X1900 Series Overclocking and Feedback thread

[ISSA2000]

heat problem

For 3DMark06 you'll get a nice boost with Dual Core Processors, get score, but why don't you see how high your GFX CARD will overclock to just for kicks?

had it on for more thsn 4 hours before playing a game idle temp was 68dc with case side off (with ati tools 12b) it would get to 118) then video card would cshut down-restart.

but when i dont use ati tools it does not crash after a hour or so.

once i fix it from crasing with this software (im now using b 13)
ill give it a try.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

in first post you will find a link for OC settings for the x1900xt and x1900xtx

 

[hotrippr]

in first post you will find a link for OC settings for the x1900xt and x1900xtx

That is a long thread.
Cant set atitoolb13 to anything without crashing. Unchecked ccc remember box, disabled both ati2evxxx processes also tried just one, disabled ati hotpoller, guess I will have to read thru that mountain of a forum, unless someone can post a method that works for dummies ie 1.do this 2. do that 3.and so on. Mine works at max overdrive no prob.

 

[ViperJohn]

That is a long thread.
Cant set atitoolb13 to anything without crashing. Unchecked ccc remember box, disabled both ati2evxxx processes also tried just one, disabled ati hotpoller, guess I will have to read thru that mountain of a forum, unless someone can post a method that works for dummies ie 1.do this 2. do that 3.and so on. Mine works at max overdrive no prob.

Keep the Scan for Artifacts and 3DView (furry cube) closed. 1900's will suffer raster lock if they are open and other buttons are clicked.

Disable the ATI Hot Key Poller Service. That will kill the 2D/3D split clocks and Vcore (XT cards), ATI OverDrive and the cold bug.

Set your voltage first, clocks second.

Viper

 

[hotrippr]

Thanks for the info. Making some progress now. can those of you that can get successful oc please post your Voltage settings also, this would help tremendously.

Will post oc settings and voltages as soon as I can get a stable setting.

 

[hotrippr]

711/823 stable
Voltages:
1.375-2.086-2.086

Will try to go further as I am getting mid 60c max on stock cooling (lapped w/brasso and ceramique on core).3dm06 increased almost 300 from max ccc.

Heard these can handle higher temps???

Also remember this is a beta tool, I get problems switching back to default clocks from oc clocks(freeze) although seldom.

 

[Ser-J]

Nice overclock! Can you post your 3dmark05 and 03?

 

[oarsome]

I've got some numbers for you folks:

Ati x1900xt, flashed to x1900xtx

711/823.50 @1.4v

3DMark06 5691
3DMark05 12675

temps are:
57 voltage regulator
31 idle core 40 load
35 idle mem 46 load

I'm using a MCW55 waterblock and some MCP15 ram heatsinks
PA120.3 6x tricod fans
LRWB G4 CPU block
1/2 tygon tubing

how do my temps compare? I notice that the R580 runs hotter than the R480, some set up was around 23 idle and 30 load

cheers,

a.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

I've got some numbers for you folks:

Ati x1900xt, flashed to x1900xtx

711/823.50 @1.4v

3DMark06 5691
3DMark05 12675

temps are:
57 voltage regulator
31 idle core 40 load
35 idle mem 46 load

I'm using a MCW55 waterblock and some MCP15 ram heatsinks
PA120.3 6x tricod fans
LRWB G4 CPU block
1/2 tygon tubing

how do my temps compare? I notice that the R580 runs hotter than the R480, some set up was around 23 idle and 30 load

cheers,

a.

what program are you using to determine temps? I like use it if possible.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

