Why does Microsoft want to use hardware that would be last-gen for their 2028 console?

[ixi]

Too far to look into the future. Everything can change.

 

[las]

This doesn't justify anything.


I would hate to get involved in these types of discussions but its not like you would find any of these in a decentralized desktop platform right?

A PC can't be compared to a dumb gaming box with a completely locked down ecosystem. I have several consoles, meaning I don't hate consoles, but they are cheaper for a reason. Games are more expensive than PC and online play is not possible without paying, even cloud saves are a no-go, all free on pc + pc games can be modded and optimized to perfection

 

[watzupken]

We have heard news of Microsoft's FTC leaks showing their vision for their next gen 2028 console using Zen 6 and RDNA 5. By 2028, this type of hardware would have already been 2/3 years old. This is different from the Xbox Series releases when Zen 2 was 1 year old and they were using the latest generation of graphics cards during 2020. Why do you think Microsoft would want to use hardware that would be last gen by release and why didn't they have this type of problem for the Xbox Series consoles?

Consoles as far as I am aware have never used cutting edge hardware (when compared with the best PC hardware). And to be honest, it doesn't have to because even a Zen 2 based PS5 for example, is still unpacking textures faster than the fastest CPU you have right now, plus, if the target resolution is high, we are more likely to run into GPU bottleneck first. And if you think like Zen 6 is bad, you just have to look back to previous gen consoles using the super slow Jaguar SOC from AMD that's even slower than the Intel Atom chips at that point in time. Yet, they game pretty well back then.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I would argue that gaming consoles became, and still are popular today for 2 main reasons. (1) More available games for the console

When was that the case? Unless you are ignoring all the games that are on PC only, the unlimited backwards compatibility on PC and the fact that you'd have to own all the consoles in a gen to get even close to the variety of the PC library.

Yeah, my bad!!! I worded that poorly. Long ago and far away, when gaming consoles first appeared back in the 1970s, the PC wasn't even really a thing. And when the IBM PC and then IBM "clones" came out, they were still primarily work/office/school computers. Gaming with PCs pretty much consisted of solitaire and chess and little more. Game consoles by Atari, Nintendo, or even Commodore ruled and had dozens, if not 100s of games available to them. It was several years later that PC gaming started to take off. Yes, there were games for the PC in early years, but PC gaming really didn't take off until the late 80s and early 90s.

So I was wrong to say that game consoles "today" have more available games. PC games today, easily rule the roost!

Sorry for any confusion I may have caused and thanks to Pumper for calling me out on it.

 

[SJZL 2.0]

I would recommend for everybody to quit it with the off topic discussions now.

 

[KLMR]

Why nobody talked about lead time?
Only one person suggested about "planning".

For a mass-production worldwide-launch product like this you need to work several years backward: platform defintion, providers, partners, stakeholders. Then you have to design it, produce prototypes, etc. How many years you need to prepare molds, get supplies, design pieces (electronics and not) and QA, then you have to distribute development platforms to developers to prepare first gen titles, etc. All the software development: SO, online platform, etc.
2-3 years? Not bad.

Maybe now we are used to this early-production-cycle but that doesn't mean most of its conceptualization started 24-36 months before. Its development and "slot" in the suppliers chain 24-12, its production 12-6 months before release. And that is with a very good and refined operations department.

People reads regularly TPU and haven't figured out yet how long it takes to bring a product like that to the market?

 

[JLBENEDICT]

You are comparing the console, when it is officially released with the current PC landscape.

When "Company ABC" decides to concept a console.. whatever the current tech is AT THAT time is used in the development ..
3, 4 , 5 years go by... and "Company ABC" releases "Get A Clue Series XXX" finally... but in your PCmaster race world... there have been 2-3 generations that have cycled by...
PC elite @$$hole chimes in various forums talking about how the "Get A Clue Series XXX" suxorz.. because it isn't same hardware as his Ryzen 69 1337xxxx @ 6900ghz that he just purchased...


* just my observations *