Windows Update MiniTool offering Lenovo H110 firmware?!

[RejZoR]

It wouldn't be weird if it wasn't an ASUS motherboard and an entirely custom built PC that has ZERO Lenovo components.

Any idea why it's offering it? How is Windows Update detecting components? I've googled a bit and some other people reported they were getting it through official Windows Update app!

 

[rtwjunkie]

I have discovered the same thing, both using this tool and without, that W10 seems to be making a one-size-fits-all approach to everything.

Just hide that update (which the mini-tool allows you to do, and download what you actually need.

 

[Caring1]

Seems odd, perhaps they share the bios chip?

 

[RejZoR]

What the hell Microsoft, are you retarded? Now it's showing me a firmware for Huawei. WHY!? I have Huawei phone, but I've never even connected it to PC via USB cable. So why the freaking hell are you offering me a firmware update!?!?!?!? Nothing in my system is from Huawei. Good thing I'm using MiniTool. God knows what this crap would automatically install/flash on my system otherwise.

 

[FYFI13]

Tick the box "Selected by Windows update" ;-) See? All these non-sense drivers are gone. It's not M$ nor Windows Update retarded. It's this update tool.

 

[AsRock]

Maybe, just maybe they do not want you using the tool lol.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Maybe, just maybe they do not want you using the tool lol.

Of course they don't!

 

[RejZoR]

Maybe, just maybe they do not want you using the tool lol.

That crossed my mind as well. But I don't want to leave updating to Windows. It just installs EVERYTHING. I just don't trust it. Never have and never will. I always update stuff as soon as updates are released, but I want to review the update myself before I install it.

 

[FYFI13]

That crossed my mind as well. But I don't want to leave updating to Windows. It just installs EVERYTHING. I just don't trust it. Never have and never will. I always update stuff as soon as updates are released, but I want to review the update myself before I install it.

I just can't get that. I mean, reviewing what updates to install or not. Fine, you can skip that update today, but then few weeks later new Win10 build will be released and it will contain ALL updates, even the ones you have decided to not install. Do you feel any better if you get that "suspicious" update few weeks later than others? It's just pointless waste of time.

Having control on when updates will be installed is a must, that's why i use this Update MiniToll myself, but i never even bother to read update descriptions.

 

[cadaveca]

That crossed my mind as well. But I don't want to leave updating to Windows. It just installs EVERYTHING. I just don't trust it. Never have and never will. I always update stuff as soon as updates are released, but I want to review the update myself before I install it.

This is hilarious to me, since you're on the internet. Everything you do on the internet, no matter what, goes through your ISP, and is not really private. You best cut the cord now, sir, and never look back! ROFL.

 

[Frick]

This is hilarious to me, since you're on the internet. Everything you do on the internet, no matter what, goes through your ISP, and is not really private. You best cut the cord now, sir, and never look back! ROFL.

Pretty sure that wasn't the point.

 

[cadaveca]

Pretty sure that wasn't the point.

Windows pushes updates to better the service they provide. That's what an OS is these days; a service. By not fully updating the service, you're working with a broken service that potentially makes you more vulnerable.

I install everything, and make very little in the way to changes in the way the OS runs. I have no money to steal (literally), and nothing to hide, and do not care what Microsoft might know about what I do all day long. The only reason to not update everything that Windows offers, to me, is because you have something to hide, but I feel nothing is really hidden when you are on the internet.

I also don't have a cell phone, because I won't carry a tracking device that can pinpoint my location at any given moment.

So his statement to me was funny, like I said; it doesn't matter what his point was. It is very likely also that he wouldn't have such problems to complain about had he used the default service rather than that "tool".

 

[RejZoR]

Pretty sure that wasn't the point.

And it wasn't. I reviewed updates so I knew what was going on and when something went wrong I knew well what caused it. But if OS just keeps tossing updates, god knows what may happen and I'd have no clue where to even begin. Getting Lenovo and Huawei firmware updates on system that has neither of those inside just proves my case even more.

