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Will having a 64-bit interface width affect performance on GT 1030 ?

SaberHosneyDev

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Exactly as the title says I'm gonna buy a new GT 1030 GPU but I read and some people told me 64-bit is a very bad choice to have compared to the 128-bit gtx 750ti , I don't mean the performance like FPS , I mean the screen and resolution and memory usage (since it's a 2GB)and stuff like this . will the width affect it ? I'm afriad to buy it , because someone told me buying this card will make my screen flicks , because I have analog display so I gonna buy a converter from DVI to VGA , this conversion with 64-bit gonna make the screen flicks .
 
Firstly DVI-D is whats on cards today. I havent seen a DVI-I port on a card in some time. 128/64 bit are how wide the memory lanes are, yes they do hamper performance but not enough to notice it. What matters is the gpu die, at higher resolutions and details ram does start mattering.

If anything you can review this video between a old mid range card (R9 280X/HD 7970) which is far less in price than a low end card(1050Ti)


Where are your system specs too?
 
with the GT 1030 I'd be more concerned about purchasing the one with GDDR5 than the older one with DDR4, because even with a reduced bandwith of 64, the newer revision will still outperform the older one that may come with a bandwidth of 128.

I actually own the msi 1030 OC (low profile) which runs an ultra wide LG monitor yet I've never seen any flickering or artifacting of any kind.
 
GT 1030 is the opposite, they were all GDDR5, then DDR4 ones got mixed in as well. It's not the GDDR5 ones that are newer. It pissed off many reviewers that praised the 1030 with GDDR5 and then saw the release of a massively inferior version mislead people.
 
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some people told me 64-bit is a very bad choice to have compared to the 128-bit gtx 750ti , I don't mean the performance like FPS , I mean the screen and resolution and memory usage (since it's a 2GB)and stuff like this . will the width affect it ? I'm afriad to buy it , because someone told me buying this card will make my screen flicks

These people are idiots. You can now safely ignore anything else they say about technology forever.

The performance of a video card depends on the graphics chip itself, as well as the memory it is connected to. 64-bit may be bad, or it may be good enough, and while more is typically better, it is not the case always.

With regards to the GT1030 - There are two versions, one uses DDR4 memory, the other GDDR5. You want to avoid the first one like the plague because the card is significantly worse than the one with GDDR5. However, the GT1030 tends to be expensive for what it is, and you can sometimes get an AMD RX460 or RX560 for the same price or cheaper. Those are are also significantly more powerful. A GTX750Ti is a much older card, and while still a decent choice when on a budget, is often as expensive as a faster RX460, especially if you are willing to buy used.

In any case, however, none of the will cause your screen to flicker.

A bit of a longer explanation if you want it: 64-bit vs 128-bit is not solely what is important. The bus width determines how much data can the video card access in a given time period, it is the width of the pipe. However, the second variable is the speed of the flow, or in the case of a video card, the speed of the memory. In other words, if we take 128-bit memory at a given clock speed, and compare it to another set of memory which is 64-bit but clocked twice faster, their effective bandwidth will be the same. This is a simplification, but a decent explanation.
 
Id like to see the system specs of this person so the cards going I can show what he is really getting out of both.
 
DVI-I is dead on the 1030. That means you can't just use a passive adapter as the DVI port is digital only. This may factor into your purchase.
 
If you're looking for a product to display an image on a screen, it'll work. It will even play video. I wouldn't expect much of anything in terms of gaming with it.
 
Try to find a 750Ti or 950 or 1050 instead.
 
Ali Express is known for selling some seriously sketchy shit.

Like, from them I'd half expect it to be a flashed 560.
 
Ali Express is known for selling some seriously sketchy shit.

Like, from them I'd half expect it to be a flashed 560.

Fake cards to be exact.
 
