Why beta version instead of WHQL version

100PIER · Jan 27, 2020

Hello,
Can you explain why a Intel WHQL version is detected as a beta version ?

W1zzard · Jan 27, 2020

Interesting, that shouldn't happen. Let me try to reproduce tomorrow

harm9963 · Jan 27, 2020

Happens often.

100PIER · Jan 28, 2020

YES, I do replicate the problem using DXDIAG tool as well.

W1zzard · Jan 28, 2020

harm9963 said:
Happens often.

442.01 was a hotfix driver and 450.12 a leaked driver. do you see the same issue on official nvidia whql release drivers?

hmmm works for me. any chance i could log onto your system with teamviewer to check a few things?

100PIER · Jan 28, 2020

Problem does occur with Intel GPU 27. x branch drivers on i3-8300 CPU.
Is it possible for you to use a 27.x branch driver instead of 26.x ?

W1zzard · Jan 28, 2020

Where do I get that driver?

R0H1T · Jan 28, 2020

Here, you're probably well aware of the site ~

http://www.station-drivers.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=352&func=fileinfo&id=4294&lang=fr

100PIER · Jan 28, 2020

YES, you can get the INTEL 27.xx driver using the link above from station-drivers,
or from necacom.net site:

Intel HD/UHD/Iris/Pro Graphics Driver 27.20.100.7738 UWD

necacom.net

harm9963 · Jan 28, 2020

Insider driver , are beta to me , by nature , preview build are for testing and feedback, not everyday users, DXDIAG has alway shown WHQL .

100PIER · Jan 28, 2020

Even with the native W10 (1903, Build 18363.592) Basic GPU driver GPUZ tool does report a "beta" signature which is obsiouly a wrong indication.
GPUZ should investigate this wrong signature detection and do fix the bug.
Here are a set of various Intel drivers version tested with DXDIAG and GPUZ tools.
Drivers version branch 26.xx are correctly detected WHQL, branch 27.xx are NOT correctly detected WHQL.
DXDIAG tools does provide correct signature status as well for 26.xx and 27.xx branch.

W1zzard · Jan 28, 2020

100PIER said:
Basic GPU driver GPUZ tool does report a "beta" signature

I fixed that this morning, while playing with the Intel WHQL testing

100PIER said:
Drivers version branch 26.xx are correctly detected WHQL, branch 27.xx are NOT correctly detected WHQL.

I suspect the 27.xx drivers are not WHQL but "attestation signed". Will download and check tomorrow

W1zzard · Jan 29, 2020

Just tested this, the new driver is indeed attestation signed, aka beta

Naki · Jan 30, 2020

Suggestion -- add a 3rd kind of drivers status except current TWO - Beta and WQHL.
Name it however you wish/think is best.

100PIER · Jan 30, 2020

Yes, I do agree with Naki suggestion to provide one exact status driver, so GPU should be the unique tool to display a correct Intel driver status and so will avoid any confusion with DXDIAG tool status driver which do provide one 'approximate' information..

W1zzard · Jan 30, 2020

gpuz displays the correct driver status already, are you saying you prefer to confuse 99% of users by showing "attestation" instead of "beta" ?

Naki · Jan 30, 2020

IF "Attestation" equals "Beta", then of course no use or need to do this.
Maybe in a tooltip then? Unless of course Attestation is exactly the same thing as Beta, in which case tooltip would be also useless.

harm9963 · Jan 30, 2020

Insider driver 450.12 , that comes from Preview Builds, fast ring,are for testing and feedback

i do not make available for download, but others do, and post as WQHL ,from Guru3d ,for available download .

Nvidia 450.12 WHQL for Win10 x64

https://c-t.work/s/8316b48efff046 https://pan.baidu.com/s/1LdUmtyDRCyFkuv2Qiq651A 提取码: m58c

forums.guru3d.com

P4-630 · Jan 30, 2020

harm9963 said:
Insider driver 450.12 , that comes from Preview Builds, fast ring,are for testing and feedback i do not make available for download, but others do, and post as WQHL ,from Guru3d ,for available download .

Nvidia 450.12 WHQL for Win10 x64

https://c-t.work/s/8316b48efff046 https://pan.baidu.com/s/1LdUmtyDRCyFkuv2Qiq651A 提取码: m58c

forums.guru3d.com

There was already a thread about it:

insider leaked nvidia drivers whql 450.12 branch, fresh of the press, for windows 20h2 but works with wddm 2.7 on 20h1 rtm. post your findings!

this is of course newer than the recent december 445.23 leaked driver which features wddm 2.7 and hardware accelerated gpu scheduling on 20h1. This driver is the next in line. I uploaded to dropbox for you to avoid chinese or russian limited bandwidth sites...

www.techpowerup.com

100PIER · Jan 30, 2020

@Wizzard,
If GPUZ said 'beta' and DXDIAG said 'WHQL' this is confusing for 99%.
Does "beta" strictly identical to 'attestation' for you ?

W1zzard · Jan 30, 2020

Dxdiag doesn't know about attestation signing. It will show whql for everything with a ms counter signature

Per Definition by Microsoft, attestation signing does not run a single of the whql tests.

harm9963 · Jan 30, 2020

Thank you ,Insider driver for testing and feedback should not be posted as WHQL.

lexluthermiester · Jan 30, 2020

I have a question, and perhaps I missed something, why are drivers not being downloaded from the makers of the drivers? For example, why are the Intel drivers in question here not being downloaded from Intel.com?

Naki · Feb 1, 2020

@W1zzard - is there such a thing as Beta drivers without attestation? :confused:

W1zzard · Feb 1, 2020

Naki said:
@W1zzard - is there such a thing as Beta drivers without attestation?

Not on windows 10

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Power Supply	EVGA 1300G2
Mouse	G502
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Processor	Core i7-4790K
Memory	16 GB
Video Card(s)	GTX 1080
Display(s)	30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software	Windows 7

Processor	Core i7-4790K
Memory	16 GB
Video Card(s)	GTX 1080
Display(s)	30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software	Windows 7

System Name	Harm's Rig
Processor	2700x / AMD 8370e 4500
Motherboard	Asus Prime x470 Pro / Msi GD80 990fxa
Cooling	Air
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Storage	1SSD / 1HHD
Display(s)	40"TV / 24" Asus
Case	NZXT Tempest custom
Audio Device(s)	Sharp Aquos
Power Supply	EVGA 1300G2
Mouse	G502
Keyboard	G413

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Software	Win10 64-bit (Main PC v.1809 RTM Enterprise/2nd PC v.1903 Insider Preview Pro/3rd PC - same as 2nd)

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Software	Windows 10 / Windows 10

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