Tuesday, November 29th 2011

Radeon HD 7000 Series To Be Unveiled on December 5

According to a NordicHardware report, December 5 is pin-pointed as the day AMD will unveil its some of its new Radeon HD 7000 graphics processors. It is indicated that products launched on that day will be based on GPUs built on the 28 nanometer fabrication process. The new products will be unveiled in London. It's likely that these are mobile parts based on the "Thames" and "Seymour" silicons. An alternate theory is that AMD could unveil some of its next-generation GPUs based on the GCN architecture, AMD's biggest leap in GPU architecture since Radeon HD 2000 series.

Source: NordicHardware
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34 Comments on Radeon HD 7000 Series To Be Unveiled on December 5

#2
RejZoR
You didn't seriously expect HD7990 series to be unveiled just now? They always release mobile and budget models first. Big guns come later...
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#3
Completely Bonkers
Do you think HD 7000 series mobile parts are actually fast enough now to warrant an OEM creating an PCIe card with them on... for silent HTPC? Would be an interesting hybrid.
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#4
Dj-ElectriC
I really hope so, but concidering the TDP of HD6450 i dont see any reason they should.
besides, AMD has better solutions for HTPCs like the AX fusion series of FM1-socket, i dont see them investing in other solutions
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#5
xaira
by: RejZoR
You didn't seriously expect HD7990 series to be unveiled just now? They always release mobile and budget models first. Big guns come later...
NOT 7990, but atleast 7650/70
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#6
Steevo
I would take a card with twice the power of my 5870 and the same price and power consumption.


Do it.
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#7
phanbuey
I cant wait for this series.

I think this will be my next card if the pricing is good.

Although big leaps in architecture usually = First generation product fail.
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#8
Kantastic
by: phanbuey
Although big leaps in architecture usually = First generation product fail.
Knowing AMD as of late, that's pretty likely.
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#9
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
I'll still be sticking with my 6970 for a while. When the price drops on the 7 series then i'll probably make the jump. Hopefully by then some decent enough games that actually utilize available system resources will be out and if that's not the case then i again say that i'll stick with my 6970.:)
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phanbuey
by: CDdude55
I'll still be sticking with my 6970 for a while. When the price drops on the 7 series then i'll probably make the jump. Hopefully by then some decent enough games that actually utilize available system resources will be out and if that's not the case then i again say that i'll stick with my 6970.:)
Yeah games ultimately drive the purchase of these cards...

Skyrim already runs pretty smooth with my 570 (with the occasional drop to 30 FPS with V-sync on in big cities)... So unless there is a killer game (GTA V?) that needs this type or hardware, I think I might be waiting as well.

Hell my i5 750 is already two years old almost (two years at 4.2Ghz - bought it in Jan '10) and is still amazing for most games.

Hate to say it... I think the next generation of consoles will drive the next big videocard purchase boom.
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#11
theubersmurf
by: RejZoR
You didn't seriously expect HD7990 series to be unveiled just now? They always release mobile and budget models first. Big guns come later...
I could imagine 78xx to be announced. Last gen the Barts (68xx) were produced first, and I think got the earliest press.
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#13
erocker
Maybe they wanted something better to do on a Monday?
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#14
BrooksyX
Can't wait. Plan on getting me a nice 7xxx card for my new eyefinity setup :p
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#15
Super XP
by: CDdude55
I'll still be sticking with my 6970 for a while. When the price drops on the 7 series then i'll probably make the jump. Hopefully by then some decent enough games that actually utilize available system resources will be out and if that's not the case then i again say that i'll stick with my 6970.:)
You make great points. I am with you on this one, stickiing ith my HD 6970 and maybe, just maybe might get another for Crossfire but the price has to be super good. Though AMD might also surprize us with a solid performing HD 7970 card for an even better price :eek:

We shall see, until then Skyrim runs great on my current setup and I am sure it will run even better with my updated Bulldozer setup.
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#16
random
Dual-GPU with current cards is already overkill for today's games, I won't even consider letting go of my cards until we see what kinds of games the Xbox 720 and PS4 are going to be pushing onto the PC. Anyway to the topic at hand my 5650m 1GB is pretty decent for games still so I can't wait to see what sort of improvements 7000m will have.
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RejZoR
by: erocker
Maybe they wanted something better to do on a Monday?
Drink more booze?
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#18
Damn_Smooth
I want a single GPU card that is better than my 6850s, to go with the Ivy upgrade. I am willing to wait for Nvidia if AMD screws this up too though. The first one to release a card that meets my requirements gets my money.
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#19
WarraWarra
If Nvidia follows the laptop gpu's as default strategy then I am wondering about what they can pull off.