[link for xt/xtx OC settings with ATI Tool
X1900XT/XTX/CF List of clocks, cooling, and volts
NAME..................CARD......GPU/MEM.....Vcore.......Vdd...........cooling
HousERaT ........- 1900XT -- 724/810 - 1.475 GPU, 2.124 VDD - Dynatron BH-610
El<(')>Maxi ......- 1900XTX - 820/900 - 1.525 GPU, 2.176 VDD - Pelt
Ross................- 1900XT -- 790/850 - 1.550 GPU, 2.100 VDD - water
dominick32 ......- 1900XT -- 625/725 - 1.175 GPU, 2.086 VDD - stock cooling
gjwild .............- 1900XTX - 762/963 - 1.425 GPU, 2.200 VDD - stock cooling - Relaxed timings
Joe Camel .......- 1900XTX - 732/873 - 1.450 GPU, 2.151 VDD - stock cooling
tommcd64........- 1900XT -- 702/779 - 1.375 GPU, 2.086 VDD - stock cooling
NinjaWreck.......- 1900XTX - 720/900 - 1.425 GPU, 2.225 VDD - stock cooling
Rattle..............- 1900XT -- 705/850 - 1.425 GPU, 2.127 VDD - stock cooling
proth..............- 1900XTX-- 751/882 - 1.500 GPU, 2.200 VDD - stock cooling
M Diddy...........- 1900XTX-- 698/823 - 1.400 GPU, 2.230 VDD - stock cooling

 

[EastCoasthandle]

5532 on 3D06
3DMark Score........5532 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score..........2406
HDR/SM3.0 Score...2738
CPU Score..............1235

9821 on 3D05
GT1 - Return To Proxycon..........38.5 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest....................26.2 FPS
GT3 - Canyon Flight...................60.1 FPS
CPUMarks................................5698


As you can see I didn't break records here but as you can see you should get above average scores if you lap your HS correctly. What is important is the VC scores. For example if you look at the SM 2.0 and HDR/SM 3.0 scores you will see that they are indeed pretty high for just CCC OC.

 

[hotrippr]

weird that my 3dm06 marks seem to be on the mark, but 05 around 9650 seems to be lower than most others.

OarsomeThose temps on water seem pretty decent.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

weird that my 3dm06 marks seem to be on the mark, but 05 around 9650 seems to be lower than most others.

OarsomeThose temps on water seem pretty decent.

Hotrippr are we on another forum somewhere else? I've seen your screen name somewhere other then here.

 

[hotrippr]

4

Hotrippr are we on another forum somewhere else? I've seen your screen name somewhere other then here.

Thought you knew who you were talking with. ASUS Forum and vr-zone.
4?

Thought you have an x1900?

 

[hostage67]

Is this driver the same as the drivers released today at ATI

Since no one else has answered you I will.

NO they are not the same. I tested 3 diff driver sets when I got my card today and ran 3DMark06 to test them.

Drivers from disk - 4456
6.2 from ATI - 3644
6.2 Beta 2 - 4668

The beta gave me the best performance and the 6.2 from www.ati.com sucked incredibly hard. A loss of almost 1,000pts in the benchmark will tell you how good that driver set is.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Thought you knew who you were talking with. ASUS Forum and vr-zone.
4?

Thought you have an x1900?

Yes, I have a x1900xtx, still awaiting my RMA'd MB
the "4" was written by mistake. Sorry about that, I should have known it didn't dawn on me until now

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Since no one else has answered you I will.

NO they are not the same. I tested 3 diff driver sets when I got my card today and ran 3DMark06 to test them.

Drivers from disk - 4456
6.2 from ATI - 3644
6.2 Beta 2 - 4668

The beta gave me the best performance and the 6.2 from www.ati.com sucked incredibly hard. A loss of almost 1,000pts in the benchmark will tell you how good that driver set is.

Thank you very much for taking the time to post this information. From the looks of it. It's better to get the 6.2 beta instead of the 6.2 ati release.

Which VC are you using?

 

[hotrippr]

Since no one else has answered you I will.

NO they are not the same. I tested 3 diff driver sets when I got my card today and ran 3DMark06 to test them.

Drivers from disk - 4456
6.2 from ATI - 3644
6.2 Beta 2 - 4668

The beta gave me the best performance and the 6.2 from www.ati.com sucked incredibly hard. A loss of almost 1,000pts in the benchmark will tell you how good that driver set is.

I tried all of those also, I only saw a 10 point gain using beta 6.2 versus ati6.2. The driver on the cd is crap of course.

