• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

Windows 8.1, and Why You Should Let Go of Windows 7

Joined
Jul 24, 2007
Messages
193 (0.05/day)
Likes
37
Yeah yeah, M$, keep your toys'r'us SO to yourself, grow a pair and recognize you are not Apple. Nobody wants the full M$ toddler's device experience, and you have no pack of million brainwashed fans (maybe console ones, but that changed a bit lately, right? Who knows why...) Apple can even sell a buttscratcher with their logo on it...
M$ might be going to the gutter and I can't say it's not deserved...

Too bad Linux gaming is still lagging behind, otherwise Windows would be really on free fall (even more than now)... IE effect all over again. Fingers crossed for Valve/Steam... PCGA could also do something about it if they actually did something for a change, but anyway... probably there are other intere$ts involved.

Let's at least hope Ballmer takes some extended vacations soon.
Look, you can have your opinion all you want but, I think this is one of the stupidest arguments I hear on the internet all the time. Right, I am going to run out and rebuy all my games just so I can run them on Linux if I could. :shadedshu:wtf::rolleyes: Windows is successful because it works well and has excellent backwards compatibility.

I like Linux and all other Operating systems as well but, Windows is still the most popular and often the best solution, hands down. But, if you want to rebuy all your games, go for it. (I am sure the profit managers will thank you.) :slap:
 
Joined
Jul 24, 2007
Messages
193 (0.05/day)
Likes
37
That was a waste of reading time.

If you think MS should be Apple, you can agree that 8 and 8.1 are a reasonable step forward. They can introduce a marketplace that they control, force developers to pay for the ability to be featured on their store, then make a GUI homogenization that customers demonstrably don't want. All of this offers "better stability and a more unified experience" from device to device.

In a perfect world, this sounds great. In reality, Windows phone became Windows everything. Homogenization for the sake of homogenization is stupid. Minor performance increases (which the article concedes are chipped away by less than useful widgets), an as yet unused directx variant, and quicker booting are not worth the extra expense. People are telling MS this by not buying it, but they want to find a different answer.

Despite this evidence, you praise MS for an as yet unreleased OS. To judge without any concrete evidence is hubris. The community may be beta testing, but this means nothing about the final OS. Blindly accepting whatever we get, and praising the "gift" we have been given, is stupid.



To the author; wow. You have often dabbled into the area of a corporate sales person. It has been tolerable, but this tears it. You write from a bias that is not informative. The reason I read an editorial is that the author instills value into their opinions. As you don't explicitly offer why I should give a damn about your words in the article, I have to rely on your track record. For every informative point you've made in the past week you've written a corresponding article blatantly praising a company without any thought. Fluff pieces for the sake of pushing an agenda do not warrant my attention to your opinions. Perhaps you can provide something substantive, but your track record indicates otherwise.

To whit, your article is fluff. It deserves the responses it is getting, as the title is troll baiting 101. I'm done reading your work until editorial credibility can be established.
Promise? I see that because he does not write something you can agree with, it is troll bait? LOL. Well, I actually appreciated what he had to say but then again, I do not get all bent out of shape over an OS like I used to 10 years ago. :laugh:
 
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
84 (0.05/day)
Likes
10
For me, the biggest showstopper with Windows 8 isn't the Start Menu (there are, after all, several third-party utilities that bring this back). It's the fact that for some inexplicable reason, they decided to center the title bar text! This sounds like a small thing, but during the few times I tried to use Windows 8, it was the one thing I found most persistently annoying. I've been using Windows since the Win95 era, and my eyes are used to looking for the title bar text on the left. Now, for some reason, they've decided to go back to the 3.1 era and center the text. Centered text may look nicer in screenshots, but it's slower to read since you don't have a fixed position to start!

Also, the new desktop theme is much uglier than Aero. I know they may have designed it to reduce the GPU load on portable devices, but I have a desktop system with a decent video card, so why can't I have an option to turn back on the much nicer-looking Aero effects?

