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Editorial Windows 8.1, and Why You Should Let Go of Windows 7

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I'm going to stick with 7(even though I got 8 for 15 bucks)

this article convince me not:shadedshu
 
Derek12 said:
When someone recurres to insulting or using childish derogatory terms (Windows 8 is junk, retarded, trash, etc...), 0 arguments.

The fad of insulting Windows 8 and its users must die.
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A little tongue-in-cheek jab at those who have berated and derided me for not blindly accepting Microsoft's ill-conceived latest iteration of Windows does not sit so well with you?

Interesting...
 
riffraffy said:
Hey ...I think you're on to something , maybe they wanted to sell more windows 7's .
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As long as people keep buying and using their software, I doubt they really mind.

They still have you by the balls.
 
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Side note: Making condescending topics, about people who simply do not share your OPINION. Is not a good way to make your point. If anything, even more people won't want to use it now.


Ikaruga said:
, so who knows how this will turn out.
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This guy knows because it has happened for the last 20+ years..
Like DX 10 and DX11, this new feature will not even start to be used for another 5 years.. So why bother?
Idk why people have such a hard time admitting the plain and obvious truth. Win 8 offers virtually no performance increase at all, does nothing for games and pays little attention to who is actually using the PC..

Let go of win 7 to embrace this joke of an OS?
Chea.. Not....lol..
I don't just give my money away for new products, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE NEW.
Fan boys do that..

Honestly this topic screams "I am fanboy, hear me roar"..
Well have fun with win 8 all you want. I do not care.
Just like no one should care about my preference, Because it is MY preference..
 
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D007 said:
Side note: Making condescending topics, about people who simply do not share your OPINION. Is not a good way to make your point. If anything, even more people won't want to use it now.
Bravo.
PS: Windows 8 sucks..



This guy knows because it has happened for the last 20+ years..
Like DX 10 and DX11, this new feature will not even start to be used for another 5 years.. So why bother?
Idk why people have such a hard time admitting the plain and obvious truth. Win 8 offers virtually no performance increase at all, does nothing for games and pays little attention to who is actually using the PC..

Let go of win 7 to embrace this joke of an OS?
Chea.. Not....lol..
I don't just give my money away for new products, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE NEW.
Fan boys do that..

Honestly this topic screams "I am fanboy, hear me roar"..
Well have fun with win 8 all you want. I do not care.
Just like no one should care about my preference, Because it is MY preference.. Not yours..
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Words of wisdom. Pretty much sums it all up.
 
My Windows 8.1 VM. :)

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Still got my cob webbed copy of Windows 8 on my shelf from a friend, who had a copy, which he got stocked up with. I might get 8,1 when it comes out, but I wanna be sure it'll work with my music apps.

I like how they managed the metro menu through a transparant windows, something I really hoped for since the last time I tried Windows 8. Anyone testing it with apps like Pro Tools?
 
Deadlyraver said:
Still got my cob webbed copy of Windows 8 on my shelf from a friend, who had a copy, which he got stocked up with. I might get 8,1 when it comes out, but I wanna be sure it'll work with my music apps.

I like how they managed the metro menu through a transparant windows, something I really hoped for since the last time I tried Windows 8. Anyone testing it with apps like Pro Tools?
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I can right now if you want me too on my VM and let you know.

EDIT: NVM looks like it says on the website Pro Tools 11 HD is not supported with Windows 8.
 
been using 8.1 today on my laptop. So far, I still prefer 7. I really do not like the look or style of metro or the new start menu.
 
Admitting, it is inevitable that we all gotta move to 8.1 or 8 someday. I think I can live with Windows 8 as long as the software industry catches up to it.
 
I'm setup to boot to the desktop..
On the Desktop I installed a program called "Shutdown8" which gives you a power button on the desktop quick launch section
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When you want access like the classic start menu simply hit the new start menu button on the bottom left...you can access everything by clicking the down arrow


Which brings you to all apps just like the old start button but with an expanded view
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Now if you don't wanna go through the process of hitting an extra button simply right click on the app you want and pin it to the apps page....

