Monday, December 14th 2009

NVIDIA Pitches GeForce GTX 300 Series to Clinch Performance Crown

NVIDIA's latest DirectX 11 compliant GPU architecture, codenamed "Fermi," is getting its first consumer graphics (desktop) implementation in the form of the GeForce GTX 300 series. The nomenclature turned from being obvious to clear, with a set of company slides being leaked to the media, carrying the GeForce GTX 300 series names for the two products expected to come out first: GeForce GTX 380, and GeForce GTX 360. The three slides in public domain as of now cover three specific game benchmarks, where the two graphics cards are pitted against AMD's Radeon HD 5870 and Radeon HD 5970, being part of the company's internal tests.

Tests include Resident Evil 5 (HQ settings, 1920x1200, 8x AA, DX10), STALKER Clear Sky (Extreme quality, No AA, 1920 x 1200, DX10), and Far Cry 2 (Ultra High Quality, 1920x1200, 8x AA, DX10). Other GPUs include GeForce GTX 295 and GTX 285 for reference, just so you know how NVIDIA is pitting the two against the Radeon HD 5000 GPUs, given that the figures are already out. With all the three tests, GTX 380 emerged on top, with GTX 360 performing close to the HD 5970. A point to note, however, is that the tests were run at 1920 x 1200, and tests have shown that the higher-end HD 5000 series GPUs, particularly the HD 5970, is made for resolutions higher than 1920 x 1200. AA was also disabled in STALKER Clear Sky. NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 300 will be out in Q1 2010.

Update (12/15): NVIDIA's Director of Public Relations EMEAI told us that these slides are fake, but also "when it's ready it's going to be awesome".
Source: Guru3D
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189 Comments on NVIDIA Pitches GeForce GTX 300 Series to Clinch Performance Crown

#1
DrunkenMafia
damn, looks like they have a good product there. Will this be the beginning of yet another GFX king cycle?? :)

Will wait for some 3rd party tests to see what they find.
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#2
slyfox2151
wait so are these benchmarks confirmed now?

i would assume they havnt been and are still possibly fake.
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#3
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
slyfox2151wait so are these benchmarks confirmed now?

i would assume they havnt been and are still possibly fake.
They're as 'confirmed' as similar slides from AMD were, ahead of product launches.
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#4
qwerty_lesh
Internal tests..
they wont be anything like real world imo.

Good on them if they do achieve this performance level, although I don't believe nvidia will.
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#5
sapetto
Ha again?! Lol ATI also showed similar slides and they were not very correct (in the slides 5870 outperforms GTX295).
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#6
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
sapettoHa again?! Lol ATI also showed similar slides and they were not very correct (in the slides 5870 outperforms GTX295).
IIRC, there was no GTX 295 in HD 5870 slides. That was GTX 285.
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#7
laszlo
i didn't expected almost 50% more from fermi but the price of gt380 will be almost double compared to HD5870;only gt360 will be placed under it i think around 300$
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#8
sapetto
btarunrIIRC, there was no GTX 295 in HD 5870 slides. That was GTX 285.
Here is an example
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#9
laszlo
sapettoHere is an example
i25.tinypic.com/2emg9zs.jpg
if you check on your slide far cry 2 results are similar to the posted ones so i think they're real
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#10
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
It seems pretty beleivable to me, although Nvidia will have cherry picked the games of course so we have not seen the complete picture yet, if the 380 is faster (across the board) than the 5970 then I would expect it to be 20% more expensive and if the 360 is quicker than the 5870 then I would expect it's pricing to be around midway between the 5870 and the 5970 and thats gonna be pricey! of course AMD will bring their prices down a bit and then we all have to decide if it's "Bang for buck" or sheer power we want..... it just all goes full circle really.... again.....and again......and again.
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#11
toyo
If this is really true, I must ask:

GTX 360, what's your price???

And... for AMD... it was sweet while it lasted...

But... this is nothing more than the fake empty shell Jen-Hsun Huang pranced around with pretending it was a whole Fermi. Most probably just a desperate try to ruin holiday sales for the red team...
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#12
shevanel
can't wait to see how much money it's going to take to own one.
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#13
toyo
And I wonder what the game devs will do with so much power now available...
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#14
laszlo
toyoAnd I wonder what the game devs will do with so much power now available...
nothing because majority of gamers don't have high-end cards and they have to sell the games to this section of the market which is the bigger one.
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#15
shevanel
i also wanna know how hot their cards are running.

heat output and price are my two biggest issues.
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#16
Amok
How can you not see these are fakes? They were posted on forums by some dude named succesfull troll. The irony :))

First of all, PR slides released by Nvidia or Ati only show percentages of performance, never do they show fps numbers.

Check the slide below to convince yourselves



Second, this is a real review, from xbitlabs.



This is the slide



Both the review slide and the so called "PR slide" use no AA, DX 10, highest settings etc.

it's pretty obvious the GTX 285/295/Radeon 5870 /5970 scores are made up, they do not perform that well on high-end rigs at those settings.

These slides are good fakes, but fakes nontheless.

It would be great to see Fermi being such a good performer, but we have to be real, these are fakes.

It's been already discussed here quite a bit.

www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240958
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#17
iamverysmart
You could just ignore the ATI benchmarks and only look at the nVidia cards.
The GTX380 should perform a bit more then double of a GTX285?
512 vs 240 shaders.
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#18
Amok
but the GTX 285 does not score a 44 fps average on those settings in that game. Not even a GTX 295 does. The slides have fake results.

And once again, Nvidia always shows percentages of performance in their slides, not actual numbers.
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#19
iamverysmart
Maybe they had a custom benchmark that had them facing a wall.
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#21
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
Amokbut the GTX 285 does not score a 44 fps average on those settings in that game. Not even a GTX 295 does. The slides have fake results.

And once again, Nvidia always shows percentages of performance in their slides, not actual numbers.
Not so sure, the results here resemble reviews/findings from this site, taking into account the increased AA here for example, look at far cry 2 in this thread and its settings at 19XX..... then look at the TPU review of the 5870 which shows GTX285 also here....

www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon_HD_5870/14.html
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#22
Amok
Look at these slides, from the THG forums.






THG never did a GTX 300 series review. I can make such slides as well, would you believe me?


Still think they are real?
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#23
leonard_222003
You people know what will happen , don't you ?
Amd/Ati will reduce the price ridiculously low if they lose on performance to much , Nvidia will start screaming at the little people to reduce costs ( integrators ) , the little people will start making both or defect to the enemy.
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#24
crow1001
FAKE!!

Take em down, you all look like suckers.:slap:
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