For that matter, since Windows has been capable of theming since the XP era, why does Microsoft insist on locking it down? The engine is fully capable of allowing custom display themes, but only those digitally signed by MS will run, unless you hack a DLL. There's no good reason for this. If the entire UI was customizable (perhaps through XAML), then most of the objections to Windows 8 would melt away, since users could make it look however they wanted and felt most comfortable with.
 

trickson

OH, I have such a headache
Joined
Dec 5, 2004
Messages
6,486 (1.36/day)
Likes
927
Location
Planet Earth.
Processor Q9650
Motherboard Gigabyte.
Cooling air.
Memory 4gb kingston
Video Card(s) hd 5870
Software win7 64 bit
One thing I know I do not like is the pictograph crap. Just what the hell? I mean talk about dumbing down. Really? Plain cheep generic Pictographs? Why is it they just didn't leave every thing alone? Couldn't they just have some how integrated all the touch options needed for any OS as a "Patch" and also put out this POS at the same time? Making it possible for every user to just go out buy up a touch screen and plug it in to your CURRENT desktop (Or other devices) And have fun? NO! They have to make it so much better for every one. I just feel smarter than the rest of the world when I use every thing from Microsoft up to now. It's like the IQ of every one just dropped 150 points. And to top it off people are loving it! It looks like the world is really turning into the Movie Idiocracy.
Plain cheep looking Pictographs. Really? :wtf::wtf:
 
Joined
Aug 30, 2006
Messages
6,374 (1.55/day)
Likes
983
System Name ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH
Processor Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5472
Memory 2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card(s) HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3400
Display(s) 2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2
Software Windows Server 2003 R2 as a Workstation now migrated to W10 with regrets.
Slow news day. Raining. Nothing worth playing... EDITORIAL ;)
 

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
34,335 (9.23/day)
Likes
17,427
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name Long shelf-life potato
Processor Intel Core i7-4770K
Motherboard ASUS Z97-A
Cooling Xigmatek Aegir CPU Cooler
Memory 16GB Kingston HyperX Beast DDR3-1866
Video Card(s) 2x GeForce GTX 970 SLI
Storage ADATA SU800 512GB
Display(s) Samsung U28D590D 28-inch 4K
Case Cooler Master CM690 Window
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D PCIe
Power Supply Corsair HX850W
Mouse Razer Abyssus 2014
Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Software Windows 10 Pro Creators Update
Joined
May 24, 2007
Messages
4,715 (1.22/day)
Likes
354
Location
Tennessee
System Name AM3+
Processor AMD FX-8350 @ 4715.73 MHz (23.5*200.63 MHz)
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Cooling AMD 8150 Factory Water Cooler
Memory Corsair XMS3 16 GB 1333 MHz PC3-10666 240-Pin DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS ROG MATRIX-R9290X-P-4GD5 Radeon R9 290X 4GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
Storage SanDisk Ultra II 480GB, INTEL SS DSC2BW240A4, Western Digital WDC WD50 00AAKX-003CA0
Display(s) Acer S211HL bd 21.5-Inch Widescreen Ultra-Slim LED Display - Black
Case COOLER MASTER Elite 335 Upgraded RC-335U-KKN1 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Power Supply Corsair RM Series 850 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified Power Supply - CP-9020056-NA RM850
Software Windows 10.0 Pro 64 Bit
A decade from now all of the people complaining about the Windows 8 format will have adopted it and will then complain when they change the format again.
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,370 (5.50/day)
Likes
9,511
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
A decade from now all of the people complaining about the Windows 8 format will have adopted it and will then complain when they change the format again.
If it aint broke, fix it until it is?
 
Joined
Apr 16, 2009
Messages
219 (0.07/day)
Likes
78
Processor Phenom II X4 965 BE @4 GHz | NB @2600 MHz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 2x 8GB PC12800 @1600 MHz CL7 1T
Video Card(s) Gigabyte HD 7950
Storage 2 x 500 GB -- HD502HJ & WD5000AACS-00ZUB0
Display(s) Iiyama Prolite E2202WS_WVS
Case Corsair Obsidian 550D
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar D2 w/ Z-5500
Power Supply Seasonic X-750
Mouse Logitech B100
Keyboard Logitech G15 (blue backlight)
Software Windows 7 - SP1 x64
I like Linux and all other Operating systems as well but, Windows is still the most popular and often the best solution, hands down. But, if you want to rebuy all your games, go for it. (I am sure the profit managers will thank you.) :slap:
Next thing you know is you're gonna tell us Linux needs video and sound files to be converted in order for them to play?