 

[ViperJohn]

I tried all of those also, I only saw a 10 point gain using beta 6.2 versus ati6.2. The driver on the cd is crap of course.

I've found the CdRom, the Cat 6.1's and the Cat 6.2's driver fairly consistant myself.

6667 in 3DM06 clean with x1900XT CFE Master card, 801/911 ATItool set clocks, Cat 6.1 drivers at default High IQ with a 2.7Gh 170 Opteron dual core.

Viper

 

[hostage67]

I was using all stock settings for those tests.

Rig:
Intel 640(3.2ghz) @ stock
ECS RS400-A MB(temporary)
X1900XT(by ATI) @ stock
2gb PQI Turbo 667mhz DDRII
OCZ 600w Powerstream PSU
2x 36gb Raptors RAID-0

 

[ViperJohn]

I was using all stock settings for those tests.

Rig:
Intel 640(3.2ghz) @ stock
ECS RS400-A MB(temporary)
X1900XT(by ATI) @ stock
2gb PQI Turbo 667mhz DDRII
OCZ 600w Powerstream PSU
2x 36gb Raptors RAID-0

Oh I could tell that by the numbers. I would have to say the Intel CPU is really hurting your 3DM06 score...probably on the CPU tests. The x1900XT CFE Master did 5401 stone stock with a 2700Mhz Opti 170 here with the CdRom Drivers at default high IQ.

I really dislike the fact that FM made CPU tests as part of the overall 3DM06 score. It just kills the benchmark for any score compares except relative compares on the same computer setup. For cross Intel/AMD platform compares it is totally useless like 3DM01 was and is. A hugh step backwards IMO.

Viper

 

[oarsome]

Viper John,

I posted my temperatures for my rig and I was curious if you could comment

It seems to me that the R580 runs far warmer than the R480

FX55 SANDIEGO 231x11 3008 1.45v set in bios +0.4 overvolt = 1.45-1.49v
Asus A8N32 1009 bios (seems to overvolt my CPU 0.04v)
2048 Ram (2x1024) Cosair 3200 TwinX
Ati x1900xt (bios flashed to x1900xtx) 708/823 1.4v core 2.125vdimm
PC Power and Cooling 510SLI

Cooling
LRWB G4
MCW55 GPU block +Swiftech ramsinks
PA120.3 +6x 120mm Tricod fans
MCP655
1/2 Tygon tubing

UFO U2 Case

Temps
Ambient 20
CPU 26 idle, 32 load
GPU 32 idle, 44 load, Ram 36 idle, 46 load, voltage regulators 56 idle, 82 load

I'm curious if I need to remount, or if I'm okay

I'm curious if you have custom solution to the crappy voltage heatsink (perhaps arctic silver?)

Cheers,

a.

 

[ViperJohn]

Viper John,

I posted my temperatures for my rig and I was curious if you could comment

It seems to me that the R580 runs far warmer than the R480

FX55 SANDIEGO 231x11 3008 1.45v set in bios +0.4 overvolt = 1.45-1.49v
Asus A8N32 1009 bios (seems to overvolt my CPU 0.04v)
2048 Ram (2x1024) Cosair 3200 TwinX
Ati x1900xt (bios flashed to x1900xtx) 708/823 1.4v core 2.125vdimm
PC Power and Cooling 510SLI

Cooling
LRWB G4
MCW55 GPU block +Swiftech ramsinks
PA120.3 +6x 120mm Tricod fans
MCP655
1/2 Tygon tubing

UFO U2 Case

Temps
Ambient 20
CPU 26 idle, 32 load
GPU 32 idle, 44 load, Ram 36 idle, 46 load, voltage regulators 56 idle, 82 load

I'm curious if I need to remount, or if I'm okay

I'm curious if you have custom solution to the crappy voltage heatsink (perhaps arctic silver?)

Cheers,

a.

The R580 are nuclear toasters compared to anything else especially when you lean on the Vcore and core clock. Xbit has a nice write up about the power the x1900's consume compared to others.

