20% hotter and more power draw too? XD

by: FordGT90Concept

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BTW, the "to" doesn't sound right in the title.

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GeForce GTX 580 Expected to be 20% Faster than GeForce GTX 480 Is that ok? :laugh: Ok, so you owe me one BTA! ;)

maybe what they mean was the "wooden" version will be launching at December

This is interesting, wonder how the cayman would fare.

Before NV says that, they must beat the 5970 in dual gpu segment...

... and exactly how many nuclear power stations are required to power it ... :rolleyes: ... but look at the bright side; you won't need any gas cooker after you get this GPU ... ;)

Haha, the new GrillForce is coming! Chefs going to like it:laugh:.

Hmmm, If you would consider GTX480 with 10% higher clock speed and all 512 cores.....

by: Fourstaff

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Hmmm, If you would consider GTX480 with 10% higher clock speed and all 512 cores.....

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And it's an entirely new generation!:laugh:

by: btarunr

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poised for at least a paper-launch by end of November, or early December, 2010.

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What? THAT soon?

So let me get this straight Nvidia is going to launch a Architecture early that wasn't supposed to be launched until 2011 and they couldn't get Fermi out on time.... yeah right!

by: Red_Machine

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What? THAT soon?

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It's just a paper launch, they need to counter ATI new card that they announced. Been a nvidia fan boy for a while now, but if they dont fix the problems that were in the 400 series, they going to lose a lot of fan base.

by: Red_Machine

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What? THAT soon?

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yeah just like fermi, they just paper dragon until six month later

And as the story goes ... After the 580 series, 1 month later AMD will answer back with a 15% increase, then NVidia will promise a 680 series (another 10% gain) then AMD ......... Same story .... over and over ..... It never ends folks!

This is good but it's only words. Action speaks louder than words. All I can do is wait and see when it comes out.

by: DanTheMan

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And as the story goes ... After the 580 series, 1 month later AMD will answer back with a 15% increase, then NVidia will promise a 680 series (another 10% gain) then AMD ......... Same story .... over and over ..... It never ends folks!

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Its a half empty / half full conundrum :D

End of 2011? meh.

GF104 = 384 SP = 2 x GPC GF110 = 3 x GPC = 576 SP 576/480 = 1.2 = +20% :eek: Power consumption on Furmark GTX460 = 155 W = 336 SP GF110 = (155 W x 576 SP) / 336 SP = 265 W iGame GTX460 = 141 W GF110(?) = (141 x 576) / 336 = 241 W

oh my god only 20% faster than gtx 480!:) there were also speculation about doubled gf100:laugh: now there is no way nvidia can steal AMD's thunder

by: benetanegia

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gf104 = 384 sp = 2 x gpc gf110 = 3 x gpc = 576 sp 576/480 = 1.2 = +20% :eek: power consumption on furmark gtx460 = 155 w = 336 sp gf110 = (155 w x 576 sp) / 336 sp = 265 w http://tpucdn.com/reviews/colorful/igame_gtx_460_1_gb/images/power_maximum.gif igame gtx460 = 141 w gf110(?) = (141 x 576) / 336 = 241 w

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fyi . Tdp is dependent on several factors other than ONLY shaders count

Wait, 20% faster than a 480 is like a 5870 oc'd (well something more) but it is definetly slower than a promised 6870... They are not even getting even on paper now?

by: charlo

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wait, 20% faster than a 480 is like a 5870 oc'd (well something more) but it is definetly slower than a promised 6870... They are not even getting even on paper now?

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i think you mean 6970

by: SNICK

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fyi . Tdp is dependent on several factors other than ONLY shaders count

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FYI, Fermi cards are based only on 2 type of clusters, GPC and ROP partitions, every card is just a conbination of the two. . GPC = SPs + TMUs + rasterizers + setup engines + tesselators (Polymorph) + L1 cache ROP partition = ROPs + memory controllers + L2 cache When something increases everything increases by the same amount as long as the GPC is equal. GF100 and GF104 GPCs are different. You want me to speculate power consumption based on ROP partitions? GF104 = 2 ROP partitions = 155 W GF110 = 3 ROP partitions = (155 x3) / 2 = 232 W Other than silicon increase the only thing that affects power consumption is clock speed which I speculated is going to be the same more or less, and that it won't affect too much: as can be seen on the chart I provided @820 Mhz (quite an OC) the power is 176 W.

by: CharlO

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Wait, 20% faster than a 480 is like a 5870 oc'd (well something more) but it is definetly slower than a promised 6870... They are not even getting even on paper now?

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20% faster than a 480 is like a 480 oc'd ;) So it should be somewhat faster than 5970 http://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/N480GTX_GTX_480_Lightning/images/perfrel.gif

by: Benetanegia

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FYI, Fermi cards are based only on 2 type of clusters, GPC and ROP partitions, every card is just a conbination of the two. . GPC = SPs + TMUs + rasterizers + setup engines + tesselators (Polymorph) + L1 cache ROP partition = ROPs + memory controllers + L2 cache When something increases everything increases by the same amount as long as the GPC is equal. GF100 and GF104 GPCs are different. You want me to speculate power consumption based on ROP partitions? GF104 = 2 ROP partitions = 155 W GF110 = 3 ROP partitions = (155 x3) / 2 = 232 W Other than silicon increase the only thing that affects power consumption is clock speed which I speculated is going to be the same more or less, and that it won't affect too much: as can be seen on the chart I provided @820 Mhz (quite an OC) the power is 176 W.

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your whole mathemetics based on unitary method is not supposed to be used on electricals components.TDP of FULL gf100 is around 204 watts more than gf100.based on your mathematics can you explain why the TDP OF FULL GF100 IS QUITE MORE AS EXPECTED?