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Who do you think is the better CoD Developer?

Who do you think is the beter COD Developer


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  • Poll closed .
Oh man this is a very misguided post. Anyway let me punch a few holes in your theory. First off IW didn't create their game engine. iD software did when they made Quake 3. Yup its a highly modified Tech 3 engine (Quake 3) which they have been using for YEARS. Since Call of Duty 1 I believe. Want proof? Read the fine print on the back of your MW box and tell me who's listed as a license. iD software.

So IW made a game. Not an engine. Let that be clear.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IW_engine

Now you wanna trash Treyarch? Why because they are not your beloved IW? Well let me tell you a little secret. Treyarch are the guys from Gray Matter. You know the creators of Call of Duty: United Offensive? Ever play it? It had tanks, jeeps, a higher player count (32 I think) that IW in all their wisdom REMOVED in MW. The only thing IW kept was the RANKING SYSTEM that Gray Matter created. After that IW ripped off DICEs weapon perks system and MW was born. MWs multiplayer is a bastard child of Carmack and Gray Matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_United_Offensive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Matter_Interactive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treyarch

So please get your facts straight before you rant.

IMO IW makes a great single player game. Awesome in fact. The multi however is pretty standard.
Treyarch is best at multiplayer with a shallow single tacked on. Its a shame IW never let those guys help them with the multi. We would have had CoD:UO2!

well said :toast:
 
Oh man this is a very misguided post. Anyway let me punch a few holes in your theory. First off IW didn't create their game engine. iD software did when they made Quake 3. Yup its a highly modified Tech 3 engine (Quake 3) which they have been using for YEARS. Since Call of Duty 1 I believe. Want proof? Read the fine print on the back of your MW box and tell me who's listed as a license. iD software.

So IW made a game. Not an engine. Let that be clear.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IW_engine

Now you wanna trash Treyarch? Why because they are not your beloved IW? Well let me tell you a little secret. Treyarch are the guys from Gray Matter. You know the creators of Call of Duty: United Offensive? Ever play it? It had tanks, jeeps, a higher player count (32 I think) that IW in all their wisdom REMOVED in MW. The only thing IW kept was the RANKING SYSTEM that Gray Matter created. After that IW ripped off DICEs weapon perks system and MW was born. MWs multiplayer is a bastard child of Carmack and Gray Matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_United_Offensive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Matter_Interactive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treyarch

So please get your facts straight before you rant.

IMO IW makes a great single player game. Awesome in fact. The multi however is pretty standard.
Treyarch is best at multiplayer with a shallow single tacked on. Its a shame IW never let those guys help them with the multi. We would have had CoD:UO2!


Yeah , and before you corret me , make sure you know it all , i didn't mentioned that because i simply forgot.


The ID Tech 3 that is used is for COD1 , and modified for COD2.

COD4 Uses a Proprietary engine (IW engine) built by IW. Still uses ID software code but no longer needs license.
and MW2 uses an updated one , this time codenamed "IW4" engine.

COD5 WAW uses improved and adapted IW engine.

While COD Black Ops will not use IW 4.0 , but rather an improved WAW engine.

Ofcourse i know about treyarch but because activision used IW stuff to spread it around , and when treyarch took big credit , they were pissed and they switched to modern days , so like i said , IW was really pissed , so they just wanted to get out of IW , and they rushed MW2 , and because they didn't get royalties , they were owed so much , they simply did a game for max sales and fast , mindless xbox shooting 24/7 and that's it , 20 millon sold , kthxbye.

Fact is , Treyarch was provided with everything , while IW did the hardest job and they end up loosing everything , how do you like that.
 
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Yeah , and before you corret me , make sure you know it all , i didn't mentioned that because i simply forgot.


The ID Tech 3 that is used is for COD1 , and modified for COD2.

COD4 Uses a Proprietary engine (IW engine) built by IW. Still uses ID software code but no longer needs license.
and MW2 uses an updated one , this time codenamed "IW4" engine.

COD5 WAW uses improved and adapted IW engine.

While COD Black Ops will not use IW 4.0 , but rather an improved WAW engine.

Ofcourse i know about treyarch but because activision used IW stuff to spread it around , and when treyarch took big credit , they were pissed and they switched to modern days , so like i said , IW was really pissed , so they just wanted to get out of IW , and they rushed MW2 , and because they didn't get royalties , they were owed so much , they simply did a game for max sales and fast , mindless xbox shooting 24/7 and that's it , 20 millon sold , kthxbye.

Fact is , Treyarch was provided with everything , while IW did the hardest job and they end up loosing everything , how do you like that.

IW did get done over by activision yes founders Jason West and Vince Zampella got the sack and more than half of the team that made MW2 have left IW and activision has kept some people on to finish MW3, this just means that IW cod team has fallen apart and this all happened after MW2 come out, so really has nothing to do with the game sucking and cod mw3 will take a hit for this that game will be crap, IW cant take credit for the IW engine because they didn't design it for ground up they updated it to 4 that does take time just like Treyarch modified the IW engine.
 