Don't laugh just yet, guys — I've actually had someone tell me they were afraid of using Linux because of us supposedly needing to convert files...

You don't need to buy games a second time for them to run under Linux. They only need a Linux installer and your games will work under Linux (that is the case for UT2004 and Prey). Then, there are games on Steam or on gog.com that run natively under Linux.

Now, granted, the list isn't that long, but in no way we are required to buy a game a second time.

Tell you what, I don't think you actually like Linux as much as you say you do.


so which Linux versions is best? I hear Linux mint good?
I once tried Mint, but didn't like the desktop environment. I think it was cinnamon or something. Well, I ended up trying Manjaro, and it's been nothing but great. It's basically Archlinux (a very powerful distro), only for human beings. People who've tried Archlinux before will know what I'm talking about...

Feel free to ask me more on Manjaro. I think it's great that some of us are interested in other operating systems. :)
 
Joined
Feb 14, 2012
Messages
1,682 (0.79/day)
Likes
578
System Name msdos
Processor 8088
Motherboard mainboard
Cooling passive
Memory 640KB + 384KB extended
Video Card(s) EGA
Storage 5.25"
Display(s) 80x25
Case plastic
Audio Device(s) modchip
Power Supply 45 watts
Mouse serial
Keyboard yes
Software disk commander
Benchmark Scores still running
The first paragraph sets up a false basis that all of us ran out and bought ipads and tablets, and/or approved that it was a positive change away from computers with keyboards. I know multiple people that have postponed buying a new laptop because they don't want Win8.
 
Joined
Jul 24, 2007
Messages
193 (0.05/day)
Likes
37
Next thing you know is you're gonna tell us Linux needs video and sound files to be converted in order for them to play?

Don't laugh just yet, guys — I've actually had someone tell me they were afraid of using Linux because of us supposedly needing to convert files...

You don't need to buy games a second time for them to run under Linux. They only need a Linux installer and your games will work under Linux (that is the case for UT2004 and Prey). Then, there are games on Steam or on gog.com that run natively under Linux.

Now, granted, the list isn't that long, but in no way we are required to buy a game a second time.

Tell you what, I don't think you actually like Linux as much as you say you do.




I once tried Mint, but didn't like the desktop environment. I think it was cinnamon or something. Well, I ended up trying Manjaro, and it's been nothing but great. It's basically Archlinux (a very powerful distro), only for human beings. People who've tried Archlinux before will know what I'm talking about...

Feel free to ask me more on Manjaro. I think it's great that some of us are interested in other operating systems. :)
Oh cool, so ALL my steam games, origin games, boxed games, gamefly games, greenmangaming games, Good old Gaming Games, Gamestop digital games and other digital download games will all play on Linux natively out of the box for free, great! :laugh: Yes, if you want a Linux version of a game, lets say the original Crysis, you will have to buy it again. (Of course, there will never be a native Crysis for Linux anyways so that point is only hypothetical anyways.)

I like all OSes but I am going to use what is best for the job. For gaming, that is windows. (Windows is best for the job in many other areas as well but, we were speaking of gaming at this point.)
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2010
Messages
1,715 (0.60/day)
Likes
408
System Name Eldritch
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 1500X
Motherboard MSI B350 PC Mate
Cooling Satan's butthole after going to Taco Bell
Memory 16 GB G.Skill Flare X
Video Card(s) nVidia (Gigabyte) GT 740 2GB
Storage 80 GB IBM, 2 TB WD Green
Display(s) Dell 2007WFP
Software Debian Buster
We need to be able to sage threads.
 