That took me less than one minute to figure out...I simply find all the whining about the OS unwarranted.

My Apps page...where the new start button takes you
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I just found another annoyance. You can't run any Metro apps under the administrator account! WTF is that?!

jmcslob said:
I simply find all the whining about the OS unwarranted.
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You obviously haven't been paying attention.
 
newtekie1 said:
I just found another annoyance. You can't run any Metro apps under the administrator account! WTF is that?!



You obviously haven't been paying attention.
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I've been paying attention...and when 8 came out I didn't care for it...8.1 is improved and I think people are doing the whole "I'm not gonna switch from XP cause I fear change and can't be bothered with taking 5 minutes of my time to learn a new process" which btw is just as good and even a little better than the old one....

I get it everyone feels they are being forced into something they aren't comfortable with and they are not...It runs just like Win 7 imo with an easier to use and setup start function that is metro...


You don't have to use metro as is...You can change it to suit your needs and that is a very simply process.

I actually think Metro is a good GUI that takes the best of Windows 7 and Windows 7 Media Center and combines them...Take metro and an Android device ad pair them with Unified remote or an Xbox controller and you have an excellent HTPC...

Again I didn't like 8 but 8.1 isn't 8 its what 8 should have been.
 
Last time I'll post about win8... it's unintuitive, it takes multiple more strokes or clicks to do the same job. I keep hearing about alt-clicking this, and then click on this, when I can do that with 1 click under win7. I don't have a touch screen, I find the metro gui very pointless. Even with classicshell installed, I find win7 faster and more intelligent to work with. I don't need a friggin app store on start up, how is that helpful? If they want to "soften" the interface for mainstreams users, fine, but let us power users have the same access to the os that we are used to. I'll walk by this like I did with Vista. Rant over.....
 
jmcslob said:
I actually think Metro is a good GUI that takes the best of Windows 7 and Windows 7 Media Center and combines them
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Last I checked MS is making you PAY for Media Center, either by upgrading with the Pro pack or by buying Pro, and then you can buy Media Center. Has that changed? They only offered Media Center for free in the first couple months.

I think I'll just stick with Media Center in my HTPC currently, included for free on my W7 x64, which works spectacularly.
 
rtwjunkie said:
Last I checked MS is making you PAY for Media Center, either by upgrading with the Pro pack or by buying Pro, and then you can buy Media Center. Has that changed? They only offered Media Center for free in the first couple months.

I think I'll just stick with Media Center in my HTPC currently, included for free on my W7 x64, which works spectacularly.
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You don't need it...Just download what you want and pin it to metro, VLC, Netflix, Hulu, BluRay apps, TV Tuner card programs etc...
The only thing I can think of the WMC does that you can't do without it is stream from your Xbox.
 
jmcslob said:
You don't need it
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Unless you're streaming movies from your server to HTPC using MyMovies which integrates perfectly with MC. I'm not gonna mess with what works.

But I do thank you for the good info on those other programs that could come in handy if when I test the media properties on my W8 testbed!
 
This is what I see in these post.....And its true :laugh:

Windows 7 user = Lazy Asses that want one or 2 clicks to do anything

Windows 8 Users= Guys who like to use new OS features and find ways around Metro and Like to work their ASSES off.

So If i was to hire someone Based on IT experience and Computer Knowledge what group would I pick ,It sure as hell would not be someone that is a desk checker........

Hey i`m sorry but that is what you 7 users are saying to us,So don`t be mad about it... It is 100% true and your mad because it is.

And I forgot to Say this Windows 8.1 is a SERVICE PACK 1.......hence the .1 have fun in Windows7 ........
 
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jmcslob said:
I've been paying attention...and when 8 came out I didn't care for it...8.1 is improved and I think people are doing the whole "I'm not gonna switch from XP cause I fear change and can't be bothered with taking 5 minutes of my time to learn a new process" which btw is just as good and even a little better than the old one....

