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Why? What devices still use these? What devices were used back then? and I can't find one device that has one for it except a Motherboard. Now I know some Businesses still use them but I just like to know what devices. It's blowing my mind :twitch::banghead:

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On the service side I use them quite frequently for console/CLI access usually over Putty. Consider the DB9 as a PC-side interface to communicate with a variety of other serial port interfaces through the use of adapters.

You just haven't been involved in situations or industries that use them. In IT I see it needed a lot and for one am thankful the integrated serial port external interface made a comeback. Makes my life easier and makes new systems more easily integrated in locations where such a connection is required be it for a console or piece of machinery or monitoring or polling or whatever is communicating over serial.

A direct serial connection is also less finicky than a USB-to-Serial (db9) adapter. Making systems that have them preferred, at least for mine and many of my clients needs.
 
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Serial ports were used to connect external devices(not sure if this is what your asking), printers, testing equipment still uses serial ports. Ive never had a serial port on a motherboard I have owned, maybe my first prebuilt HP unit did. It is actually good to have a board with these, as you never know when you'll need 1.
 
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I know hospitals uses them to some degree so. In the video I posted it just killed me to know why lol. An i5 mini pc having such an old port
 

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Mini PCs and NUCs are ending up in production and manufacturing environments more and more. We use a lot of these mini systems with serial interfaces in the field.

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A direct serial connection is also less finicky than a USB-to-Serial (db9) adapter. Making systems that have them preferred, at least for mine and many of my clients needs.
100% this! USB serial adapters are a real pain for stuff I sometimes need to do- I keep an old Dell Latitude D series laptop alive for those occasions :rolleyes:
 
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Somewhere, I actually have a brand new PCI serial port card (unless I give it away to someone) . you never know when you're going to need something like that so I didn't want to throw it away plus I'm really cheap :)
 

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You still have serial ports for tons of enterprise applications.
Most boards only have pin headers, so you can connect an external port via ribbon cable or expansion bracket, and connect a bunch of stuff, like digital scales in warehouses, barcode scanners in stores, automated monstrosities, etc. etc. Even GPS modules in trucks/ships/trains still use serial interface for configuration.
 
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Why is serial ports still on Motherboards?
Why? What devices still use these?

Umm, did you watch your own video? He gives an excellent example why serial ports are still desired 2:44 into the video.
 
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Umm, did you watch your own video? He gives an excellent example why serial ports are still desired 2:44 into the video.
Yeah for those who have older video devices
 
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100% this! USB serial adapters are a real pain for stuff I sometimes need to do- I keep an old Dell Latitude D series laptop alive for those occasions :rolleyes:


Depends on what device. I do not know about industrial device, but I do use USB to Serial, serial to console for any dell N2000,N3000, N4000, Cisco 3850 and routers, never had any issue with this :)

if there is always traffic on the Serial port, I guess it is better to have it internally. That is why we still have this on some computer, as old device, they can be repaired (mecanic) but they won't update the interface if the device is working great, this I know :)

Same thing for VGA, or some other connection we still use
 
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Yeah for those who have older video devices
He never said that. Watch it again. He didn't say anything about "older video devices". He called the serial port "old school" but that in no way suggests older video devices (or obsolete or inferior). Video is only half of home theater setups and regardless, except for TV "display" technologies, "old school" technologies still meet stringent audiophile and videophile demands. There is no need to buy new just because something is old.
 
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He never said that. Watch it again. He didn't say anything about "older video devices". He called the serial port "old school" but that in no way suggests older video devices (or obsolete or inferior). Video is only half of home theater setups and regardless, except for TV "display" technologies, "old school" technologies still meet stringent audiophile and videophile demands. There is no need to buy new just because something is old.
Just like my G'Pa with all his old programs that won't work with W10 but XP only lol
 
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No. It is not at all like that. Sound is analog. Always has been and always will be. Therefore audio reproduction must support analog and even if digital components, will eventually output an analog signal to the speakers. There is no such thing as a digital speaker (regardless what some marketing weenies want you to believe). This is exactly why vinyl records are making a comeback.

Converting analog to digital and back to analog so our ears can hear the audio as it was originally produced is in no way comparable to incompatibility issues with programs designed for XP.
 
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I've seen a CNC milling machine that used a serial port.

