Wednesday, January 13th 2010

AMD Cedar Reference Design Board Pictured

AMD's entry-level graphics processor in its DirectX 11 compliant generation, the Radeon HD 5000 series is codenamed "Cedar". This GPU is expected to be half as powerful as the "Redwood" GPU, with an expected 200 stream processors, 64-bit GDDR5/GDDR3 memory interface, and DirectX 11 compliance. It will make for two initial product SKUs: the Radeon HD 5400 series (probably Cedar with GDDR3 memory), and Radeon HD 5500 series (probably Cedar with GDDR5 memory). There are three models slated for release later this month: Radeon HD 5450, Radeon HD 5550, and Radeon HD 5570.

A low-profile reference design engineering sample's picture made it to our friends at Arab Hardware. The picture reveals a low-profile design which is slightly longer than the PCI-Express interface itself, keeps the black PCB color theme for the HD 5000 series going, and uses a tiny GPU cooler. DVI-D and DisplayPort connectors are located on the card, while a full-height bracket can expand the connectivity with a D-Sub connector. Products based on the Cedar GPU are expected to be positioned well within the $100 mark, and aimed at media-centric home users and full-time HTPCs.
Source: Arab Hardware Forums
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42 Comments on AMD Cedar Reference Design Board Pictured

#26
GSG-9
mtosev64bit > performance killer. meh. too bad. they cude have used 128bit.
I'm assuming its a cheaper process and its going to fit in the performance gap they want with the 64bit as is.
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#27
Flyordie
btarunrIntel names its chips after American villages, while AMD's Evergreen chips are named after trees?

Cedar, Cypress, Redwood, Juniper...they're all trees, which are "evergreen" in nature.
All of their names come from trees of the Cypress family.

The next gen should be "stars". :-p
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#28
GSG-9
FlyordieAll of their names come from trees of the Cypress family.

The next gen should be "stars". :-p
as long as 'porn' is not thrown in there first. Then we would have some tacky videocards trying to pay there way through med school...
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#29
cauby
FlyordieAll of their names come from trees of the Cypress family.

The next gen should be "stars". :-p
LOL,like the ones Mario collects or,you know,stars,like Brad Pitt ,Angelina Jolie and others???:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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#30
[H]@RD5TUFF
Cool beans, but where is my damn 56xx's ?
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#33
alwayssts
First of all, thanks for the Cedar review/pictures AHW! :toast:

Second of all, 5500 is Redwood with GDDR3. It's mobility 5730/5650, but I expect them to be HD5570/5550 on the desktop. There were reports a couple weeks back about a 5570 with exactly Mobility 5730 spec, and the parts rumored to be coming are 5570 and 5550, both with Redwood-PRO monikers, so that makes the most sense. 5570 will have the same clock speed as 5650 with half the bandwidth because of GDDR3.

Basically, look at the mobility series and subtract 100, since Juniper (Desktop HD5700) replaces Cypress as the 5800 series in the Mobility lineup. Cedar/Park are 5400 series on both. (70-GDDR5 and 750mhz, 50-GDDR3 and 675mhz, 30-GDDR3 and 550mhz).

At any rate, AMD really blew their load with the mobility launch since you can extrapolate the desktop counterparts., but that doesn't make the products any less cool.

At least we got early specs and pics of the chips, without having to wait til launch. :)


Redwood/Madison
Desktop HD5600/HD5500/Mobility HD5700/5650



Cedar/Park
5400 series
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#34
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
ImsochoboNope dont think so :p

its slower than any AMD graphicscard from the 3 series, although memory bandwidth is lower on 3450> 33xx 32xx 24xx 23xx 22xx ...

When will system memory ever be fast ? (for igp's)

Core I7 however have a little potential, trichannel, 28 gb/sec = a 7600 GT max OC.
im saying power useage constitutes the small cooler, to me id rather have a sink that takes up less space in a HTPC than something that prevents working on it. The fan on the Radeon 9700 Pro was quiet.
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#37
Imsochobo
newtekie1What are we talking here? Sub-8600GT performance from the specs? Those could barely handle DX10...forget about running anything DX11 on these cards.

I'm very interested in the power consumption number though, these things should be killer for HTPC setups.
It should perform like a HD 2600 XT ++
if it has a GDDR5 @ 64 bit memory bus you get 23 gb/sec :) which is rather fast for such a low end card!
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#38
Xajel
Just to note for the news, the guy didn't manage to get pictures, he took the pictures, to be more precise he has the card in his hands and did some benchies ( he already posted the link in another comment by him )

Thanks mena :)
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#39
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
newtekie1What are we talking here? Sub-8600GT performance from the specs? Those could barely handle DX10...forget about running anything DX11 on these cards.

I'm very interested in the power consumption number though, these things should be killer for HTPC setups.
the DDR3 one has me worried, but the DDR5 model sounds ok.

And yeah, it seems like it could be a high end HTPC card - low profile, small, low heat (could work well passive) - and its got VGA, DVI, displayport, and via DVI-HDMI, HDMI. Since its ATI, we also know its gunna have audio on the HDMI and displayport as well.

edit: hell, this thing could do non-gaming eyefinity as well - how many programmers/codemonkies would love cheap triple monitor support?
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#40
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
Musselsthe DDR3 one has me worried, but the DDR5 model sounds ok.

And yeah, it seems like it could be a high end HTPC card - low profile, small, low heat (could work well passive) - and its got VGA, DVI, displayport, and via DVI-HDMI, HDMI. Since its ATI, we also know its gunna have audio on the HDMI and displayport as well.

edit: hell, this thing could do non-gaming eyefinity as well - how many programmers/codemonkies would love cheap triple monitor support?
The memory bandwidth is just one aspect, and I'm not really concerned with it as you mentioned with the GDDR5, I'm more concerned with the lower stream processor count, and likely low ROP count.
XajelJust to note for the news, the guy didn't manage to get pictures, he took the pictures, to be more precise he has the card in his hands and did some benchies ( he already posted the link in another comment by him )

Thanks mena :)
Yes, in a language most of us here don't speak, with pictures that don't work...
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#41
7mm
btarunrIntel names its chips after American villages, while AMD's Evergreen chips are named after trees?
Cedar, Cypress, Redwood, Juniper...they're all trees, which are "evergreen" in nature.
Ohh..., thanks for that Info brother.
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#42
zwawy
newtekie1Yes, in a language most of us here don't speak, with pictures that don't work...
* Language is Arabic, dear.

* Pictures was not working because TPU alert us that the card is currently under NDA and now we deleted the entire thread.

Thank you for your understanding.
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