Friday, July 22nd 2011

Core i7-3960X About 47% Faster On Average Than Core i7-990X: Intel

Slides of a key presentation to Intel's partners was leaked to sections of the media, which reveal Intel's own performance testing of the Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition, the top-model of the socket LGA2011 "Sandy Bridge-E" processor series. Meet the family here. In its comparison, Intel maintained the Core i7-990X Extreme Edition socket LGA1366 processor as this generation's top offering. It was pitted against the Core i7-3960X in a battery of tests that included some enthusiast favourites such as Cinebench 11.5, POV-Ray 3.7, 3DMark 11 physics, Pro-Show Gold 4.5, and some OEM favourites such as SPECint_rate base2006, SPECfp_rate base2006, and SiSoft SANDRA 2011B multimedia and memory bandwidth.

From these test results, the Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition is pitched to be about 47.25% faster on average, compared to Core i7-990X Extreme Edition. Intel is attributing the performance boost, apart from the normal IPC increase, to the 33% higher bandwidth thanks to the quad-channel DDR3 IMC, and the new AVX instruction set that accelerates math-heavy tasks such as encoding. The Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition is an upcoming socket LGA2011 six-core processor that is clocked at 3.30 GHz, with Turbo Boost speed of up to 3.90 GHz, with 12 threads enabled by HyperThreading technology, and 15 MB L3 cache. It will release by either late 2011 or early 2012.
Source: Donanim Haber
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116 Comments on Core i7-3960X About 47% Faster On Average Than Core i7-990X: Intel

#51
Pestilence
Steven Byea i am sure your right lol. Its either that, or its becuase their revenue is so much less than Intel that they don't bother, or can't.

And yes you can be limited by a socket, by its # of pins just for vcc and ground for a CPU with so much more TDP is a big deal, add a few more cores, some PCI-E controller, IMC to quadchannel, and so on.

if you notice with LGA1366 intel has a IOH(northbridge) and ICH(southbridge), with LGA2011 and LGA1155 there is only a PCH, like the A75 chipset(called FCH) if you are familiar with AMD.

So AMD is still using a two part chipset, while Intel has moved to all single chipset. These moves, such as the testing of this with LGA1156, and then sticking with two for LGA1366, shows Intel has the ability to heavily modify the substructure other than the cores, while with lets say Phenom 2 they couldn't add an onboard PCI-E controller, they are limited to the NB, same with BD, they have to use that NB, they are also limited to power package, and thus they came out with true AM3+ boards, AM3 board will be limited and so on.

Its a lot of confusion, Intel doesn't bring out new sockets every year.
Socket 2011 should be good till atleast 2013 as well as 1155. With Ivy Bridge and IB-E looming next year.. Its a great time to be an Intel fan
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#52
Platibus
With all the talk about the sockets I have to ask: will Ivy Bridge requiere yet another socket?
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#53
Pestilence
PlatibusWith all the talk about the sockets I have to ask: will Ivy Bridge requiere yet another socket?
No Ivy Bridge will be on Socket 1155
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#54
micropage7
yeah its the same thing that said over and over again
faster only seen in benchmark, and there many things that affect that in real life
40 some percent? its a nice improvement but we dont only pay for processor to build a rig
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#55
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
micropage7yeah its the same thing that said over and over again
faster only seen in benchmark, and there many things that affect that in real life
40 some percent? its a nice improvement but we dont only pay for processor to build a rig
dont forget another motherboard
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#56
Frizz
PestilenceNo Ivy Bridge will be on Socket 1155
Huh? I thought Ivy Bridge was set to release with LGA 2011 mobos as the high end option for consumers
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#57
Steven B
no iv y bridge will first be on LGA1155 probably in 4 core form. As IV is just a die-shrink of SB, it will be supported on the same socket. Supposedly IB will then go on lGA2011.

Honestly if Intel doesn't fix their cold bug issues with SB-E they will have a problem with enthusiasts buying older x58 stuff.
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#58
Frizz
Steven Bno iv y bridge will first be on LGA1155 probably in 4 core form. As IV is just a die-shrink of SB, it will be supported on the same socket. Supposedly IB will then go on lGA2011.

Honestly if Intel doesn't fix their cold bug issues with SB-E they will have a problem with enthusiasts buying older x58 stuff.
Good new for me as I cbf changing mobos again :rolleyes:....this year...
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#59
kid41212003
randomGood new for me as I cbf changing mobos again :rolleyes:....this year...
Lolz, i haven't changed my mobo for 3 years now.

And for upgrade's sake, i still can get the 6 cores on my mobo.
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#60
lashton
lol eah intel where is thew 100MB L3 cache coming, all they do it whack up the L3 cache and call it a new CPU
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#61
[H]@RD5TUFF
lashtonlol eah intel where is thew 100MB L3 cache coming, all they do it whack up the L3 cache and call it a new CPU
Maybe AMD does, but Intel actually takes the time to make a new architecture.
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#62
Pestilence
randomHuh? I thought Ivy Bridge was set to release with LGA 2011 mobos as the high end option for consumers


How many times are we going to have to go over this?