Yeah , and before you corret me , make sure you know it all , i didn't mentioned that because i simply forgot.


The ID Tech 3 that is used is for COD1 , and modified for COD2.

COD4 Uses a Proprietary engine (IW engine) built by IW. Still uses ID software code but no longer needs license.
and MW2 uses an updated one , this time codenamed "IW4" engine.

COD5 WAW uses improved and adapted IW engine.

While COD Black Ops will not use IW 4.0 , but rather an improved WAW engine.

Ofcourse i know about treyarch but because activision used IW stuff to spread it around , and when treyarch took big credit , they were pissed and they switched to modern days , so like i said , IW was really pissed , so they just wanted to get out of IW , and they rushed MW2 , and because they didn't get royalties , they were owed so much , they simply did a game for max sales and fast , mindless xbox shooting 24/7 and that's it , 20 millon sold , kthxbye.

Fact is , Treyarch was provided with everything , while IW did the hardest job and they end up loosing everything , how do you like that.

Don't need a license? The box says otherwise. IW didn't do as much work as you think. They didn't do much more then Treyarch. In fact if you look at the shallow multiplayer mechanics they did LESS then Treyarch. Oh an WaW is the same engine. Please don't make me scan that box too.

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COD 4 was a great game, a great standard FPS, and i hoped MW2 fixed the few flaws COD 4 had, and be an evolution of COD 4 , but instead they did nothing about that, worse they remove things like lean ( and then insulted us by telling "it's not balanced for lean") , dedicated servers, mods, etc. For me MW2 was broken from the beginning, because since i don't live in the US, i can't play the MP because of LAG, but i'm still playing COD 4.

On the other hand, i felt the SP of WaW was not as good as COD 4, but not as ridiculous as MW2, it was Ok, but the MP is great, and Zombie Nazis is great, they should release an entire game with zombies, do you like to kill nazis!!!, how about a Zombie Nazis campaign!!!

IW screw it bad with MW2, let see what Treyarch can do now
 
Infinity Ward was great at the COD series, but it slowly declined sadly.:(, they realized they had such a good franchise on there hands that they knew they could do as little work as possible and still people would jizz there pants at the site of a new COD, and that's exactly what they did.

Treyarch seems to be picking up momentum within the COD series, they probably saw IW going down the tubes so they found it a good opportunity to push them over as the best COD dev.
 
IW = Dead
T =Being forced to take their place with COD:MW3 Black ops
 
What do u think?
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Infinity Ward
Behind MW 1,2/COD 1 and 2
No gore
Good SP
Lacking atmosphere
No dedicated servers (MW2)
Steam game (MW2)
No mods

I bid to differ, but CoD1, CoD2 & CoD:MW1 DID have mods I have no idea what servers youve been playing on. with cod1 one of the things that really really impressed me back in the day & its something i will never forget is when Medal Of Honor maps made it onto the servers. I totally love it there have been various AWE mods out for both games.

go figure
 
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I bid to differ, but CoD1, CoD2 & CoD:MW2 DID have mods I have no idea what servers youve been playing on. with cod1 one of the things that really really impressed me back in the day & its something i will never forget is when Medal Of Honor maps made it onto the servers. I totally love it there have been various AWE mods out for both games.

go figure

MW did. MW2 did not.
 
I cant vote on the poll for some reason.

but Id have to say Treyarch is better - Because the days when it took you a good 1min drive/ride in a jeep to get across the map for CTF totally pwnd. UO will always have that edge over its successors. & like i say to everyone else. if not for vehicles. why else would games such as BF2 been such a great hit?? it was a great game to start off with but something that made it better was vehicles - jets, jeeps, quad bikes, dune/desert buggys, suzuki rascals, choppers, tanks & small rubber dingys
 
I cant vote on the poll for some reason.

but Id have to say Treyarch is better - Because the days when it took you a good 1min drive/ride in a jeep to get across the map for CTF totally pwnd. UO will always have that edge over its successors. & like i say to everyone else. if not for vehicles. why else would games such as BF2 been such a great hit?? it was a great game to start off with but something that made it better was vehicles - jets, jeeps, quad bikes, dune/desert buggys, suzuki rascals, choppers, tanks & small rubber dingys

PC users and been neutered by the console kiddies. UO was THE BEST! I mean base assault was pure gold.
 
I cant vote on the poll for some reason.

but Id have to say Treyarch is better - Because the days when it took you a good 1min drive/ride in a jeep to get across the map for CTF totally pwnd. UO will always have that edge over its successors. & like i say to everyone else. if not for vehicles. why else would games such as BF2 been such a great hit?? it was a great game to start off with but something that made it better was vehicles - jets, jeeps, quad bikes, dune/desert buggys, suzuki rascals, choppers, tanks & small rubber dingys

the poll finished 10 days ago ill see if i can get it reopened, i forgot cod4 had mods i fix it now lol.
 
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