Will You Buy An RTX 4090?

TheoneandonlyMrK · Oct 11, 2022

arczi19 said:
Now that the reviews are out, it looks like your assumptions were incorrect - RTX 4090 has made massive strides towards efficiency.

12% @1080p ,31% at 4k and up to 470 watts at stock with RT on, yeah massive strides like 2/4X the performance.

Great.

Vayra86 · Oct 11, 2022

arczi19 said:
Now that the reviews are out, it looks like your assumptions were incorrect - RTX 4090 has made massive strides towards efficiency.

Ampere got shrinked and we get an equal amount of extra perf as efficiency gained. For 1600+

Yay? Peak power is still way beyond sane and its still a brick

R0H1T · Oct 11, 2022

arczi19 said:
Now that the reviews are out, it looks like your assumptions were incorrect - RTX 4090 has made massive strides towards efficiency.

Massive compared to what? Did you forget AMD also exists in the same universe :rolleyes:

GhostRyder · Oct 11, 2022

I am considering it heavily, I kept either waiting or not being able to purchase a card from last generation so decided to just wait. Big thing though I am waiting on is the RX 7900XT first to compare performance and price then decide (May also just get a RTX 4080).

Lei · Oct 11, 2022

GhostRyder said:
I am considering it heavily, I kept either waiting or not being able to purchase a card from last generation so decided to just wait. Big thing though I am waiting on is the RX 7900XT first to compare performance and price then decide (May also just get a RTX 4080).

AMD is perform to price/watt king. Nvidia is king of performance cap.
What you waiting for?

So cyberpunk is 43fps with rt on dlss off @4k. Not the 22fps Jensen showed
22fps is 3090. He was comparing dlss 3 of 4090 with no dlss of 3090 (weird, comparing lowest you can get from 3090, to highest you can get from 4090)

phanbuey · Oct 11, 2022

I mean $/performance it's actually not terrible given the last 2 years. Let's see this market drop tho.

GhostRyder · Oct 11, 2022

Lei said:
AMD is perform to price/watt king. Nvidia is king of performance cap.
What you waiting for?

So cyberpunk is 43fps with rt on dlss off @4k. Not the 22fps Jensen showed
22fps is 3090. He was comparing dlss 3 of 4090 with no dlss of 3090 (weird, comparing lowest you can get from 3090, to highest you can get from 4090)

I am waiting to see, yea I believe the RTX 4090 will probably hold the crown but by how much is what matters. If the 7900XT is sitting at same price point and is between the RTX 4080 and 4090, I will probably pick that up just for the fact its a better value overall. If it's seated at the 4080 and same price, well I will probably look at spending the extra and getting the 4090 or deciding if I am ok with the RTX 4080 performance range (Since we have not seen tests yet that remains to be seen).

Lei · Oct 11, 2022

GhostRyder said:
I am waiting to see, yea I believe the RTX 4090 will probably hold the crown but by how much is what matters. If the 7900XT is sitting at same price point and is between the RTX 4080 and 4090, I will probably pick that up just for the fact its a better value overall. If it's seated at the 4080 and same price, well I will probably look at spending the extra and getting the 4090 or deciding if I am ok with the RTX 4080 performance range (Since we have not seen tests yet that remains to be seen).

Get a 4090 now, scalp it, buy two 7900XT

Frizz · Oct 11, 2022

Quite a milestone in performance increase, its a hell yes from me, but definitely not any time soon

maxfly · Oct 11, 2022

4090 performance reaction :rockout:

4090 price reaction
:banghead:

Dr. Dro · Oct 11, 2022

Count von Schwalbe said:
Nope. Also, why TF does the 2070S have a USB-C (latest and greatest port) but the next two generation FLAGSHIPS do not?

USB-C was pushed as a connector for HMDs, apparently that didn't work out and they were dropped with Ampere. AMD supports them in some RDNA 2 designs, oddly enough.

AsRock · Oct 11, 2022

Nope, don't even have DP 2.0 on it which is like a big FU.

Lei · Oct 11, 2022

maxfly said:
4090 performance reaction
4090 price reaction

the price is good actually, except outside of US.

