Tuesday, September 8th 2009

AMD Prepares Phenom II X2 555

Following a recent move to speed-bump the Athlon II X2 with the Athlon II X2 255, AMD is planning a similar update for the Phenom II X2 lineup, with the Phenom II X2 555. This model makes it clear that an increment of 5 in the model number indicates bump in default clock multiplier of 0.5X, while that of 10 indicates a full 1.0x increase. Keeping with this trend, Phenom II X2 555 is clocked at 3.20 GHz (16.0 x 200 MHz), a 100 MHz increase. Based on the 45 nm Callisto core, the processor features a total chip cache of 7 MB (2x 512 KB L2 + 6 MB L3), a 4000 MT/s HyperTransport interface, and an unlocked bus multiplier. Expected to be available later this month, the Phenom II X2 555 could carry a price-tag of 80 EUR.

Source: INPAI
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49 Comments on AMD Prepares Phenom II X2 555

#1
werez
This CPU was not needed . Even my 9 year old brother knows how to get an extra 100 mhz trough overclocking . Someone said that AMD is fludding the market , but i did not belive that , now ... i'm starting to think that AMD is desparate with these CPU`s . How many they have now ? AMD Athlon II X2 , AMD Sempron 140 ,AMD Phenom II X2 545 , 550 , AMD Phenom II X3 710 720 , AMD Athlon II X4 620 , , AMD Phenom II X3 705e , AMD Athlon II X4 600e , AMD Phenom II X4 810 , AMD Phenom II X4 945 , 955 , 965 , AMD Phenom II X4 905e . Quadcores Athlons now , and more to come . What the hell man ..
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#2
[I.R.A]_FBi
if they make enuff someone will buy one by accident
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#3
TheMailMan78
Big Member
I bet this unlocks to a Magny Cours.
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#4
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Trying to offer a wide variety. What the hell do you care anyways? HA HA, I mean yeah they are putting a proc for every price point but you also have those always got to upgrade with new tech folks out there.
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: TheMailMan78
I bet this unlocks to a Magny Cours.
Oh I thought it unlocked Wonderland. My expectations were too 'high'. :rolleyes:
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TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: btarunr
Oh I thought it unlocked Wonderland. My expectations were too 'high'. :rolleyes:
FINALLY! Someone bit :laugh:
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#7
mdm-adph
by: werez
This CPU was not needed . Even my 9 year old brother knows how to get an extra 100 mhz trough overclocking . Someone said that AMD is fludding the market , but i did not belive that , now ... i'm starting to think that AMD is desparate with these CPU`s . How many they have now ? AMD Athlon II X2 , AMD Sempron 140 ,AMD Phenom II X2 545 , 550 , AMD Phenom II X3 710 720 , AMD Athlon II X4 620 , , AMD Phenom II X3 705e , AMD Athlon II X4 600e , AMD Phenom II X4 810 , AMD Phenom II X4 945 , 955 , 965 , AMD Phenom II X4 905e . Quadcores Athlons now , and more to come . What the hell man ..
AMD is doing nothing different from what any company does -- sell a bunch of different products at a bunch of different pricepoints.

If you don't want the PII X2 555, buy the 550, and shut yer yap. :laugh:

If they stop making the 550, then buy the 555, and consequently, shut yer yap.
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#8
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
by: werez
This CPU was not needed . Even my 9 year old brother knows how to get an extra 100 mhz trough overclocking . Someone said that AMD is fludding the market , but i did not belive that , now ... i'm starting to think that AMD is desparate with these CPU`s . How many they have now ? AMD Athlon II X2 , AMD Sempron 140 ,AMD Phenom II X2 545 , 550 , AMD Phenom II X3 710 720 , AMD Athlon II X4 620 , , AMD Phenom II X3 705e , AMD Athlon II X4 600e , AMD Phenom II X4 810 , AMD Phenom II X4 945 , 955 , 965 , AMD Phenom II X4 905e . Quadcores Athlons now , and more to come . What the hell man ..
When overclocking higher binned chips do better, your 9 year old brother may not realize that the 100mhz difference is differently binned and could have a high possibility with proper cooling.

