buying from companies you dislike and or distrust is understandable but if I held that belief I wouldn't have any company to buy anything from.
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That's pretty much the core of why oligopolies are often bad. lol
 
Octavean said:
Understood but its a dubious distinction to decry the company that has run roughshod over their customers and one that would if given half the chance.
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They have absolutely done anti-consumer all for profit moves before, at our expense, they would do way more if given the chance, and currently do as much as they can reasonably get away with.
Octavean said:
Abstaining from buying from companies you dislike and or distrust is understandable but if I held that belief I wouldn't have any company to buy anything from.
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Spot on and such is my stance, I have a low tolerance for this stuff and all major players have leapfrogged my tolerance level several times over, so I try ignore the politics when buying and focus on the products. There seems to be no point to me, to draw an arbitrary line in my mind where the exact amount AMD does is the acceptable level and anything more is bad, you can make an argument for them being the 'least worst', but that's far from high praise. I fanboy for no-one.
 
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