Windows 11 General Discussion

Kodehawa · Mar 1, 2023

Is the taskbar on the newest build smaller or is it me?

theFOoL · Mar 2, 2023

What you mean?

Kodehawa · Mar 2, 2023

theFOoL said:
What you mean?

Feels like its a few pixels shorter. Just a hunch, idk why it feels smaller to me.

theFOoL · Mar 2, 2023

Hmm maybe but doubtful bc I'm using open shell with my windows 7 start menu icon though my Taskbar network monitor doesn't appear to show up and tends to "not responding" the Taskbar so I had to Uninstall the monitor for now. Works with windows 10 no doubt and 11 without the ep

Super Firm Tofu · Mar 2, 2023

Kodehawa said:
Feels like its a few pixels shorter. Just a hunch, idk why it feels smaller to me.

They made some changes. The pinned icons have more spacing to them. And now that you mention it, it does look shorter...

ThrashZone · Mar 2, 2023

theFOoL said:
Hmm maybe but doubtful bc I'm using open shell with my windows 7 start menu icon though my Taskbar network monitor doesn't appear to show up and tends to "not responding" the Taskbar so I had to Uninstall the monitor for now. Works with windows 10 no doubt and 11 without the ep

Hi,
Explorer patcher has an update posted

Releases · valinet/ExplorerPatcher

This project aims to enhance the working environment on Windows - valinet/ExplorerPatcher

github.com

I haven't installed it yet seeing I'm not having any issues atm and won't install the newest malware "security update" for a couple months probably
I'll wait and see what Brink comes up with in regard to removing/ turning off the new bloatware I'm not interested in ever using

NYCKrash · Mar 2, 2023

I am frustrated with Windows 11. I have attempted to use that OS on four separate occasions and each time have the same problem. Whenever I would click on the file explorer icon in the taskbar the entire explorer app would reboot.

Until I can sort out what the problem is without me having to clear the cache to use it accurately...Ill stick with windows 10.

Kodehawa · Mar 2, 2023

I've never seen that issue. Interesting.

NYCKrash · Mar 2, 2023

Kodehawa said:
I've never seen that issue. Interesting.

What is nuts is it does it on my desktop as well as my laptop. There has to be something else running contributing to this problem, yet I cannot seem to find the issue at all. I have tried a clean install, I have tried an upgrade. There are some videos about fixes and how to stop it, however whenever the computer comes out of sleep or reboots for an update or whatever, it happens all over again.

I wish I knew what the problem was so I could fix it once and for all.

outpt · Mar 2, 2023

Kodehawa said:
Is the taskbar on the newest build smaller or is it me?

It’s smaller. Use to be I would have to take off my glasses because it was to large.

R-T-B · Mar 2, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Explorer patcher has an update posted

Releases · valinet/ExplorerPatcher

This project aims to enhance the working environment on Windows - valinet/ExplorerPatcher

github.com

I haven't installed it yet seeing I'm not having any issues atm and won't install the newest malware "security update" for a couple months probably
I'll wait and see what Brink comes up with in regard to removing/ turning off the new bloatware I'm not interested in ever using

Nice, thought he was gone for good.

Kodehawa · Mar 2, 2023

outpt said:
It’s smaller. Use to be I would have to take off my glasses because it was to large.

Can anyone measure the task bar on the older build? It's 47 pixels tall on 22621.1344

EDIT: 48 pixels tall on last version. Literally a single pixel smaller!

Robn2dogs · Mar 2, 2023

Just did a work around for win 11. My processer wasn't supported. Laptop Toshiba Intel i5, 5200u. has 16GB of DDR3 and a SSD 850 Pro.
Just now am finishing the downloading of 2023-02 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5022913). So far it seems that MS is giving me the updates as they would normally to everyone.

P4-630 · Mar 2, 2023

Robn2dogs said:
Just did a work around for win 11. My processer wasn't supported. Laptop Toshiba Intel i5, 5200u. has 16GB of DDR3 and a SSD 850 Pro.
Just now am finishing the downloading of 2023-02 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5022913). So far it seems that MS is giving me the updates as they would normally to everyone.

Seeing any of this: ?

