Holly schit! they exist:p

wow amd take steroids they are ready with the 6xxx series. Congrats ! Nvidia has yet to show us his most powerful card c mon green team !

by: Taskforce

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Holly schit! they exist:p

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Considering they can be in your shopping cart by October 25, yes, they more than do exist.

If this is true then AMD guys are damn serious about what they want for the future: that is to be the new and only green team in the market.

Passively cooled reference cards? Good news for htpc owners.

What I like is the 128bit card replacing a 64bit card as that shows some real progress..

So would that make the low end card about as powerful as a 3650?

by: jmcslob

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What I like is the 128bit card replacing a 64bit card as that shows some real progress..

So would that make the low end card about as powerful as a 3650?

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lets hope so at 45$ for 512 of gddr3, Id build a LANROOM for CS:S with this cards:rockout:

by: buggalugs

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Passively cooled reference cards? Good news for htpc owners.

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I don't know about neon pink though....




Hopefully they bring some welcome improvements. It would be great to see a bigger increase between generations while maintaining the smaller power envelope of a low profile passive card. Also I haven't heard much about featureset concerning the 6xx0 series, I wonder what new additions will be there.

Well I'm still kicking myself for buying a 5850 : - I've had so much schidt with this thing - and I'm STILL battling.

I chose ATI overn Vidia for the first time now in AGES over concerns of power consumption, and heat VS the "Fermi" series of nVidias - but I wont make that mistake again.

There is virtually nothing that this damn ATI DOESN'T have at least some minor glitch in :(

by: BazookaJoe

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There is virtually nothing that this damn ATI DOESN'T have at least some minor glitch in :(

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I dont have any problems with my 5870. I've played at least 20 games mostly new games and there was only 1 that i had a problem with but even that was still playable.

If you have problems with a 5850 either your system is screwed or the card is faulty.

by: buggalugs

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Passively cooled reference cards? Good news for htpc owners.

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Yeah, i hate those low profile low end cards that have a farting fan on them. But i guess its cheaper to integrate a fan than a larger chunk of aluminum...

by: buggalugs

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If you have problems with a 5850 either your system is screwed or the card is faulty.

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Sadly you are wrong.

Almost every problem I have had, I have been able to resolve. All of them them where/are driver issues and a few other issues relating to no physx support in ATI hardware.

And the few I have not been able to resolve are directly related to the ATI drivers, and I have repeated these faults on other systems with different configurations and even other ATI cards.

At this stage one might argue that since I was ultimately able to resolve all of the issues, then whats my problem? My problem is why buy ANOTHER ATI which I now KNOW will be full of schidt that will need resolving, when I can just go back to nVidia who has ALMOST never let me down? - I'm just saying is all...

Wouldn't they benefit with DDR5 ? I mean even as marketing tool.

by: caleb

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Wouldn't they benefit with DDR5 ? I mean even as marketing tool.

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would increase price but probably not performance.

MMMmmmMMM! I am so ready for the 6000 Series! I am currently looking for something cheap but maybe by next Winter it'll be time to replace my beautiful 5770 and I'd love to have something shiny, new and powerful to give my machine!

by: BazookaJoe

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Sadly you are wrong.

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I think you're wrong dude. They've sold millions of 5 series cards and the vast majority like 98% dont have problems.

Physx support or lack of has never been an issue for me. Just finished Mafia2 and played other games with physx like Batman AA and a few others ,never any problem playing the games on max settings with physx off.

How can my card work perfect but yours doesnt? I play a lot of games and like i said only 1 game had an issue which was fixed in the next driver release.

Isn't it kind of long for such a low level card?

by: BazookaJoe

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Well I'm still kicking myself for buying a 5850 : - I've had so much schidt with this thing - and I'm STILL battling.

I chose ATI overn Vidia for the first time now in AGES over concerns of power consumption, and heat VS the "Fermi" series of nVidias - but I wont make that mistake again.

There is virtually nothing that this damn ATI DOESN'T have at least some minor glitch in :(

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Well, I had the same issues. Just to name a few: BiA:HH in the Black Rain level, one month for the ATi fix (unplayable without it, totally screw my experience with the game); Mercenaries II, aplying HDR was faulty so frames drops to 2-5 per second. NFS:SHIFT; before the patch and the hotfix (wich take about a month) the performance was horrible. Not only not having PhysX in BAA, but also no AA. WTF!? This ones just to name a few and putting a side PhysX support. A lot of CTDs also that misteorusly dissapear when I went back to nVIDIA. All of this isuues and much more can be corroborated in the web because, well, it happens to all the HD 4xxx and 5xxx.

AMD/ATi makes good hardware. I think they are actually making better hardware than nVIDIA but with crappy, buggy and faulty drivers with tons of problems with games and even the OS. When a major tittle has an issue they took about a month to solve it an generally nVIDIA took one day! (for example the buggy PhysX System Software that came with the Mafia II demo).

Go from nVIDIA to ATi was a huge mistake for me and I wait and wait for nVIDIA and finally they came up with the 460. I bought about two months the GBT 1GB/OC model to upgrade my HD 4850 and never been happier and I playing all my games without any problem.

In the name of the truth, I have one issue with nVIDIA in HAWX. This happens when I turn on DX10.1: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9219/hawxdx10201009041420452.jpg

by: BazookaJoe

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Sadly you are wrong.

Almost every problem I have had, I have been able to resolve. All of them them where/are driver issues and a few other issues relating to no physx support in ATI hardware.

And the few I have not been able to resolve are directly related to the ATI drivers, and I have repeated these faults on other systems with different configurations and even other ATI cards.

At this stage one might argue that since I was ultimately able to resolve all of the issues, then whats my problem? My problem is why buy ANOTHER ATI which I now KNOW will be full of schidt that will need resolving, when I can just go back to nVidia who has ALMOST never let me down? - I'm just saying is all...

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i think the card didnt like this NV boy lol :) even i use a small 5770 and he rocks.. the only problem i find is when i play games with physix and its Nvidia problem :)

Odd that the first card would be low profile. I'm only in the market for dual DVI out to drive existing TFTs.

Also, it seems that the cut down entry card operates on PCIe x8. Shame they didnt MAKE IT x8 and save the x16 slots. This could have made a good secondary card for an x1 x4 or x8 slot. Perhaps production versions will be on x1 or x4. That would be quite sensible.

More pics

Thanks for the pictures CrystalKing. It looks like there ARE traces for x16, so I wonder why it is only working in x8 mode. Perhaps a firmware, driver or "engineering sample restriction".

66mm^2!!?? so small and the ram chips seems like 64bit rather than 128bit weird never seen a card with 128bit and 2 chips on it ,the chips on the other side on all available cards to double the memory size

hmm and a month old card interesting the 6870 must be ready too======

by: CrystalKing

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More pics

http://www.chiphell.com/data/attachment/forum/201009/06/220249sibd1x11xx1bohjb.jpg
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http://www.chiphell.com/data/attachment/forum/201009/06/220334uhjjbqjmmh21zkmh.jpg

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Thank you sir. :)

That heatsink appears to have a small vapour-chamber.