Joined
Jul 13, 2008
Messages
269 (0.08/day)
Likes
105
Location
Directly above the center of the Earth
System Name WTF it actually turns on!
Processor AMD FX-8350
Motherboard MSI 990fxa-gd80
Cooling Raystorm swiftech mcp655 xspc dual bay res Rx240 Rs240
Memory 16gb ddr3 1600
Video Card(s) Power color R9 280x
Storage 2x1tb+2x2tb seagates
Display(s) 27" Samsung S27B350H
Case Tt core v51
Power Supply CORSAIR GS700
I'm so pleased with win 8.x That I would like to give every microsoft employee that worked on it a new car. That car would be equipped with a four-way joystick instead of a steering wheel and extralarge dumbed down win3.11 looking icons on the dash.
 

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder
Joined
Nov 22, 2005
Messages
24,277 (5.51/day)
Likes
10,367
Location
Indiana, USA
Processor Intel Core i7 4790K@4.6GHz
Motherboard AsRock Z97 Extreme6
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 32GB Corsair DDR3-1866 9-10-9-27
Video Card(s) ASUS GTX960 STRIX @ 1500/1900
Storage 480GB Crucial MX200 + 2TB Seagate Solid State Hybrid Drive with 128GB OCZ Synapse SSD Cache
Display(s) QNIX QX2710 1440p@120Hz
Case Corsair 650D Black
Audio Device(s) Onboard is good enough for me
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
I'm so pleased with win 8.x That I would like to give every microsoft employee that worked on it a new car. That car would be equipped with a four-way joystick instead of a steering wheel and extralarge dumbed down win3.11 looking icons on the dash.
And every time you turn on the turn signal a screen pops up and completely blocks the windshield.
 
Joined
Jul 13, 2008
Messages
269 (0.08/day)
Likes
105
Location
Directly above the center of the Earth
System Name WTF it actually turns on!
Processor AMD FX-8350
Motherboard MSI 990fxa-gd80
Cooling Raystorm swiftech mcp655 xspc dual bay res Rx240 Rs240
Memory 16gb ddr3 1600
Video Card(s) Power color R9 280x
Storage 2x1tb+2x2tb seagates
Display(s) 27" Samsung S27B350H
Case Tt core v51
Power Supply CORSAIR GS700
And every time you turn on the turn signal a screen pops up and completely blocks the windshield.
Shouldn't be giving them all the extra options next thing you know they will want a push to start button.
 
Joined
Jun 3, 2007
Messages
22,400 (5.82/day)
Likes
8,922
Location
'Merica. The Great SOUTH!
System Name The Mailbox 4.5
Processor Intel i7 2600k @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77X-UP5 TH Intel LGA 1155
Cooling Scythe Katana 4
Memory G.SKILL Sniper Series 16GB DDR3 1866: 9-9-9-24
Video Card(s) MSI 1080 "Duke" with 8Gb of RAM. Boost Clock 1847 MHz
Storage 256Gb M4 SSD, 500Gb WD (7200) 128Gb Agelity 4 SSD
Display(s) LG 29" Class 21:9 UltraWide® IPS LED Monitor 2560 x 1080
Case Cooler Master 922 HAF
Audio Device(s) SupremeFX X-Fi with Bose Companion 2 speakers.
Power Supply SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold
Mouse SteelSeries Sensei (RAW) and a Wacom Intuos 4 tablet.
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow
Software Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
Benchmark Scores Benching is for bitches.
First off I want to thank bta for an excellent editorial not filled with random Robin Hood references of greedy corporations taking advantage of people by distributing the corporations product how they see fit.

Also I would like to inform people on here playing the same old song that they hate change that they are a niche market. A niche market that is RAPIDLY shrinking. PC enthusiasts are one step away from HAM radio operators. Your opinion of an OS has ZERO weight on the market trend we are currently in. Tablets, smart phones and smart TV's are the future. The sad little grasping on an era of bygone days is not only sad but embarrassing to me as a member of a tech community that used to pride itself on keeping up with the latest hardware/software.

Windows 8 is different. Its not bad because its different. Its what the future holds and the longer you fight it the more you sound like that grumpy old man who refuses to use his grandsons computer because snail mail is just fine. I've used Windows 8 now in a fast production environment (making money) and once I learned how and where everything was I can tell you its far more intuitive than windows 7 ever was. Never mind vastly more secure. I'm not afraid of change in the tech world. I not only expect it.....I WELCOME IT. That's what REAL enthusiasts do.

