Why are the new generation graphics cards such bricks?

[AusWolf]

The 7900 series are dual slot cards by standard design, but never mind.

To answer the question: do you remember when SLi and CrossFire were a thing? 2, 3, sometimes 4 graphics cards working together? Well, those times are over. Instead of 3 graphics cards, now you have 1 that takes 3 slots. Kind of the same thing, really, only that it works way better now, with more stable drivers. The same way no one asked you to buy 3-4 graphics cards back then, no one is asking you to buy a 4090 today. A 3060 or 6600 XT is perfectly fine for most people.

 

[N/A]

Doesi it matter, nvidia did't expose the full power requirement and they went all out or just want to sell us this big truck of a video card.

Better cooling can't be bad, I always prefer top air than to spend more for water, but now we have to spend $299 more than the usual *70Ti cost anyways.

That can only be a problem for old cases with HDD cages in front.

the bigger Quad slot (3.5 slots) 331.8x136.8x71.1mm is truly overkill and is not fitting in my smaller case unless the dremel gets involved but the regular sized and cheap matrexx50 should be fine.

 

[claes]

Idk my FT02 is limited to 309mm. Still, I prefer these quiet designs over the screaming banshees of yesteryear.

 

[sLowEnd]

Idk my FT02 is limited to 309mm. Still, I prefer these quiet designs over the screaming banshees of yesteryear.

B-but the sound of running my 8800 GT at full blast is so nostalgic...

Nah, I'm also glad computers parts are generally quieter these days.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I mean... to them anyway

 

[AusWolf]

B-but the sound of running my 8800 GT at full blast is so nostalgic...

Nah, I'm also glad computers parts are generally quieter these days.

Oh yes, we've all been down to blower hell!

You know what else is nostalgic? A dirt brown motherboard, some vomit green RAM sticks and a pale blue graphics card, illuminated by a neon tube bought for pennies at a flea market, all in a generic office chassis with its side panel off. Who needs RGB with a setup like that?

 

[freeagent]

I don't know, maybe I am just used to thicc cards but.. I used my 580 Matrix for 8 years, that dinosaur was triple slots. I had two that I ran in SLi occasionally, forget about a soundcard and decent temps lol. Those 580s on their own and paired up chewed hella power. In 2017 when I got my 980 Classified, it was such a treat. 2 slot card that ran nice and cool. Now onto a 3070 Ti and its a 3 slot cooler too. 325w as seen in HWinfo and it runs fairly cool. I have been tempted to pop the cooler off to replace the paste, but right now I don't want to deal with thermal pads and all that junk. Plus I don't have the proper tools to open it right now

 

[AusWolf]

I don't know, maybe I am just used to thicc cards but.. I used my 580 Matrix for 8 years, that dinosaur was triple slots. I had two that I ran in SLi occasionally, forget about a soundcard and decent temps lol. Those 580s on their own and paired up chewed hella power. In 2017 when I got my 980 Classified, it was such a treat. 2 slot card that ran nice and cool. Now onto a 3070 Ti and its a 3 slot cooler too. 325w as seen in HWinfo and it runs fairly cool. I have been tempted to pop the cooler off to replace the paste, but right now I don't want to deal with thermal pads and all that junk. Plus I don't have the proper tools to open it right now

My Asus HD 7970 was triple slot and it ran at 1.05 GHz before the first "GHz edition" card came into existence.

 

[freeagent]

My Asus HD 7970 was triple slot and it ran at 1.05 GHz before the first "GHz edition" card came into existence.

I could run mine pretty close to 1GHz, but as usual I was left disappointed

I want to say 940, but I think it was a little more. I have it burned right now so I don't have to mess with clocks and curves.

 

[tabascosauz]

I don't know, maybe I am just used to thicc cards but.. I used my 580 Matrix for 8 years, that dinosaur was triple slots. I had two that I ran in SLi occasionally, forget about a soundcard and decent temps lol. Those 580s on their own and paired up chewed hella power. In 2017 when I got my 980 Classified, it was such a treat. 2 slot card that ran nice and cool. Now onto a 3070 Ti and its a 3 slot cooler too. 325w as seen in HWinfo and it runs fairly cool. I have been tempted to pop the cooler off to replace the paste, but right now I don't want to deal with thermal pads and all that junk. Plus I don't have the proper tools to open it right now

Last thicc card I had was a better-than-280X 280X Vapor-X. Not the 3-fan version that you'll find if you search the web, but the super obscure dual fan 7970GHz Vapor-X rebranded to be 280X. Obviously, 1050 out of the box. What a beast, with a sound profile to match (I want to say 50-60dB but I'm not a sound expert).