I would have to say your radiator isn't up to snuff off the top of my head as 44C load is way to high for WC and a good 10C higher than my ViperFangs. Not sure how you are measuring your memory temps or what you have for air flow over the ramsinks so no comment there.

The VregT, which is acutally the mosfet temp not the regulator temp at 82C is high. Mosfets are designed to run hot but the problem when they do is the heat conduits through the PCB glass and heats other parts close to them...like the memory chips.

Sink the phase series inductor (the black "things", seven on an XT, to the left of the mosfet strip heatsink) as they run almost as hot as the mosfets. Again the heat doesn't hurt them but it heat other parts close by (again those pesky memory chips lol). lastly get some air flow through the mosfet and series inductor heatsink (after you add them) fins. I use dual 30mm fans on the cards I mod which keeps the PS area pretty comfy.

Viper

 

[oarsome]

The R580 are nuclear toasters compared to anything else especially when you lean on the Vcore and core clock. Xbit has a nice write up about the power the x1900's consume compared to others.

I would have to say your radiator isn't up to snuff off the top of my head as 44C load is way to high for WC and a good 10C higher than my ViperFangs. Not sure how you are measuring your memory temps or what you have for air flow over the ramsinks so no comment there.

The VregT, which is acutally the mosfet temp not the regulator temp at 82C is high. Mosfets are designed to run hot but the problem when they do is the heat conduits through the PCB glass and heats other parts close to them...like the memory chips.

Sink the phase series inductor (the black "things", seven on an XT, to the left of the mosfet strip heatsink) as they run almost as hot as the mosfets. Again the heat doesn't hurt them but it heat other parts close by (again those pesky memory chips lol). lastly get some air flow through the mosfet and series inductor heatsink (after you add them) fins. I use dual 30mm fans on the cards I mod which keeps the PS area pretty comfy.

Viper

Thanks for getting back to me,

I'm surprised that you feel my radiator is not up to par, I was under the impression that Thermochill PA120.3 was top of the line, I coupled it with 6 fans each rated at 48CFM

I continued to review temps from stock cooling and they are reporting idle 50 load 70 ect...

I'm not arguing, just very surprised!

I had that same system cooling my R480 core a x850xt PE 624/650 and my temps where:
ambient 20
idle 24
load 31

Do you consider those high?

I'm curious what are you temps? with watercooling (not TEC)

I just mounted my block yesturday, so perhaps I need to let the arctic silver 5 cure?

with regards to memory temps on my x1900xtx I was measuring them with everest beta 2.63, my mistake it's actually measuing gpu ambient card temp

Anyways thanks for your help

cheers,

a.

PS Can I purchases larger rams sinks from you?

 

[ViperJohn]

Thanks for getting back to me,

I'm surprised that you feel my radiator is not up to par, I was under the impression that Thermochill PA120.3 was top of the line, I coupled it with 6 fans each rated at 48CFM

I continued to review temps from stock cooling and they are reporting idle 50 load 70 ect...

I'm not arguing, just very surprised!

I had that same system cooling my R480 core a x850xt PE 624/650 and my temps where:
ambient 20
idle 24
load 31

Do you consider those high?

I'm curious what are you temps? with watercooling (not TEC)

I just mounted my block yesturday, so perhaps I need to let the arctic silver 5 cure?

with regards to memory temps on my x1900xtx I was measuring them with everest beta 2.63, my mistake it's actually measuing gpu ambient card temp

Anyways thanks for your help

cheers,


PS Can I purchases larger rams sinks from you?

Hmmm the TC 120.3 is a good unit so I am kinda surprised at those temps. It may simply be your cards sensor is reading way high. Dead nuts accuracy is a long way from there forte. What are the cards clocks and Vcore on that R480???

Also what do you consider loaded??? I use 3DM01se Nature and 3DM05 Mother Nature in 25-50 repeat pass torture loops to get my loaded die temps and I use 1/2C accurate sensors embedded in the WB HS base too.

The answer to your PS is yes.

Viper