On a final note to the people attacking Bta.......You mental giants in all your wisdom should go and start your own website. I'm sure it will steal all the traffic from Techpowerup with your vast tech knowledge and vendor contacts. W1zz will be cleaning your toilets in a week and you will have all the Bettys pulling on your shorts........I'm sure you will be a huge success indeed. Don't let TPU hold you back any longer. Leave! The world is starving for your mental wisdom you juggernauts of knowledge!
 
Last edited:

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
19,213 (5.03/day)
Likes
4,805
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
ive used 8 before and ive seen several customers with it (Uverse Tech Here) and Id rather customers have Windows 7 or XP.
 

erocker

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 19, 2006
Messages
42,380 (10.17/day)
Likes
18,023
Processor Intel i7 8700k
Motherboard Gigabyte z370 AORUS Gaming 7
Cooling Water
Memory 16gb G.Skill 4000 MHz DDR4
Video Card(s) Evga GTX 1080
Storage 3 x Samsung Evo 850 500GB, 1 x 250GB, 2 x 2TB HDD
Display(s) Nixeus EDG27
Case Thermaltake X5
Power Supply Corsair HX1000i
Mouse Zowie EC1-B
Software Windows 10

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
19,213 (5.03/day)
Likes
4,805
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
why change something that has worked for desktop users for decades?
 

naoan

New Member
Joined
Jul 12, 2009
Messages
303 (0.10/day)
Likes
62
System Name AMD?
Audio Device(s) onboard
Software 7 X64
First off I want to thank bta for an excellent editorial not filled with random Robin Hood references of greedy corporations taking advantage of people by distributing the corporations product how they see fit.

Also I would like to inform people on here playing the same old song that they hate change that they are a niche market. A niche market that is RAPIDLY shrinking. PC enthusiasts are one step away from HAM radio operators. Your opinion of an OS has ZERO weight on the market trend we are currently in. Tablets, smart phones and smart TV's are the future. The sad little grasping on an era of bygone days is not only sad but embarrassing to me as a member of a tech community that used to pride itself on keeping up with the latest hardware/software.

Windows 8 is different. Its not bad because its different. Its what the future holds and the longer you fight it the more you sound like that grumpy old man who refuses to use his grandsons computer because snail mail is just fine. I've used Windows 8 now in a fast production environment (making money) and once I learned how and where everything was I can tell you its far more intuitive than windows 7 ever was. Never mind vastly more secure. I'm not afraid of change in the tech world. I not only expect it.....I WELCOME IT. That's what REAL enthusiasts do.

On a final note to the people attacking Bta.......You mental giants in all your wisdom should go and start your own website. I'm sure it will steal all the traffic from Techpowerup with your vast tech knowledge and vendor contacts. W1zz will be cleaning your toilets in a week and you will have all the Bettys pulling on your shorts........I'm sure you will be a huge success indeed. Don't let TPU hold you back any longer. Leave! The world is starving for your mental wisdom you juggernauts of knowledge!
I will patiently await until MS require you to kick yourself in the nut (or something akin to that effect) to log into their newest greatest OS with "change". :rolleyes:
 

MxPhenom 216

Corsair Fanboy
Joined
Aug 31, 2010
Messages
12,129 (4.55/day)
Likes
3,697
Location
Seattle, WA
System Name The Battlestation
Processor Intel Core i7 4770k @ 4.2GHZ 1.275v
Motherboard MSi Z97 Gaming 5
Cooling EK Supremacy w/ EK Coolstream PE360
Memory G. Skill Trident X 16Gb (4x4GB) 2400mhz @ 1.65v
Video Card(s) MSi GTX1070 Gaming X 8GB @ 2GHz
Storage Samsung 830 128GB SSD, Crucial MX200 500GB, Seagate Barracuda 2TB (2x 1TB Partitions)
Display(s) Qnix QX2710 27" 2560 x 1440 PLS @ 100hz
Case Phantek Enthoo Evolv ATX TG
Audio Device(s) MSi Gaming AudioBoost ALC1150 w/ Sennheiser Game Ones
Power Supply Seasonic Flagship Prime Platinum 850
Mouse Steelseries Rival 310 w/ QCK Mass mat
Keyboard Corsair K70 w/ MX Browns and Red Backlit
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 15439
1rule- put back the real start menu that's been used since xp, put back the Aero interfce.
You know, there's an OS for that. Its called Windows 7.
 

