Tuesday, November 8th 2011

AMD 1090FX and 1070 Chipsets Disclosed, No PCI Express 3.0

AMD is fine-tuning its product development cycle to deliver a new processor architecture towards the end of each year, and a new chipset towards the beginning of one, maintaining platform compatibility and longevity. The company launched its socket AM3+ compliant 9-series chipset months ahead of its first-generation Bulldozer FX processor family, though it looks like in the year 2012 it will launch a new line of desktop chipset, in all likelihood it will precede the launch of second-generation Bulldozer (codenamed "Piledriver") processors.

In 2012, AMD chipset family will be led by the 10-series chipset. At the very top is AMD 1090FX northbridge, followed by 1070. 1090FX will be designed to give out two PCI-Express x16 links, which can then drive up to four graphics cards. The 1070, on the other hand, gives out just one x16 link, which can drive up to two graphics cards. AMD will scrap its present model of 990X and 970, in which the northbridge is essentially the same piece of silicon, with the 990X having lane switches and supporting CrossFireX. A big revelation here is that the 10-series chipset will not feature PCI Express Gen 3.0. We'd normally expect AMD to be at the forefront of supporting new technologies. If we remember, AMD 790FX was the first AMD platform chipset in the industry to feature PCI-Express 2.0. Also, it is highly likely that AMD's Radeon HD 7000 series graphics, which are slated for later this year, will support PCI-Express 3.0 interface.
On the upside, though, 10-series chipset will be backed by the new SB1050 southbridge, which outpaces Intel's 7-series chipset in terms of connectivity. To begin with, SB1050 will pack a massive 8-port SATA 6 Gb/s RAID controller. All ports will run support 6 Gb/s data-rate. The SB1050 will also integrate native USB 3.0 SuperSpeed controllers. They will also streamline inventory management for manufacturers, as the chipset will be compatible with existing processor platforms. Some industry sources we spoke to commented that PCI-Express 3.0 chipset support is unlikely till Piledriver processors start selling.
Source: DonanimHaber
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38 Comments on AMD 1090FX and 1070 Chipsets Disclosed, No PCI Express 3.0

#26
Yellow&Nerdy?
Isn't AMD practically shooting itself in the foot by not offering PCI-E 3.0 on their motherboards, all the while using PCI-E 3.0 support to market their next-gen 7000-series graphics cards?
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#27
HumanSmoke
PopcornMachineVery curious about the lack of PCIE 3.0. Don't think it really matters personally, but if they going to make GPUs that use it why not make motherboard chipsets that support it?
Since the HD 7xxx series are certainly going to use ( the largely superfluous for graphics) PCI-E 3.0 as a major bullet-point in the selling of the cards, it should lead to some interesting disclaimers:

HD 7970 PCI-E 3.0*

* Requires PCI-E 3.0 compliant (Intel chipset) CPU and motherboard

Red = Font size 0.5......micron

Does this mean that AMD's future batches of slide decks for graphics will all be based on numbers from SB-E equipped systems ?
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#28
seronx
Yellow&Nerdy?Isn't AMD practically shooting itself in the foot by not offering PCI-E 3.0 on their motherboards, all the while using PCI-E 3.0 support to market their next-gen 7000-series graphics cards?
most of it is rumours

March/April timeline will probably hear more about the X90FX/X70 boards
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#29
faramir
Yellow&Nerdy?Isn't AMD practically shooting itself in the foot by not offering PCI-E 3.0 on their motherboards, all the while using PCI-E 3.0 support to market their next-gen 7000-series graphics cards?
Not really because they are most certainly out of ammo by now, having only just recently emptied their entire magazine into both knees and ankles ...
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#30
The Von Matrices
I doubt the NB would be shrunk to 40nm; the SB may be, but not the NB. The NB is already really small at 55nm (<100mm2) so it probably would be limited by IO density if it was shrunk. Plus, since it would have no new features, why bother with the R&D?
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#31
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
why the confusing name?


1090FX sounds like a new replacement for the 1090T CPU
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#32
TRWOV
Well, they woukl have to get to the 1000s eventually, don't they? And you can't buy an 1090FX chipset by itself anyways.
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#33
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
I wonder if they are going to try and sell these boards in advance like the 9xx boards, by telling everyone their next chips will be kickass.

I've heard many stories already of people selling their 990 boards because BD came out and is worse than SB so they want an SB system
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#35
Syborfical
Damn_SmoothI really don't think AMD knows what is going on at AMD anymore.
Spot on

Bulldoozer Epic Fail

New chipset for what ? Oh for the poor bastards that bought bulldozers
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#36
faramir
TRWOVWell, they woukl have to get to the 1000s eventually, don't they? And you can't buy an 1090FX chipset by itself anyways.
They could always start over somewhere else - say with "Scorpius 1" or something similar that makes it clear what the chipset is aimed at.

When NVidia got to high 9000s they went to 200-something numbering. When ATI got to high 9000s, they first weny to X-something ('X' being the roman numeral 10) and then to 1000-something in the next generation.
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#37
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
[H]@RD5TUFFWonder if the socket will be LGA ?
Nah, the same AM3+.
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#38
imitation
The reason these chips don't support PCIe3 is because they can't. Fusion could, but with the classic CPU <---HT---> NB <---PCIe---> SB, HT has become the bottleneck. AMD could cheat and integrate PCIe3 anyways, but wouldn't achieve the full PCIe3 x16 speed. *cough* *Intel* *cough*
I still don't see why they don't just ditch AM3+ altogether and go FM2 all the way. Piledriver on AM3+? I just don't get it.
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