As far as too many products, I wouldn't really say so...

Single Core - Light load Proc
-Sempron 140 - $36.99 (Can unlock to dual core I believe)

Dual Core Regors - Good proc at a good price, no L3 so will be worse clock for clock by 10 - 15% than L3 brothers (Can unlock to Quads)
-Regor 240 2.8ghz - $60.00
-Regor 245 2.9ghz - $66.00
-Regor 250 3.0ghz - $77.00

Dual Core Callisto's - Great Procs that come in a bit under the Tricores and can unlock to quads.
-Callisto 545 3.0ghz - $89.99
-Callisto 550 BE 3.1ghz - $102.00

Tri Cores Heka - Awesome procs that perform in gaming as good as Quads (Can unlock to Quads).
-Heka 705e 2.5ghz - $116.00 - This is the energy efficient proc, people don't buy these on the same basis as the other procs so hard to count them in the normal list.
-Heka 720 BE 2.8ghz - $124.99 - Amazing proc for the price (Intel has no competitor for this)

Quad with L3 cut a bit
-810 2.6ghz - $144.99

Quad Deneb
-Deneb 945 3.0ghz - $169.99
-Deneb 905e 2.5ghz - $184.99 - Like I said another E proc, look at the price, people pay for energy efficiency as the save off it in the long run.
-Deneb 955 BE 3.2ghz - $189.00
-Deneb 965 BE 3.4ghz - $245.00 - This should level off with the new Intel i5 and i7's out

No as you see in the low end market AMD's plan is to have a processor at every $10 price point. As people buying procs there are trying to get the most for the least, having something every $10 can allow them to squeeze the most for the price. As it moves into the L3 duals you can see them break the $10 gap as that doesn't really matter, they then move to a $20 price gap to differentiate the procs and they also move up from 100mhz difference to a 200mhz difference.

Since this proc would be moving into midrange you can see it will just be a 100mhz increase and probably about $10 - $15 more. I don't see how you can "crucify" them for adding in a nice amount of low end processors. They are giving budget tight people a ton of options. The last new Intel proc for low end was the e5200, and even e7x00 series are still over a $100 when these low end duals are just as fast.
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#9
Flyordie
by: 1Kurgan1
When overclocking higher binned chips do better, your 9 year old brother may not realize that the 100mhz difference is differently binned and could have a high possibility with proper cooling.
*snip*
Very well said, (the entire thing). I really wish others would see it that way too. At least AMD is active with its products, look at Intel... lulz.
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#10
Zubasa
by: 1Kurgan1
When overclocking higher binned chips do better, your 9 year old brother may not realize that the 100mhz difference is differently binned and could have a high possibility with proper cooling.

As far as too many products, I wouldn't really say so...

Single Core - Light load Proc
-Sempron 140 - $36.99 (Can unlock to dual core I believe)

Dual Core Regors - Good proc at a good price, no L3 so will be worse clock for clock by 10 - 15% than L3 brothers (Can unlock to Quads)
-Regor 240 2.8ghz - $60.00
-Regor 245 2.9ghz - $66.00
-Regor 250 3.0ghz - $77.00

Dual Core Callisto's - Great Procs that come in a bit under the Tricores and can unlock to quads.
-Callisto 545 3.0ghz - $89.99
-Callisto 550 BE 3.1ghz - $102.00

Tri Cores Heka - Awesome procs that perform in gaming as good as Quads (Can unlock to Quads).
-Heka 705e 2.5ghz - $116.00 - This is the energy efficient proc, people don't buy these on the same basis as the other procs so hard to count them in the normal list.
-Heka 720 BE 2.8ghz - $124.99 - Amazing proc for the price (Intel has no competitor for this)