Not to mention I do updates myself so the system is under stress and is later restarted on MY terms, not those imposed by Microsoft. Meaning I don't want OS to download 4GB of updates while i'm playing online games. And I also don't want it bugging me about restarts when I have shit to do and I can't afford a restart. It happened to often in the past OS just decided to restart after updates even though I was doing shit with PC.

 

[R-T-B]

This is hilarious to me, since you're on the internet. Everything you do on the internet, no matter what, goes through your ISP, and is not really private. You best cut the cord now, sir, and never look back! ROFL.

But I can't. I will lose access to the information highway and my free porn! I'll have to go back to croaking in the frog pond like the other frogs, and they are all perverts...

Seriously, I got the same (both of them). Just hide it, microsoft is idiotic.

I just can't get that. I mean, reviewing what updates to install or not. Fine, you can skip that update today, but then few weeks later new Win10 build will be released and it will contain ALL updates, even the ones you have decided to not install. Do you feel any better if you get that "suspicious" update few weeks later than others? It's just pointless waste of time.

Having control on when updates will be installed is a must, that's why i use this Update MiniToll myself, but i never even bother to read update descriptions.

Drivers (such as this) aren't included in the new builds.

 

[Frick]

Windows pushes updates to better the service they provide. That's what an OS is these days; a service. By not fully updating the service, you're working with a broken service that potentially makes you more vulnerable.

I install everything, and make very little in the way to changes in the way the OS runs. I have no money to steal (literally), and nothing to hide, and do not care what Microsoft might know about what I do all day long. The only reason to not update everything that Windows offers, to me, is because you have something to hide, but I feel nothing is really hidden when you are on the internet.

I also don't have a cell phone, because I won't carry a tracking device that can pinpoint my location at any given moment.

So his statement to me was funny, like I said; it doesn't matter what his point was. It is very likely also that he wouldn't have such problems to complain about had he used the default service rather than that "tool".

I honestly have no idea what you're on about. Or rather I do, but it doesn't make sense to me. In the immortal words of Weird Al: "You kooky canadians!"

 

[cadaveca]

And it wasn't. I reviewed updates so I knew what was going on and when something went wrong I knew well what caused it. But if OS just keeps tossing updates, god knows what may happen and I'd have no clue where to even begin. Getting Lenovo and Huawei firmware updates on system that has neither of those inside just proves my case even more.

Not to mention I do updates myself so the system is under stress and is later restarted on MY terms, not those imposed by Microsoft. Meaning I don't want OS to download 4GB of updates while i'm playing online games. And I also don't want it bugging me about restarts when I have shit to do and I can't afford a restart. It happened to often in the past OS just decided to restart after updates even though I was doing shit with PC.

My point was that you'd not have such updates using the default update method.

I know some users, yourself included, have issues with how Windows updates itself, but it does do it the way it does for a reason, which I have no problems with. Windows does in fact list all the updates it applies (you get a notification that updates were installed, and which ones on which date, and whether the updates were successful, but it is a pain to find out what those updates actually are, for sure. However, you are using the software on THEIR terms, NOT yours, no matter how you look at it. Technically, since you aren't using the software the way they want, according to EULA, they can instantly make your machine a OS-less brick if they wanted, and then sue you for the time they took to do it.

And yes, I find your method of dealing with the situation comical, and think that if you are so paranoid, you best get off the internet, because there are far worse things going on behind the scenes at your ISP and the websites you visit.

 

[R-T-B]

There is nothing as far as I am aware in the EULA prohibiting you from not using automatic updates, it simply informs you they are there. I mean, they provide a group policy key for this purpose, for pete sake.

I'm going with kooky canadians, especially since this issue has nothing to do with privacy issues and websites we visit. Actually, considering it seems to think it's the bios that needs updating, I'm kinda concerned what would happen to our rigs if we DID flash/install this update.

 

[cadaveca]

There is nothing as far as I am aware in the EULA prohibiting you from not using automatic updates, it simply informs you they are there. I mean, they provide a group policy key for this purpose, for pete sake.