Many people here remember pre PNP. Where all hardware had to be configured to an address
 
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Why? What devices still use these? What devices were used back then? and I can't find one device that has one for it except a Motherboard. Now I know some Businesses still use them but I just like to know what devices. It's blowing my mind :twitch::banghead:

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As mentioned already: mostly for professional use. And also for scientific equipment.
The reason is: PCs are cheap. Companies replace them usually every 3-5 years. Industrial, scientific or medical stuff is expensive, so it has a much longer lifespan (I really mean much longer: even decades).
Moreover, if you're just interested in electronics or something like that, you might want a serial port in your PC. Or at least an adapter.

Actually, there are still quite a lot of applications for 3.5" or even 5.25" floppy disks. Compared to them, serial ports don't look that ancient. ;-)
 
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Various peripherals/accessories/hardware use them in various industires. Ask the people making these things why they still use serial ports. They'll most likely tell you that it's what they've been using, it still works and it's cost effective to change a little as possible.
 

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What devices were used back then?

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Anyone Remember multi person Gaming ( max 2 ) via Serial null modem cables
Ah Those were the Days :) Before Networks Gained popularity

Ps Still have one in my Cable store :)
 
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I had a Zip Drive 100 mb that used the serial port,
 

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If you have a few million worth of fully functioning and up to spec industrial equipment you don't want to "upgrade" just because it doesn't have USB.

It is also awesomely simple and cheap to implement, so if you're only dealing with small data streams it is very perfect.
 

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I use serial cables all the time almost everyday to connect to networking equipment. Some cisco switches for example have a MTBF of 20 years for example. Of course you wont run it that long. But generally the Serial or console port on networking equipment is as close as your going to get to "jacking in" literally. The interface you are provided with is simple and not pretty (telnet/SSH) but talks directly to the controllers for config.

Router FW crash and typing 192.168.1.1 no longer gets you to the webUI? Thats a serial job.

Not to mention belive it or not the big boy routers and switches that cost like $15-$30k do NOT come with pretty interfaces. no Asus Merlin or DD-WRT here. just CLI. All done through serial or console.
 

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Anyone Remember multi person Gaming ( max 2 ) via Serial null modem cables
Ah Those were the Days :) Before Networks Gained popularity

Ps Still have one in my Cable store :)
Many, but much later (mid-to-late-90's for me). My school had no network in the computer lab, so we used to bring null-modem cable to play Heretic w/ my friend.
Then, when we finally got our own PCs in college, and even though Ethernet/cable was already affordable in my area, we were still experimenting with stuff like dial-up private networks, ppp laser connections etc... The speed was horrible for anything other than IM or playing turn-based games, like Heroes of Might and Magic 2, But the geek-factor was through the roof.

I still have one cable in my workshop for diagnosing managed switches and other networking equipment, which my neighbor brings-in for repair. I also hate USB-RS232 converters and cables, cause they always break in the most unexpected situations. Usually it's either my stationary SFF PC w/ Serial port, or my old D620.

P.S. Also forgot one important example: digital coin/token/bill acceptors and most embedded credit card readers also use serial communication (except those shitty chinese coin acceptors w/ pulse signaling). If you ever had a chance to look into one of those payment terminals or ATMs, you'd probably notice something like a typical SoC board, but with 3-4 or more serial headers for all peripherals. There is a local company in my area which makes those from surprisingly mundane parts, like old cheap Atom N570 boards w/ LVDS interface, some serial bill acceptors and card readers, logitech webcam and the cheapest available laptop LCD screens w/ chinese 15" digitizer panels. All communication is done through 2G, cause there is not much traffic from each terminal, and some local cell service providers now offer cheap IoT plans at less than $0.40/mo per device.
 
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Why? What devices still use these? What devices were used back then? and I can't find one device that has one for it except a Motherboard. Now I know some Businesses still use them but I just like to know what devices. It's blowing my mind :twitch::banghead:

This Video brought me to make this Thread

I believe it's a must have since many businesses have machines and equipment like POS machines, industrial printers that rely on the port.
 
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I believe it's a must have since many businesses have machines and equipment like POS machines, industrial printers that rely on the port.
Yeah I know printers like for printing receipts are still a thing and other stuff I can't think of
 
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