Not sure if Nvidia would be able to deliver according to a pic below "performance list" comparing a laptop GTX680m with ATI7900m IGP cards.
Not comparing it to top of the line amd7950m/amd7970m/amd7990m "AMD9990.2 = "TRINITY SCRAPPER MOBILE""

http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j447/DGDXGDG/gtx600m1.jpg

AMD6800.1 = "WIMBLEDON XT"

AMD9900.2 = "TRINITY DEVASTATOR MOBILE"
AMD9901.1 = "TRINITY DEVASTATOR DESKTOP"
AMD9903.2 = "TRINITY DEVASTATOR LITE MOBILE"
AMD9904.1 = "TRINITY DEVASTATOR LITE DESKTOP"

AMD9990.2 = "TRINITY SCRAPPER MOBILE"
AMD9991.1 = "TRINITY SCRAPPER DESKTOP"

The GTX680m is weaker than dual "xfire AMD6970m"
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
Select both desktop and laptop gpu's and press restrict to list both.
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#20
makwy2
interesting. We'll see if this move can propel ATI/AMD into some profitability and momentum considering the Bulldozer "disaster".
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#21
xenocide
I am ready to replace my 5850. I was tempted to get a 6950, but it was such a small upgrade that I couldn't justify the cost. Hoping a 7900 card will come around with >2GB VRAM and offer better performance than a single 6970 while using less power and selling cheaper.
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#22
NC37
Course the best news behind all of this will be...Trinity is coming!
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#23
Octopuss
I want 7950/70 simply because it should generate less heat. Hell I might underclock it and try to come up with passive cooling solution with a bit of messing around with case airflow :P
Performance-wise, my 5850 is still enough for me.
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#24
FierceRed
by: phanbuey
Yeah games ultimately drive the purchase of these cards...

Skyrim already runs pretty smooth with my 570 (with the occasional drop to 30 FPS with V-sync on in big cities)... So unless there is a killer game (GTA V?) that needs this type or hardware, I think I might be waiting as well...
by: Super XP
You make great points. I am with you on this one, stickiing ith my HD 6970 and maybe, just maybe might get another for Crossfire but the price has to be super good. Though AMD might also surprize us with a solid performing HD 7970 card for an even better price :eek:

We shall see, until then Skyrim runs great on my current setup and I am sure it will run even better with my updated Bulldozer setup.
by: CDdude55
I'll still be sticking with my 6970 for a while. When the price drops on the 7 series then i'll probably make the jump. Hopefully by then some decent enough games that actually utilize available system resources will be out and if that's not the case then i again say that i'll stick with my 6970.:)
Just wanted to point out to everyone using Skyrim as a barometer of GPU health that it's a very poor choice. I don't even own it yet (waiting for Steam holiday sale and free savings) and yet from what I've read and know of Bethesda's long and colourful history, it clearly wasn't designed to push PC hardware to the envelope edges. It just looks good and is massive so it follows that it must be stressful for the hardware to push.

No. Until the mod community ramps up to around 6+ months from now and produces true HD texture packs, total model replacements, better map viewing alternatives and the very limits of uGrids=* is tested by large amounts of people using more than 8GB of RAM (not to mention it getting its "don't turn off vSync" bullshit sorted out), then Skyrim can't be said to be stressful on GPUs at all. Crashy and buggy, while its got that in spades, does not equal stressful.

Ever since Crytek gave up on the throne with Crysis 2, your best bets for GPU barometers are BF3 on Ultra (no in-game tweaks, no CCC changes, just Ultra preset), Arkham City when it gets its DX11 patched to a functioning state, and Metro Last Light upon release, at 1920x1200 and up only. IMHO measuring at 22" 1680*1050 is done because its common among the plebs, not because its what $400 GPUs were meant to cut their teeth against.

Finally 30" monitors haven't become prolific enough yet, nor do we have 120Hz monitors in large enough quantities to truly test the benefits of deactivated vSync, but those resolutions and frequencies are where you should expect the 28nm parts to shine, and pull away from the pack. If they don't, only then could they honestly be classified as "not worth it" and current GPUs considered to still be créme.

by: xenocide
I am ready to replace my 5850. I was tempted to get a 6950, but it was such a small upgrade that I couldn't justify the cost. Hoping a 7900 card will come around with >2GB VRAM and offer better performance than a single 6970 while using less power and selling cheaper.
Hoping a 7900 card will come around with >2GB VRAM...: While possible on say the 7990, I wouldn't expect the 7950/7970 to have more than 2GB as they need to keep cost down, as well as >2 not being strictly necessary even for 30" workloads. Add the benefits of XDR remaining to be seen and whether they play nice with GCN cores to the equation, and I wouldn't want to load my flagship products with large amounts of lemons either.

...offer better performance than a single 6970...: Probably.

...while using less power...: I think it'll use less power overall, as in Idle + Load, but that performance has to come from somewhere, and I wouldn't be surprised if Load was still "high", where I'm talking about ATI "high" and not nVidia "high". I'm fully expecting the 7000/7900 series to sport a completely refined PowerPlay implementation, that's for sure.

...and selling cheaper: Nope. I truly think this is too much to ask for, and moves the 7900 series from the realm of possibility to fantasy. They'll still be the better value for money versus nVidia's retarded prices but I don't expect the 7950/7970 to sell for much less, if at all lower, than current 6950/6970 prices. And that's just fine.
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#25
chron
just spoke with a guy from AMD. the 7990 will have 16gb of vram, have an octal core gpu @4.7GHz, require a minimum 2700 watt psu, and will be 7 feet long :eek:
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