I'm going with kooky canadians, especially since this issue has nothing to do with privacy issues and websites we visit. Actually, considering it seems to think it's the bios that needs updating, I'm kinda concerned what would happen to our rigs if we DID flash/install this update.

Oh, totally. But that's the point. Using another method of updates is kooky, to me.

But if you aren't using that tool in the way Rejzor is, you wouldn't see that update. Like I said, I blindly install very update offered, can't say I've ever had any issues. It's a third-party tool for updates, of you don't use said tool, you don't have to worry about such happening.

 

[R-T-B]

But if you aren't using that tool in the way Rejzor is, you wouldn't see that update. Like I said, I blindly install very update offered, can't say I've ever had any issues.

According to the internet reports, you do, and it install-loops. I disagree. It just seems to depend on the board you use.

So thank goodness I use this tool. First thing I did on being offered this was google it, and see the screaming people elsewhere.

 

[cadaveca]

According to the internet reports, you do, and it install-loops. I disagree. It just seems to depend on the board you use.

You do understand that I use more boards than most people, and I use Win10 to test currently, and I update before testing any board. Never had any Windows update brick a board, nor have I had it prevent me from doing my reviews. I install Windows fresh on every board, update windows, install most recent drivers, then update board's BIOS to most recent version.

Tick the box "Selected by Windows update" ;-) See? All these non-sense drivers are gone. It's not M$ nor Windows Update retarded. It's this update tool.

I firmly believe that systems without proper updates are security vulnerabilities. That's all. Having a potentially vulnerable system isn't a good idea.

 

[R-T-B]

You do understand that I use more boards than mot people, and I use Win10 to test, and I update before testing any board. Never had any Windows update brick a board, nor have I had it prevent me from doing my reviews.

I said it install loops. I doubt it'd brick a board, but I haven't tested every board ever, so I defer to your judgement.

Mind you, I'm not a board reviewer, but I go through boards and builds far more than the average as well. I daresay minus maybe some highend boards, I've seen nearly as much as you, so that card is irrelevant here. I've deployed pretty much every mainstream z170 (not the really expensive ones though) and nearly all the x99 boards somewhere at some point, for example.

Thus far, I have seen three boards do this:

X99-sabertooth.
Gigabyte z170x-UD5
EVGA z170x FTW (my personal board)


No others to date, but I don't actually MONITOR all my clients boards for install loops, nor do most people. It's still eating your horsepower unnecessarily when it does that though.

What do you see in common here? Me? I see all AMIbios based boards, but just a shot in the dark. Other AMI boards don't do it so *shrugs*

 

[cadaveca]

No others to date, but I don't actually MONITOR all my clients boards for install loops, nor do most people. It's still eating your horsepower unnecessarily when it does that though.

OH yeah, for sure. I do monitor for problems though, since anything that affects performance affects the reliability of the results I post in reviews.


I have 12 active PCs in my house; 5 are mine, 5 for the other 5 members in my family, the rest are review systems.

 

[R-T-B]

OH yeah, for sure. I do monitor for problems though, since anything that affects performance affects the reliability of the results I post in reviews.

Fair enough. As I noted, I've seen it seldom on only a few select boards, but that does not mean it does not exist.

The extra weird thing I noticed about this update is when it appears, it seems to do so days after the install is basically finished and completely up to date.

 

[cadaveca]

Fair enough. As I noted, I've seen it seldom on only a few select boards, but that does not mean it does not exist.

For sure. But as mentioned by another poster, one simple checkbox in the minitool removes those "problematic" updates.

 

[R-T-B]

For sure. But as mentioned by another poster, one simple checkbox in the minitool removes those "problematic" updates.

Yes, I thought that was what you were mocking though?

Perhaps I missed something?

I have 12 active PCs in my house; 5 are mine, 5 for the other 5 members in my family, the rest are review systems.

We have 10 PCs in the house (12 if you count tablets). Some of their "activity" is a bit sparse though. Others are workhorses. The family systems for example, see a lot of use but are really just old core 2 duos because all dad does is look up motorcycles he can't ride and that doesn't take a lot of horsepower (computer or otherwise. )