Socket 2011 - Sandy Bridge Enthusiast - Q4 2011, Ivy Bridge Enthusiast - Q1 2013
Socket 1155 - Sandy Bridge - Q1 2011, Ivy Bridge - Q2 2012

Before anyone asks.. Haswell Q3 2013 will be 22nm and might work on Socket 1155
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#63
AsRock
TPU addict
AssimilatorIt's as if AMD's Bulldozer architecture cried out in terror, and was suddenly silenced.

By a curbstomp.

From a mech.
Thing is INTEL want your pay checks for a month for their stuff.

Whats turning me of INTEL is noit just the price is they keep changing the sockets every time some one farts.
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#64
Pestilence
AsRockThing is INTEL want your pay checks for a month for their stuff.

Whats turning me of INTEL is noit just the price is they keep changing the sockets every time some one farts.
A month? I can purchase an 990X processor with 1 weeks paycheck. Do you think everyone on TPU works at Mcdonalds? :laugh:
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#65
HammerON
The Watchful Moderator
This looks like it could be a massive crunching cpu (World Community Grid or folding@home)! Will just have to wait for real-world results when released...
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#66
HTC
PestilenceA month? I can purchase an 990X processor with 1 weeks paycheck. Do you think everyone on TPU works at Mcdonalds? :laugh:
Apparently, your job pays well: not everyone's as lucky.

I would need 2 month's paycheck to be able to afford it.
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#67
NC37
PestilenceA month? I can purchase an 990X processor with 1 weeks paycheck. Do you think everyone on TPU works at Mcdonalds? :laugh:
Some people are dealing with less hours and corporations which are refusing to allow overtime anymore. Its not simply working at McDonalds for minimum wage. Heck I'm making roughly half what I used to because of such tricks. Just haven't been good openings elsewhere to transfer out.

When you are working with such constraints, the money saved from not going Intel can be better used towards other parts. Why spend everything on the CPU and nerf the rest when you can afford to go better parts all together by going AMD?
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#68
Wile E
Power User
NC37Some people are dealing with less hours and corporations which are refusing to allow overtime anymore. Its not simply working at McDonalds for minimum wage. Heck I'm making roughly half what I used to because of such tricks. Just haven't been good openings elsewhere to transfer out.

When you are working with such constraints, the money saved from not going Intel can be better used towards other parts. Why spend everything on the CPU and nerf the rest when you can afford to go better parts all together by going AMD?
Because I'd rather not nerf anything at all, and just save longer for what I want.
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#69
Zubasa
PestilenceA month? I can purchase an 990X processor with 1 weeks paycheck. Do you think everyone on TPU works at Mcdonalds? :laugh:
Many people have family to feed and children who needs school.
Not every one have the spare cash for this stuff.
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#70
Wile E
Power User
ZubasaMany people have family to feed and children who needs school.
Not every one have the spare cash for this stuff.
Save longer.
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#71
pr0n Inspector
"No!! Why is the DBS so expensive?! I NEED one but I only make 3000 dollars a month! WTF Aston Martin!"

Un-fuck your priorities please.
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#72
Trackr
btarunrFrom these test results, the Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition is pitched to be about 47.25% faster on average, compared to Core i7-990X Extreme Edition.
:rolleyes:

Wow, you took the results of 4 realistic tests (10-30%), and averaged it out with the results of 4 COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC tests yielding 110% improvement..

Then you postered it as the title of this thread.

CANNOT .. HOLD .. BACK .. FACEPALM
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#73
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
PestilenceHow many times are we going to have to go over this?

Socket 2011 - Sandy Bridge Enthusiast - Q4 2011, Ivy Bridge Enthusiast - Q1 2013
Socket 1155 - Sandy Bridge - Q1 2011, Ivy Bridge - Q2 2012
my only question about this is will current H67 and P67 chipsets support Ivy Bridge 1155 chips, or will we need a new 1155 board becuase it has a new chipset.

as for this new i7.... freakin wow. ~47% faster with the same amount of logical/physical cores, and a lower clock speed, bar turbo.

Intel you've done it again.

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#74
dr emulator (madmax)
is this chip going to have a intergrated graphics processor built in? if it has i'll stick with what i've got
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#75
TheGuruStud
AssimilatorIt's as if AMD's Bulldozer architecture cried out in terror, and was suddenly silenced.

By a curbstomp.

From a mech.
Believing intel marketing is like believing in sky fairies. None of it's real :laugh:

Regarding AVX, intel's is flawed. It won't be able to chew through it like bulldozer (theoretically lol).
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