I think only with the 3070 Ti have I finally found a card that is just as big and heavy.

I wasn't much a fan of triple fan cards at first, but the cooling performance the big heatsinks offer is just bonkers. We're getting to the point where deshroud mods don't always work that well anymore (even when properly modded), because some of the bigger AIB coolers are already making the best use of their heatsinks.

Though, I would very much like for these cards to stick to the 7900XT cooler design - 2.5 slot, less than 300mm long. Some of these sub-3080 performance level cards are just way bigger than they should be (I thought mine was big, the size of the RX6800 TUF is just unacceptable for the power and heat load, same goes for 3060/3060Ti TUF).

 

[1freedude]

Oh yes, we've all been down to blower hell!

I never had a blower on a vid card. Not even a little one.

 

[AusWolf]

I could run mine pretty close to 1GHz, but as usual I was left disappointed

I want to say 940, but I think it was a little more. I have it burned right now so I don't have to mess with clocks and curves.

I didn't have to mess with it at all. The original HD 7970 ran at 975 MHz (I think), but Asus pushed this one to 1.05 GHz out of the box. It's funny that the first official AMD "GHz edition" card only got released months later.

I never had a blower on a vid card. Not even a little one.

Good for you. My 7800 GS AGP kicked ass. Not with its performance, but with its noise.

Edit: typo

 

[eidairaman1]

I guess the only way to run these chonkers is a Ribbon cable...

 

[freeagent]

My case has a built in GPU support, I think I am ok for a decade or until I break the glass :/

 

[chrcoluk]

Now, after RTX 4090, RTX 4080, RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT, even the lower end RTX 4070 Ti looks like a brick. WTH? What happens with this industry?

3-slot? 4-slot?

What case now? E-ATX?

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Basically the industry has decided to not care about power consumption, they shipping high up on the power efficiency curve (pre overclocked) to get those last few % points

The best way to use recent gen GPUs in my opinion is undervolting them.

It probably also has the benefit to make people feel they not been rippped of so much that when you paying 4 figures for a GPU, its at least a lot of weight and size to it.

 

[eidairaman1]

My case has a built in GPU support, I think I am ok for a decade or until I break the glass :/

My card never sagged and its pretty heavy, must of been well built

 

[ARF]

67 degrees. Look at hotspot. That's hardly "dead cold."

Silicon can withstand temperatures around 110-120°C.

60-70°C is indeed dead cold, and you don't care about those spots because they are not important. You look at the overall and "official" GPU temp.

That’s not the right way to approach; birdie is right. The only reason they run cool(er) than what we are used too is BECAUSE they are large

What if they are smaller and the temp is still ok at around 80-90°C?

 

[AusWolf]

What if they are smaller and the temp is still ok at around 80-90°C?

That's what we have reference design cards for, I guess.

 

[ARF]

That's what we have reference design cards for, I guess.

Sadly, if you mean the FE, then it is of the same shitshow:

 

[AusWolf]

Sadly, if you mean the FE, then it is of the same shitshow:

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Nah, that's just another brick. I mean cards like AMD's 6000 and 7000 series reference designs, or the 3060 FE.

 

[27MaD]

Would a videocard that long have more problems with GPU sag?

Definitely, I think they do now include a support bracket with the cards.

 

[Hyderz]

expensive bricks too

 

[Chomiq]

Aren't they cold GPUs now?

Now, after RTX 4090, RTX 4080, RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT, even the lower end RTX 4070 Ti looks like a brick. WTH? What happens with this industry?

3-slot? 4-slot?

I think you're stuck in a feedback loop.

They are cool because they are 3-4 slot bricks with plenty of cooling potential. With chunky boy GPU's weighing 2-2.5 kg it's no wonder they're running at 60C in gaming workloads.

 

[ARF]

I think you're stuck in a feedback loop.

They are cool because they are 3-4 slot bricks with plenty of cooling potential. With chunky boy GPU's weighing 2-2.5 kg it's no wonder they're running at 60C in gaming workloads.

You don't understand that's an overkill. Expensive, unnecessary and unneeded!

 

[Chomiq]

You don't understand that's an overkill. Expensive, unnecessary and unneeded!

I understand it's overkill. My 2-slot 3080 Ti FE is proof of that.