Quad with L3 cut a bit
-810 2.6ghz - $144.99

Quad Deneb
-Deneb 945 3.0ghz - $169.99
-Deneb 905e 2.5ghz - $184.99 - Like I said another E proc, look at the price, people pay for energy efficiency as the save off it in the long run.
-Deneb 955 BE 3.2ghz - $189.00
-Deneb 965 BE 3.4ghz - $245.00 - This should level off with the new Intel i5 and i7's out

No as you see in the low end market AMD's plan is to have a processor at every $10 price point. As people buying procs there are trying to get the most for the least, having something every $10 can allow them to squeeze the most for the price. As it moves into the L3 duals you can see them break the $10 gap as that doesn't really matter, they then move to a $20 price gap to differentiate the procs and they also move up from 100mhz difference to a 200mhz difference.

Since this proc would be moving into midrange you can see it will just be a 100mhz increase and probably about $10 - $15 more. I don't see how you can "crucify" them for adding in a nice amount of low end processors. They are giving budget tight people a ton of options. The last new Intel proc for low end was the e5200, and even e7x00 series are still over a $100 when these low end duals are just as fast.
Only problem is Regor cannot unlock.
But none the less, they are still good procs.
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1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
by: Zubasa
Only problem is Regor cannot unlock.
But none the less, they are still good procs.
Thought they could, but looking around I see no info about it :( Either way will be trying once my gf's PII 240 shows up, last one showed up DOA?
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#12
Flyordie
by: 1Kurgan1
Thought they could, but looking around I see no info about it :( Either way will be trying once my gf's PII 240 shows up, last one showed up DOA?
Yeah, only the Phenom IIs can unlock. Athlon IIs can't.
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#13
Yukikaze
by: Flyordie
At least AMD is active with its products, look at Intel... lulz.
This has to be the silliest statement I've read today.

AMD is playing catch-up and flood the market to grab publicity, and quite rightfully so. Intel, on the other hand, is being consistent with its product launches and announcements. Both companies are doing what is sensible in their market positions. AMD is attempting to nibble market share (Since they obviously cannot take it overnight), while Intel is trying to keep things simpler for the large OEMs planning product lines (Because that's where the money is).
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#14
trt740
keep them coming the faster the better.
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1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
by: Yukikaze
This has to be the silliest statement I've read today.

AMD is playing catch-up and flood the market to grab publicity, and quite rightfully so. Intel, on the other hand, is being consistent with its product launches and announcements. Both companies are doing what is sensible in their market positions. AMD is attempting to nibble market share (Since they obviously cannot take it overnight), while Intel is trying to keep things simpler for the large OEMs planning product lines (Because that's where the money is).
Thats equally as silly. I already explained that AMD has no flooded the market place in a nice post right above. What they have done in the mid to low end market is very good. Fly is technically right, Intel has done very minimal work in the low/mid market, the i5 750 is going to be the cheapest proc they have released from their new lineup.

People like staying with current times, even if they aren't on the top of the rung. And when current times mean to be on just the bottom of the rung you must spend $325 or more for a mobo and processor alone, then people just end up running with another company that offers more. Personally I like going from the ground up, coming fro mthe sky down is a good way to flex your companys muscle, but in the end how many people actually buy the products.

I mean right now you can't tell me that spending $114 on an E7400 is better than spending $102 on a better performing PII 550BE. Actually the $77 PII Athlon 250 actually runs right with the E7400, $40 price gap for same performance. Its obvious that Intel needs to make cuts, or get the i3 lineup out soon, look at E8400 costs still.... you can buy a PII 945 for $2 more, thats ridiculous!
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#16
Velvet Wafer
by: btarunr
Following a recent move to speed-bump the Athlon II X2 with the Athlon II X2 255, AMD is planning a similar update for the Phenom II X2 lineup, with the Phenom II X2 555. This model makes it clear that an increment of 5 in the model number indicates bump in default clock multiplier of 0.5X, while that of 10 indicates a full 1.0x increase. Keeping with this trend, Phenom II X2 555 is clocked at 3.20 GHz (16.0 x 200 MHz), a 100 MHz increase. Based on the 45 nm Callisto core, the processor features a total chip cache of 7 MB (2x 512 KB L2 + 6 MB L3), a 4000 MT/s HyperTransport interface, and an unlocked bus multiplier. Expected to be available later this month, the Phenom II X2 555 could carry a price-tag of 80 EUR.

