x1950 pro Crossfire problems and solutions.

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

Yes. ATI demos, quake4, fear. No improvement in speed or visual quality. I have never tried to overclock these cards...yet. No point untill I can get them working normally. I don't know how many lanes are running. 4 different motherboards all tested with the same result. Now I do have an interesting phenomena I found. I used 3dmark05 to render frames to bmp and ran frames 1500-2000. That's about when the big man with the big gun gets lined up. I sequenced the frames in animation shop and rendered them as a gif. Now get this. With crossfire on it's rendering frames like this. 123234345456567678789. For every 3 frames it drops back a frame. With crossfire off it's rendering the right way. 123456789 You can see in those 2 examples that the first sequence is 21 frames long ending on frame 9. The second sequence is 9 frames ending on frame 9. Technically the cards alternate frames and theoretically double the frames drawn. Usig this model it's almost exactly 1/2 as fast to run crossfire rendering frames, but rendering twice as many. Not framerate...but frames drawn. It's not drawing in realtime the way I'm using 3dmark05. It draws about 1fps to a bmp file. You following me or am I over your head yet? This is alot of work but I think I'm onto something.

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

boecke said:
Hmm, does anyone know how to get CrossFire setup with:
ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe (CrossFire Ready)
Two PowerColor ATI Radeon X1950 XT Cards

I do not have a CrossFire Edition Card.

Thanks,
boecke

If your cards connect via. external dongle, you need one crossfire ready card and one crossfire edition card. If they have the internal bridges there is no master/salve configuration.

Pinchy · Jan 9, 2007

EDIT - Lazzer beat me to it

EDIT 2 - Check the amount of lanes in CPU-z...never know, could be a possibility...
And i get what you mean with your rendering...but i have no idea what to do about it

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

Pinchy said:
EDIT - Lazzer beat me to it

Sorry pinchy!

So what do you think of my findings? Bwa hahahaha. I will find it damn it! :laugh:

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

EDIT - I didn't see your edit.

Pinchy · Jan 9, 2007

Lazzer408 said:
Sorry pinchy!

Its ok...my net is like uber slow (capped and running at 32k unwired, half the speed of dial up :twitch:

...2-3 full mins to load up a page, 30-40 seconds to wait for my post to submit

...Thankfully, getting cable next month

)

Lazzer408 said:
So what do you think of my findings? Bwa hahahaha. I will find it damn it!

The lanes are under motherboard in CPU-z, just to let you know

Man you got a weird-ass problem...but its bound to be fixable

As i said, i reckon its a setting, cus IMO, it has to be the motherboard or actual cards (For e.g, CD drive shouldnt make a diff

), and seeing as you have tried many mobo's and cards...its bound to be a setting

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

Tried new cards too. :banghead:

Pinchy · Jan 9, 2007

yeah, thats what i meant by "tried many mobo's and cards"

im gonna read thru the crossfire guide that came on my driver CD...

Pinchy · Jan 9, 2007

Oh..my..God

My crossfire manual (from the CD) is about the X1900 series...

boecke · Jan 9, 2007

Alright thanks buddy, I'll have to sell it on eBay or something then.
Now to find an identical looking X1950 XT card that is CrossFire Edition :eek:

Yeah the Manual that I got was for X1900 Series aswell :\
Crazy ass PowerColor.

DRDNA · Jan 9, 2007

Hey just for kicks remove the bridge and try running crossfire like that and see what the results are...seeing as how your running the 6.12's you can enable software level crossfire for lack of a better term.

Random Murderer · Jan 9, 2007

DRDNA said:
Hey just for kicks remove the bridge and try running crossfire like that and see what the results are...seeing as how your running the 6.12's you can enable software level crossfire for lack of a better term.

yea, totally agree. try running without the bridges, if that doesnt work, try running one bridge(try it on both connectors)

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

DRDNA said:
Hey just for kicks remove the bridge and try running crossfire like that and see what the results are...seeing as how your running the 6.12's you can enable software level crossfire for lack of a better term.

What would this prove? I don't want to hurt the cards or anything. Is it at all possible that my cpu can't keep up with it? P4 3.4 (550ht)

DRDNA · Jan 9, 2007

If you do as I ask it will add to the picture is all .Also it will not damage the cards to run it in the software mode crossfire, the 6.12 cats were made for it ! :toast:

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

Oh are you saying it will transfer thru the bus instead of the bridge? I guess I can try it if it doesnt hurt anything

DRDNA · Jan 9, 2007

Alls you do is turn off ur rig , pull power cord , hold power button in for a bit, remove bridge ,add power cord , power up, disable crossfire in bios before you start and renable after finshed.Hurry Curiosity is killing me

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

disable crossfire? I don't understand why I'm doing this. I already know one card will work without the bridge and crossfire disabled. They will both work as single cards supporting 2 displays each without the bridge and crossfire disabled. Do you want me to try to ENABLE crossfire with no bridge?

DRDNA · Jan 9, 2007

No dis able crossfire before you uninstall the bridge , disable via the ccc , then when reboot with out bridge and you enable crossfire it will engage properly.

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1000/

"In order for the software based CrossFire to work, you need any combination of two CrossFire Ready video cards from either the X1900 family or the X1950 family. The exception to this rule is the X1950 Pro, which uses its own form of interconnect and cannot be used in this method of CrossFire."

DRDNA · Jan 9, 2007

errrr hot damn that wall you bang your head on has creaped its way into my home :banghead:

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

Sorry. I always wind up with the odd ball.

Here's some vids of whats happening. These are the rendered images from 3dmark05 sequenced into video. Frame rate is slowed to see the effect. Every 3rd frame it jumps back.

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

I disconnected the bridges and I can't enable crossfire in CCC. It is grayed out.

Random Murderer · Jan 9, 2007

Lazzer408 said:
I disconnected the bridges and I can't enable crossfire in CCC. It is grayed out.

try only one bridge, but try it once in both slots.

DRDNA · Jan 9, 2007

Please ship me the whole PC :confused:

Lazzer408 · Jan 9, 2007

DRDNA said:
Please ship me the whole PC

lol I can't do that. I could ship it on a train...or lay it on the tracks. :rolleyes:

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