I get it everyone feels they are being forced into something they aren't comfortable with and they are not...It runs just like Win 7 imo with an easier to use and setup start function that is metro...


You don't have to use metro as is...You can change it to suit your needs and that is a very simply process.

I actually think Metro is a good GUI that takes the best of Windows 7 and Windows 7 Media Center and combines them...Take metro and an Android device ad pair them with Unified remote or an Xbox controller and you have an excellent HTPC...

Again I didn't like 8 but 8.1 isn't 8 its what 8 should have been.
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Awesome, so when I'm watching a movie and want to run another program, I can't watch the movie anymore. That definitely makes a great HTPC all right...NOT. That isn't better, and frankly there is no reason for it. There is absolutely no reason the Start Screen has to take up the entire screen if I don't want it to.

Furthermore, all that customization takes time, for me it took over an hour on a new install when I installed 8.1. Over an hour just to get a usable start menu, because after installed the roughly 75 programs and games I always install on every one of my personal computers, I then had to wade through a simply massive start menu filled with probably 100+ entries that I'll never use to pick out the actual programs and then pin them to the start screen. All this was not required at all on the classic style start menu. It isn't about learning a new process, it is about the new processing being less efficient for no real improvement.

And what does Metro really bring as an improvement? Live tiles...and...and...NOTHING. Why can't we just use the desktop gadgets to get that functionality...oh wait we could, but not in Win8 because desktop gadgets have been remove.:ohwell:
 
newtekie1 said:
Awesome, so when I'm watching a movie and want to run another program, I can't watch the movie anymore. That definitely makes a great HTPC all right...NOT. That isn't better, and frankly there is no reason for it. There is absolutely no reason the Start Screen has to take up the entire screen if I don't want it to.

Furthermore, all that customization takes time, for me it took over an hour on a new install when I installed 8.1. Over an hour just to get a usable start menu, because after installed the roughly 75 programs and games I always install on every one of my personal computers, I then had to wade through a simply massive start menu filled with probably 100+ entries that I'll never use to pick out the actual programs and then pin them to the start screen. All this was not required at all on the classic style start menu. It isn't about learning a new process, it is about the new processing being less efficient for no real improvement.

And what does Metro really bring as an improvement? Live tiles...and...and...NOTHING. Why can't we just use the desktop gadgets to get that functionality...oh wait we could, but not in Win8 because desktop gadgets have been remove.:ohwell:
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And no shadow copy. They removed shit that worked. M$ can eat shit and die.
 
This makes me laugh out Loud

Why fix an already working and fine system like windows 7

Simple answer more ££££ $$$$ to Microsoft

Thanks but no thank you I am staying with windows 7 x64 does the job for my needs
windows 8.1 can suck eggs for awhile let them iron all the little bugs out of it......


Needless to say Microsoft will not stop at win8.1 its gona continue like a bad series with many seasons like what next windows 9 Black edition or maybe open source on the older systems like millennium and XP....
 
H82LUZ73 said:
So If i was to hire someone Based on IT experience and Computer Knowledge what group would I pick ,It sure as hell would not be someone that is a desk checker........
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You'd pick the Win 7 group, because those are the guys that save you money with every task. :) They are the guys that want a streamlined interface, an interface that offers everything for power users and the basic newbs.

I know Change is the biggest problem with people when you're implementing a new system, but if, after a year, people are still complaining, the " change" probably isn't the problem and you should really look at why the hell you pushed that new system in the first place.

Yay, I bought a new OS, I need to buy extra software to get functionality back that the Old OS had and the new system lacks in intuitiveness, flexibility and control. Oh yeah, the users are the problem ;)

That's the experience of a real IT guy :)

M$ had to learn with Millenium as well, they had a superb OS with Windows NT already.
I ran NT 4 in dual-boot with Win95 and loved it a lot, except it was lacking in DirectX support. Microsoft actually had a very, very good OS with NT 5 and although they did skip some things in 2000, it wasn't bad at all.
 
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