Exactly as the title says I'm gonna buy a new GT 1030 GPU but I read and some people told me 64-bit is a very bad choice to have compared to the 128-bit gtx 750ti
And that information is correct. 64bit memory bus for gaming is unacceptable these days. The bandwidth is very poor. Even 128bit should be avoided. A used GTX760 would be a much better selection and can be had for about $60 on ebay.
 
Eh, a 64 bit memory bus "is" bad, but I highly doubt it's the bottleneck on a 1030. Now, if my 1060 Max-Q in my laptop had a 64 bit bus instead of its 192 bit bus, I'm sure there'd be a very noticeable difference, but on a 1030, I doubt it matters, a 1030 really isn't intended for gaming anyway, it's a step above an integrated GPU, that's basically it.

ie. The 760 has a 256 bit bus, my 1060 Max-Q has a 192 bit bus, yet my 1060 Max-Q is substantially, more powerful, the bus is clearly not the bottleneck on the 760, and there's clearly no reason the 760 needed to have a 256 bit bus. That's not to say it would have been just as well off with a 64 bit, but it certainly didn't need 256 for its level of performance when far more powerful cards make do with less.
 
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Well the op hasn't returned so the thread is dead.
 
And that information is correct. 64bit memory bus for gaming is unacceptable these days. The bandwidth is very poor. Even 128bit should be avoided. A used GTX760 would be a much better selection and can be had for about $60 on ebay.
I know but it's not the point , I'm not getting it for a real gaming , like playing PUBG (Steam) or something I'm not even considering playing PES , I just play very old games like LeagueOfLegends and Paladins and some PUBG Mobile which I already been doing well with my previous card AMD readeon hd 6450 :)))) now you feel the difference between both 'em for me :)
 
I know but it's not the point , I'm not getting it for a real gaming , like playing PUBG (Steam) or something I'm not even considering playing PES , I just play very old games like LeagueOfLegends and Paladins and some PUBG Mobile which I already been doing well with my previous card AMD readeon hd 6450 :)))) now you feel the difference between both 'em for me :)

What are the system specs one of the 2 cards you are asking about is going in?
 
DVI-I is dead on the 1030. That means you can't just use a passive adapter as the DVI port is digital only. This may factor into your purchase.
Yeah I found out that all 1030 comes with DVI-D Duel-link , so I'm consider buying a converter from DVI-D Duel-link to VGA til I buy a new monitor with HDMI or DVI-D cable .

What are the system specs one of the 2 cards you are asking about is going in?
My current Specs
Core 2 duo e7600 3.06ghz
Ram : 4GB DDR2 I think
motherboard : Foxconn g31mxp
I knew the processor is going to bottleneck the GT 1030 for sure , but I'm gonna upgrade it to Core 2 Quad Q9650 , just not right away .

These people are idiots. You can now safely ignore anything else they say about technology forever.

The performance of a video card depends on the graphics chip itself, as well as the memory it is connected to. 64-bit may be bad, or it may be good enough, and while more is typically better, it is not the case always.

With regards to the GT1030 - There are two versions, one uses DDR4 memory, the other GDDR5. You want to avoid the first one like the plague because the card is significantly worse than the one with GDDR5. However, the GT1030 tends to be expensive for what it is, and you can sometimes get an AMD RX460 or RX560 for the same price or cheaper. Those are are also significantly more powerful. A GTX750Ti is a much older card, and while still a decent choice when on a budget, is often as expensive as a faster RX460, especially if you are willing to buy used.

In any case, however, none of the will cause your screen to flicker.

A bit of a longer explanation if you want it: 64-bit vs 128-bit is not solely what is important. The bus width determines how much data can the video card access in a given time period, it is the width of the pipe. However, the second variable is the speed of the flow, or in the case of a video card, the speed of the memory. In other words, if we take 128-bit memory at a given clock speed, and compare it to another set of memory which is 64-bit but clocked twice faster, their effective bandwidth will be the same. This is a simplification, but a decent explanation.
Thank you , Actually that was a very nice explanation , just what I needed , Thank you buddy <3 .

with the GT 1030 I'd be more concerned about purchasing the one with GDDR5 than the older one with DDR4, because even with a reduced bandwith of 64, the newer revision will still outperform the older one that may come with a bandwidth of 128.