Installed Windows 11 with TPM Disabled? Expect an Ugly Watermark on the Desktop

Users of Windows 11 on "unsupported hardware" report that since the most recent Patch Tuesday (monthly) Cumulative Update, an ugly watermark message began appearing on the Windows Desktop screen for the Windows 11 22H2 Update operating system. The bottom-right corner has a permanently-overlaid...

www.techpowerup.com

tabascosauz · Mar 2, 2023

Kodehawa said:
View attachment 286130

Can anyone measure the task bar on the older build? It's 47 pixels tall on 22621.1344

EDIT: 48 pixels tall on last version. Literally a single pixel smaller!

Are you sure? No change here. 60px before 60px after, on 125% scale.

P4-630 said:
Seeing any of this: ?

Installed Windows 11 with TPM Disabled? Expect an Ugly Watermark on the Desktop

Users of Windows 11 on "unsupported hardware" report that since the most recent Patch Tuesday (monthly) Cumulative Update, an ugly watermark message began appearing on the Windows Desktop screen for the Windows 11 22H2 Update operating system. The bottom-right corner has a permanently-overlaid...

www.techpowerup.com

I'm pretty sure you will never see this message if you made your ISO with Rufus, as it's had the remove hardware requirements feature since forever.

Kodehawa · Mar 2, 2023

tabascosauz said:
Are you sure? No change here. 60px before 60px after, on 125% scale.

I'm pretty sure you will never see this message if you made your ISO with Rufus, as it's had the remove hardware requirements feature since forever.

As sure as I can be with an on-screen ruler, at least (the one on PowerToys). So not 100%.

tabascosauz · Mar 2, 2023

Kodehawa said:
As sure as I can be with an on-screen ruler, at least (the one on PowerToys). So not 100%.

The 11 taskbar has a 1px grey border that is difficult to see on a light coloured window/background, but is always there. In your screenshot the ruler does not cover the 1px border.

Still 48px on mine including the 1px border.

Kodehawa · Mar 2, 2023

tabascosauz said:
The 11 taskbar has a 1px grey border that is difficult to see on a light coloured window/background, but is always there. In your screenshot the ruler does not cover the 1px border.

Ah, maybe because it's another UI element to the ruler. I wonder why it *feels* shorter, though.

tabascosauz · Mar 2, 2023

Kodehawa said:
Ah, maybe because it's another UI element to the ruler. I wonder why it *feels* shorter, though.

I did have to take off my glasses and glue my face to the screen to tell though, I stretched a line not the UI tool

Rolled back the update to check, yep still 60px including the border.

Robn2dogs · Mar 2, 2023

P4-630 said:
Seeing any of this: ?

Installed Windows 11 with TPM Disabled? Expect an Ugly Watermark on the Desktop

Users of Windows 11 on "unsupported hardware" report that since the most recent Patch Tuesday (monthly) Cumulative Update, an ugly watermark message began appearing on the Windows Desktop screen for the Windows 11 22H2 Update operating system. The bottom-right corner has a permanently-overlaid...

www.techpowerup.com

Not yet. Fingers crossed. Plus I haven't disabled tpm.

Kodehawa · Mar 3, 2023

tabascosauz said:
I did have to take off my glasses and glue my face to the screen to tell though, I stretched a line not the UI tool

Rolled back the update to check, yep still 60px including the border.

Maybe its just the different font and search design making it feel a bit smaller. It is weird tho, I've talked to a few people and they all say it feels a little shorter.

outpt · Mar 3, 2023

2560x1440 100% scale just looks “smaller” who knows

Kodehawa · Mar 3, 2023

outpt said:
2560x1440 100% scale just looks “smaller” who knows

Yeah same, 1440p 100% scale.

Shou Miko · Mar 3, 2023

Shou Miko said:
Microsoft is brewing something because it's a good business for them, but we properly won't see anything that looks like a LTSC version until 2025 at latest.

My guess will be properly spring time there will be a food note from the ninja cat team about something that could be a code for LTSC.

Hmm if this is true than we might not see a LTSC version of Win11

View attachment oPkaNXJFQA9YqweQEoSCvX-970-80.jpg.webp

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-12-meteor-lake-leak-2024

ThrashZone · Mar 4, 2023

tabascosauz said:
I'm pretty sure you will never see this message if you made your ISO with Rufus, as it's had the remove hardware requirements feature since forever.

Hi,
Not really ms does checks all the time for updates/ drivers/...
Rufus just does it's magic to get you installed after that, it starts all over again

Pretty much every large update will fail if checks are done again so you'd have to do more bypass magic one way or another.
I pretty much just mount the iso and yeah rufus is the easiest way to prepare the iso for that I've found :cool:

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