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/09-08-31/40a_thm.jpg

Source: INPAI
hey nice, please write the price in euros every time you encounter such news, it saves me time:D
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#17
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
by: Velvet Wafer
hey nice, please write the price in euros every time you encounter such news, it saves me time:D
It would be nice to see both values, but I assume these articles are sent to them so where its from has that currency.
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#18
JrRacinFan
Served 5k and counting ...
by: Flyordie
Yeah, only the Phenom IIs can unlock. Athlon IIs can't.
That's incorrect also. The Sempron 140 can unlock to a Regor. A Callisto can be unlock to a Deneb.

A Regor chip there is nothing there to unlock.
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#19
Zubasa
by: JrRacinFan
That's incorrect also. The Sempron 140 can unlock to a Regor. A Callisto can be unlock to a Deneb.

A Regor chip there is nothing there to unlock.
Just to make things clear, it is the Athlon II X4 that unlocks.
Callistos are Phenom II X2s.
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#20
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
by: Zubasa
Just to make things clear, it is the Athlon II X4 that unlocks.
Callistos are Phenom II X2s.
Right, but he's also saying the Sempron 140 that isn't based on a Phenom II x4 (Deneb) can unlock to a dual core.
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#21
JrRacinFan
Served 5k and counting ...
by: Zubasa
Just to make things clear, it is the Athlon II X4 that unlocks.
Callistos are Phenom II X2s.
Whats there to unlock in an Athlon X4? :confused:

by: 1Kurgan1
Right, but he's also saying the Sempron 140 that isn't based on a Phenom II x4 (Deneb) can unlock to a dual core.
Didn't read me wrong with that. It can.
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#22
Zubasa
by: JrRacinFan
Whats there to unlock in an Athlon X4? :confused:
Just like my Phenom II X4 810, the L3 cache.

Just that this time, it is the whole L3 cahce that was shut off. :D
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#23
JrRacinFan
Served 5k and counting ...
by: Zubasa
Just like my Phenom II X4 810, the L3 cache.

Just that this time, it is the whole L3 cahce that was shut off. :D
Yah was talking cores but I saw where your going with that after I replied. :)
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#24

Riddle me this. BTW, every component in my system is AMD/certified, if the new i5 750 is only $210 and the 965 is $245, the 750 either ties or beats the 965 at every turn and can be overclocked to 4GHz, what the hell is AMD going to do??!! Flood the market, don't flood the market, who cares. I would not envy the position of saying my company rules the sub $200 market. AMD had better get it together or my Lian Li Spider case ( I said every component) is going to look silly with Intel Inside.

If your upgrading your AMD rig, O.K. for the selection, if your building new, Intel is slapping AMD around.

As one review put it, the new i5 should be called "coffin nailer"
#25
naoan
by: LaidLawJones
Riddle me this. BTW, every component in my system is AMD/certified, if the new i5 750 is only $210 and the 965 is $245, the 750 either ties or beats the 965 at every turn and can be overclocked to 4GHz, what the hell is AMD going to do??!! Flood the market, don't flood the market, who cares. I would not envy the position of saying my company rules the sub $200 market. AMD had better get it together or my Lian Li Spider case ( I said every component) is going to look silly with Intel Inside.

If your upgrading your AMD rig, O.K. for the selection, if your building new, Intel is slapping AMD around.

As one review put it, the new i5 should be called "coffin nailer"
Not everyone buy a $200 cpu... AMD still make sense on sub $200 price point, for now
will be interesting to see when core i3 and cheaper core i5 model is out
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