I actually own the msi 1030 OC (low profile) which runs an ultra wide LG monitor yet I've never seen any flickering or artifacting of any kind.
Yeah I'm considering buying the DDR5 one , it has a significant performance compared to the DDR4, aam I'm new to this somehow , actually in my lifetime I only bought 1 GPU and the 1030 gonna be the second ,so any tips how to "maintain" it ? how to keep it safe ? I mean my older GPU got crashed or whatever happened cause the temperature went too high , so I liked that 1030 has a low temperature is that right ? I heard that there's a thermal paste , I use it for CPU so is it the same as GPU can I use it on it too or I need a custom one ?
 
but I highly doubt it's the bottleneck on a 1030
It is, there have been a few benchmarks on YT that have shown that it hurts performance. Something else to keep in mind is that the 64bit versions of the GT1030 are almost always DDR4(not GDDR4) instead of GDDR5. Turns out there are a lot of 64bit GDDR5 versions as well. Still, there are better cards, see below..
Generally, the average is between 25% to 35% difference.

@SaberHosneyDev
Give a serious look at the used market. For what you'd pay for a new GT1030 GDDR5 card you can get a GTX 760, GTX 770, Radeon RX460/560.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-760-PCI-e-P-N-02G-P4-3769-B6/392282747147
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-GEFOR...-GRAPHICS-CARD-GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5/183754645399
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-RX-460-2GB-Radeon-Used-Works-Perfectly/303136763326
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-XFX-AM...5-PCI-rx-560P4S/192899675171?epid=28004351156
 
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Ill show a list

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nv...-3-06ghz-vs-intel-core2-duo-e7600-3-06ghz/low

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nv...-phenom-ii-x4-965-vs-amd-phenom-ii-x4-965/low

Your motherboard being pre 2013 may not work with the 1030 due to uefi unless if foxconn has a bios update for it

And your cpu really wont bottleneck the 1030. Look at both links, the 1030 is just a potato.

Foxconn only has a 2011 bios update, your card options are very limited. You may consider a r9 280/280X.

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=motherboard&U=en-us0000416
 
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Everything equal to or below a GTX 1050 Ti (and the newly released GTX 1650), along with the RX 560 and below are a terrible value (cost-to-performance). Currently, the lowest priced GT 1030 is $5 above MSRP (Edit: They're supposed to sell for $79), excluding the terrible DDR4 variants.

If you have a decent power supply, you'd be far better off spending $35-45 (USD) more and bottlenecking the hell out of an AMD RX 570 (still the cost-to-performance champion and around 2-2.5x/200-250% better performance than a GT 1030 - Edit: Actually, according to TechPowerUp's relative performance chart, the RX 570 has a 371% performance advantage over the GT 1030, as seen below, for just 40-50% more money). That's just my opinion, for what it's worth.

Edit: Split into two paragraphs. Also, I agree with the people who have mentioned the idea of buying a used graphics card (I'd recommend nothing older than Nvidia's 600 Series or AMD's HD 7000 Series - 7730 and up - because all of those are still receiving driver updates).

GT 1030 vs. RX 570.PNG
 
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Everything equal to or below a GTX 1050 Ti (and the newly released GTX 1650), along with the RX 560 and below are a terrible value (cost-to-performance). Currently, the lowest priced GT 1030 is $5 above MSRP (excluding the terrible DDR4 variants). If you have a decent power supply, you'd be far better off spending $35-45 (USD) more and bottlenecking the hell out of an AMD RX 570 (still the cost-to-performance champion). That's just my opinion, for what it's worth.

Erm

This card is far better for value than a 1050ti
 
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