rtwjunkie

PC Gaming Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 25, 2008
Messages
9,379 (2.73/day)
Likes
13,019
Location
Louisiana -Laissez les bons temps rouler!
Processor Core i7-3770k 3.5Ghz, O/C to 4.2Ghz fulltime @ 1.19v
Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty Z68 Pro Gen3
Cooling All air: 2x140mm Fractal exhaust; 3x 140mm Cougar Intake; Enermax T40F CPU cooler
Memory 2x 8GB Mushkin Redline DDR-3 1866
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 6G LE
Storage 1x 250GB MX200 SSD; 2x 2TB WD Black; 1x4TB WD Black;1x 2TB WD Green (eSATA)
Display(s) HP 25VX 25" IPS @ 1920 x 1080
Case Fractal Design Define R4 Black w/Titanium front -windowed
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Z
Power Supply Seasonic X-850
Mouse Logitech G500
Keyboard Logitech G610 Orion mechanical (Cherry Brown switches)
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Start10 & Fences 3.0 installed)
ref Mailman's fiery sermon: Let's see....everyone I personally know, young and up to middle age has a PC, and only uses tablets and smartphones AWAY from the home, but not for their primary or enthusiast tasks when home, and then there's the ever-increasing numbers of pc parts sold. Nope...as an enthusiast I'm definitely not in a rapidly shrinking niche market. What I am in is a market that has room for people to have lots of computer related toys...as do I, so I believe I have indeed embraced change.

And I don't believe very many on here have personally attacked bta (those few that have are the exception), but I believe we are all voicing our opinion in response to what is obviously an EDITORIAL, which is in itself opinion. For centuries, editorials have invited return opinion both in agreement and against the premise of the editorial. I don't believe any of us should be called out for voicing our own opinion, whether for or against, unless the rules have changed and this is now an autocracy that allows only one viewpoint?

Just my 2 cents and opinion.
 

FordGT90Concept

"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Joined
Oct 13, 2008
Messages
20,920 (6.24/day)
Likes
10,022
Location
IA, USA
System Name BY-2015
Processor Intel Core i7-6700K (4 x 4.00 GHz) w/ HT and Turbo on
Motherboard MSI Z170A GAMING M7
Cooling Scythe Kotetsu
Memory 2 x Kingston HyperX DDR4-2133 8 GiB
Video Card(s) PowerColor PCS+ 390 8 GiB DVI + HDMI
Storage Crucial MX300 275 GB, Seagate 6 TB 7200 RPM
Display(s) Samsung SyncMaster T240 24" LCD (1920x1200 HDMI) + Samsung SyncMaster 906BW 19" LCD (1440x900 DVI)
Case Coolermaster HAF 932 w/ USB 3.0 5.25" bay
Audio Device(s) Realtek Onboard, Micca OriGen+
Power Supply Enermax Platimax 850w
Mouse SteelSeries Sensei RAW
Keyboard Tesoro Excalibur
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Benchmark Scores Faster than the tortoise; slower than the hare.
why change something that has worked for desktop users for decades?
Because what happened in computing decades ago is hardly relevant today. The majority of people only use their computer for three or four things. Those tasks are better served by Metro. Micosoft is trying to find a balance between computing a decade ago and computing a decade from now.
 
Joined
Feb 14, 2012
Messages
1,682 (0.79/day)
Likes
578
System Name msdos
Processor 8088
Motherboard mainboard
Cooling passive
Memory 640KB + 384KB extended
Video Card(s) EGA
Storage 5.25"
Display(s) 80x25
Case plastic
Audio Device(s) modchip
Power Supply 45 watts
Mouse serial
Keyboard yes
Software disk commander
Benchmark Scores still running