3090 was 9500 yuan, 4090 is 12500 yuan
30% increase

while in US, it's a 100$ increase which is 6%

Razrback16 · Oct 11, 2022

I voted Yes, Eventually - this will likely be in about 1.5-2 years when I can pick up a used one with a full cover waterblock on ebay for $800-1000.

arczi19 · Oct 11, 2022

Vayra86 said:
Ampere got shrinked and we get an equal amount of extra perf as efficiency gained. For 1600+

Yay? Peak power is still way beyond sane and its still a brick

Again, I'm not arguing about the price here.

I'm confused about the complaints of its size though - is having as small card as possible really a such a desirable feature? Something that produces a lot of heat should be cooled appropriately and according to the reviews it very much is. Do people also complain about the size of Noctuas or Dark Rock cpu coolers?

R0H1T said:
Massive compared to what? Did you forget AMD also exists in the same universe

I have a feeling you have misread this table - it is actually proving my point.

Gameslove · Oct 11, 2022

RTX 4090 you can playing max settings in 4K at least 4-5 years all upcoming modern games.

AusWolf · Oct 11, 2022

phanbuey said:
I mean $/performance it's actually not terrible given the last 2 years. Let's see this market drop tho.

Really?

arczi19 said:
I'm confused about the complaints of its size though - is having as small card as possible really a such a desirable feature?

Yes. Or at least small enough to fit into an average size chassis. Personally, I like placing as little weight on the PCI-e slot as possible and cooling-wise feasible.

arczi19 said:
Do people also complain about the size of Noctuas or Dark Rock cpu coolers?

That's one of the reasons why I prefer AIO liquid cooling.

P4-630 · Oct 11, 2022

Gameslove said:
RTX 4090 you can playing max settings in 4K at least 4-5 years all upcoming modern games.

Not if you play CP2077 with RT on....

phanbuey · Oct 11, 2022

AusWolf said:
Really?
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Yes. Or at least small enough to fit into an average size chassis. Personally, I like placing as little weight on the PCI-e slot as possible and cooling-wise feasible.

That's one of the reasons why I prefer AIO liquid cooling.

Those are MSRP... last 2 years good luck getting a GPU at MSRP.

Also 4K performance is on par with a 3090, and 6950xt even in current market.

AusWolf · Oct 11, 2022

phanbuey said:
Those are MSRP... last 2 years good luck getting a GPU at MSRP.

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Also 4K performance is on par with a 3090, and 6950xt even in current market.

We just discussed in this thread not too long ago that in the US, you can get a 6950 XT for $800. Even if the 4090 sells for MSRP (which is doubtful), AMD's got you covered for half the price (unless you really need that 4K+RT performance).

HaKN ! · Oct 11, 2022

The cheapest 4090 in Denmark is going for 2.5k USD , its insane !!!!!!

TheoneandonlyMrK · Oct 11, 2022

Still no.

P4-630 · Oct 11, 2022

HaKN ! said:
The cheapest 4090 in Denmark is going for 2.5k USD , its insane !!!!!!

Our prices for now NL Europe

lexluthermiester · Oct 11, 2022

ARF said:
This poll already exists

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Are you camping out / lining up for an RTX 4090? | TechPowerUp Forums

That was a question for camping out to buy one, not a question as to whether or not someone actually wants one. Context is a thing.

80-watt Hamster · Oct 11, 2022

HaKN ! said:
The cheapest 4090 in Denmark is going for 2.5k USD , its insane !!!!!!

Post-launch buying flurry pushing up prices. Happens every gen. It's how we identify those with more money than sense.

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Will You Buy An RTX 4090?

Will You Buy An RTX 4090?

Yes, on release even if I have to buy one from a scalper

Yes, on release if I can get one at close to MSRP

Yes, eventually

Maybe

No

Yes, I will buy one for other uses than gaming

TheoneandonlyMrK

Vayra86

R0H1T

GhostRyder

Lei

phanbuey

GhostRyder

Lei

Frizz

maxfly

Dr. Dro

AsRock

TPU addict

Lei

Razrback16

arczi19

Gameslove

AusWolf

P4-630

phanbuey

AusWolf

HaKN !

TheoneandonlyMrK

P4-630

lexluthermiester

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