you could've googled the power consumption of a 1080 ti and hint for you - it's above 300w, large difference.
Sorry, try again. The 1080Ti is 231w average, this RX 590 is 232w average. When the numbers are literally right in the review, why are you trying to say stuff that isn't true? Like, no googling required, W1z gives them to you right there.
And chances are this card will be better priced than a 1060 for more performance.
The GTX1060 6GB is literally $50 cheaper than this RX 590($229 vs $279). So, no, it won't be better priced than the 1060. Yes, it has 10% more performance, but is that worth a 20% higher price? IDK, that is up to the buyer. Of course the GTX1070 is 20% faster than the RX 590 and 20% more money, so at least it offers a linear price/performance gain over the RX 590. I mean, if you're going to spend the extra $50 on an RX590, it is hard to not consider spending another $60 to go with the GTX1070.
so the performance will overtake nvidia's cards over time with drivers
The problem is this isn't a new architecture. Major performance improvements come with new architectures, the drivers are optimized for the architecture and the performance for that architecture improves over time. There will be no improvements for RX 590, AMD has already optimized the Polaris architecture as much as it can in the 2 years since they launched it.
Perhaps, I certainly wouldn’t put it past nVidia.
However, $425CDN shipped for a BNIB 1070ti gives me a lot if performance that i can use right now and not maybe down the road later with driver improvements.
Polaris and Pascal are both optimized as far as they are going to go at this point. So the performance is what it is. We might see a percentage point swing one way or the other, but there isn't going to be any major improvement. It definitely isn't going to suddenly make the RX 590 perform like a GTX1070. The architecture has been pushed as far as it's going to go.
Except the power draw is matched by the increase in performance, while the 40% higher price will fall substantially in the coming months. Not only it's not a failed product - it will fit right in.
See how different things look when you can read and dunno... think stuff through before writing it down?
Also I'm not so sure on those $200 RX580s. The 8GB Sapphire Nitro is $240 on Newegg...
There will likely be price drops across the board on graphics cards after the holidays. So saying "price will fall eventually" isn't really a valid argument. We are judging the card on where it sits right now, not where it might sit in a few months. AMD knew the pricing of the market when they released this card, if they wanted it to be cheaper they would have made it cheaper. If AMD really wanted a winner they would have priced the RX 590 at $240 and lowered the rest of the stack below it. But they did exactly what nVidia did, released a new card that is faster than their others(ignoring Vega) and instead of replacing the highest Polaris card in the product stack and keeping that price point, they just added a new higher price point.
