Thursday, January 12th 2012

AMD Trinity APU Pictured in its Three Package Options

At CES, AMD is grabbing some eyeballs with a fascinating real-world capability demo of the AMD "Trinity" accelerated processing unit. At the same booth, AMD displayed the Trinity silicon in three different packages, for three different form-factors. The first one (to the left), also pictured in the earlier article, is a compact FP2 BGA (ball-grid array) package, designed for ultra-compact notebooks, ultrabooks, etc.

The second one (center) is the FS1r2 uPGA package for mainstream notebooks with slightly relaxed space and board footprint constraints. Unlike the FP2 BGA package, the FS1r2 uPGA is socketed, with extremely tiny pins. The FS1r2 uPGA is significantly bigger than FP2 BGA. The third, more familiar-looking package is the FM2, for desktops. FM2 is an updated version of FM1, on which current Llano A-series desktop APUs are based. Unfortunately, FM1 and FM2 are not compatible in any way. Learn more about the FM2 package in our older article detailing it, here.
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41 Comments on AMD Trinity APU Pictured in its Three Package Options

#1
Delta6326
Interesting sizes. I would lol if some bent the pins on those, but that would be hard to do if they are tiny.
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#2
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
With socketed notebook CPUs, Intel and AMD can afford to make those pins delicate and tiny, there's far lesser scope of people actually handling the CPU of their notebooks, most notebooks are branded, whatever CPU upgrades are performed are done by professional technicians, if you want to retain warranties.
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#3
Horrux
Wow, that demo was extremely impressive.

I knew AMD had an ace up its sleeve! :D
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#4
Fiery
FinalWire / AIDA64 Developer
I'm pretty sure the one on the left is the FP2 package, and not the FT2. FT2 was supposed to be the package of the Krishna core, the next "Atom killer" low-power platform.
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#6
Fiery
FinalWire / AIDA64 Developer
by: theoneandonlymrk
this platform is the atom killer dude
Trinity is the successor to Llano, it's the mainstream desktop and mainstream mobile platform by AMD. Hence it is supposed to "kill" Ivy Bridge, and not Atom.
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#7
D4S4
that's a big ass die.
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#8
scazbala86
by: Fiery
Trinity is the successor to Llano, it's the mainstream desktop and mainstream mobile platform by AMD. Hence it is supposed to "kill" Ivy Bridge, and not Atom.
by: btarunr
The first one (to the left), also pictured in the earlier article, is a compact FP2 BGA (ball-grid array) package, designed for ultra-compact notebooks, ultrabooks, etc.
If I had to guess, the etc. means the FP2 package may move into the same arena as Atom, in which case, it will definitely kill it.
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#9
eidairaman1
i just wonder if FM2 is the Desktop Socket that will phase out FM1 and AM3+ eventually.
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#10
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
AMD has started killing of intel. and like always AMD is starting at the bottom and going to the top :D
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#11
eidairaman1
Thats what they Did with Duron, Athlon, Athlon XP. then Sempron, Athlon 64, Athlon 64 FX.

If FM2 is the Piledriver/Bulldozer Gen 2 Socket, cant wait to see it in action and maybe even a Dual FX Platform.
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#12
Ferrum Master
BTW Bulldozer patch is out. Any real bench numbers around?
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#13
Fiery
FinalWire / AIDA64 Developer
by: eidairaman1
i just wonder if FM2 is the Desktop Socket that will phase out FM1 and AM3+ eventually.
FM2 will effectively replace FM1. AM3+ is a different matter, it will keep living through 2012 as AMD's HEDT (High-End Desktop) platform, but even AMD have no definitive plans about how long will AM3+ last. If AMD eventually decide to give up HEDT, then they will kill AM3+ and so only FM2 remains on the desktop.
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#14
Jermelescu
As far as I know, there's a 17W version of Trinity, perfect for ultrathins. I wonder about its performance compared to intel's ones in ultrabooks.
I was waiting for AMD to hit the ultrathin market with their APUs, if the performance & price are good, I'll consider buying one.
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#15
eidairaman1
by: Fiery
FM2 will effectively replace FM1. AM3+ is a different matter, it will keep living through 2012 as AMD's HEDT (High-End Desktop) platform, but even AMD have no definitive plans about how long will AM3+ last. If AMD eventually decide to give up HEDT, then they will kill AM3+ and so only FM2 remains on the desktop.
Im not too worried about HPD,

I still suspect FM2 will be the HPD/Mainstream depending on which chipset, APU/CPU and video card you select. I think reason AM3+ is sticking around is for upgrade paths for those adopted it which I like considering It really sucks those who adopted 1366/1156 got shafted with upgrade path...
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#17
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: scazbala86
If I had to guess, the etc. means the FP2 package may move into the same arena as Atom, in which case, it will definitely kill it.
No, FP2 will move into the same 'area' as Intel's BGA1023 (31 x 24 mm) package, on which some of its Core i3 and Core i5 "Sandy Bridge" chips are based.

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#18
ensabrenoir
Kill intel......that sounds familar.....

Good show nontheless time will tell.
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#19
meirb111
the real question is did they improve the cpu part?

the real question is did they improve the cpu part or only the gpu part
if they didnt improve the cpu than its not much of a "must buy" for the desktop users
only for laptop users
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#20
seronx
by: meirb111
the real question is did they improve the cpu part or only the gpu part
if they didnt improve the cpu than its not much of a "must buy" for the desktop users
only for laptop users
Trinity is 25% faster in the CPU part but that is mostly frequency I believe

3870K is stock 3.0GHz

4 x 4 x 3.0GHz = 48 GFlops x 1.25 = 60GFlops

60 GFlops = 16 x Z GHz
--- 16 = 3.75GHz

So, A8-58(or 9)70K will be 3.8GHz



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#21
Horrux
Am I the only one who is thoroughly impressed by the demo?
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#22
Steevo
Everyone is, but in the back of their mind they worry about the flops we have experienced with Phenom, Bulldozer and their marketing and disclosures.
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#23
Jermelescu
Can't wait for an ultrathin [or how AMD's gonna call them]. But I'd love one at most 13mm thick at the back. That would ROCK!
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#24
seronx
by: Jermelescu
Can't wait for an ultrathin [or how AMD's gonna call them].
Ultrathin Notebooks (Ultrathins for short)



I like how I can just find an image these days and slap it into one of my posts and it pretty much explains everything for me instead of going to some white paper....and copy and pastinian
(It was so difficulty for Bulldozer, AMD <3s Trinity a lot more than Bulldozer)
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#25
Horrux
I think AMD has all the reasons in the world to love their APUs to death.

In the CPU segment, they can't hope to compete toe-to-toe with Intel.
In the GPU segment, they are competing toe-to-toe with nVidia, and successfully.
In the APU segment, they have no competition. And Intel can't come and steal AMD's cheese in that market.

So yeah, pushing the APUs seems to me like an extremely smart move on their part.
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