Monday, October 15th 2012

Windows 8 Gets "Overwhelmingly Negative" Response from Vendors, Expectations Plummet

An analyst with Topeka Capital, who was touring Asia, meeting sources among supply chains, brings bad news to Microsoft investors. Analyst Brian White notes that the sentiment (among vendors and parts of the supply chain) about Windows 8 remains "overwhelmingly negative." Expectations from Microsoft's new client operating system plummet, as vendors don't see much activity following the October 26 launch.

"Although October is expected to be the sweet spot for the notebook ramp for Windows 8, and further follow through is likely in November, we were warned of idle facilities in December," notes White. "One of our contacts does not expect Windows 8 to be material until the second-half of 2013," he added. In related news, the industry is also reeling from a disappointing reception from Intel's 2011-12 pet project in the client computing space, Ultrabook. "...the enthusiasm around the Ultrabook ramp has also deteriorated as the cost structure remains too high under Intel's specifications," White notes.Source: Business Insider
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231 Comments on Windows 8 Gets "Overwhelmingly Negative" Response from Vendors, Expectations Plummet

#1
Depth
by: v12dock
Windows 8 is great... With start8
I think you mean gr8.
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#2
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
by: Wile E
I thought of another way I would use Windows 8 with the start screen. Allow me to get rid of the tiles, and use tiny icons and a list or details view like explorer, but with folder nesting like in the left hand pane of explorer.

Essentially, a full screen classic Start Menu. That sounds like a decent compromise.
That was what I was hoping the start screen would be. Or be able to fully customize the tiles re size and placement. That would be pretty nice imo.
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#3
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Silly question Windows 7 ultimate allows for dual CPU's I plan on going to dual CPU's in the next build is Windows 8 PRO going to allow this since it is replacing 7 ultimate or is Microsoft saying to hell with multi-CPU owners with standard desktops?
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#4
Am*
While Windows 8's Metro UI is still a giant turd IMHO, I'm going to be buying Windows 8 for the unified printer drivers and the return of audio hardware acceleration, if nothing else.

Going to be a major pain in the ass to re-learn the ins and outs and having to disable all the bloatware crap that it will come with (which is what I did the first few weeks after I got Windows 7, Vista and XP)...and fixing the UI of course, without reverting to third party registry-probing malware.
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#5
Lazzer408
by: Am*
I'm going to be buying Windows 8 for the unified printer drivers and the return of audio hardware acceleration
Audio hardware acceleration :confused:

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#7
Ravenas
Windows 8 is Microsoft's 3rd attempt to reincarnate the Zune interface...

1st was Zune... Failed.
2nd was Windows Phone... Failed.
3rd is Windows 8... Expected to fail.
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#8
Dos101
by: eidairaman1
If MS puts Aero back in for 8 Ill upgrade the machines here
Aero means that much to you? It tended to slow down systems at the expense of eye candy so that's why they removed it. Taskbar is still transparent though.

by: Ravenas
Windows 8 is Microsoft's 3rd attempt to reincarnate the Zune interface...

1st was Zune... Failed.
2nd was Windows Phone... Failed.
3rd is Windows 8... Expected to fail.
Man I loved my Zune, Microsoft's downfall was the lack of apps for the Zune HD. If it had that, I would have a Zune a opposed to an ipod right now. Zune software is also way better than iTunes.

Windows Phone is picking up steam now, people who are bored of IOS or sick of Android are looking at Windows Phone, so I see a bright future for it.

For every analyst/vendor/tech writer who says it will fail there is one that says it will do great, so you're basically just generalizing.
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#9
Prima.Vera
by: Am*
... I'm going to be buying Windows 8 for the unified printer drivers and the return of audio hardware acceleration, if nothing else.
Quick, post a link or two before I call you a BULLSHITTER!!! :shadedshu:eek::confused:
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#10
Am*
by: Prima.Vera
Quick, post a link or two before I call you a BULLSHITTER!!! :shadedshu:eek::confused:
Luckily for you, I bookmarked both articles. I'm not going to post links to every article I comment in, next time Google it yourself, yer' lazy bugger...

Here's the lengthy post from Microsoft about their printer drivers' overhaul.

And here's the one I read regarding audio improvements. Since almost nobody has givan a single shit about audio latency and hardware acceleration improvements (since the days of ye' good olde XP), don't expect Microsoft to brag about any of it in their blogs until the release of the final OS, where they will put those improvements in the bottom of some 100,000 page manual.
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#11
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
by: Am*
Luckily for you, I bookmarked both articles. I'm not going to post links to every article I comment in, next time Google it yourself, yer' lazy bugger...

Here's the lengthy post from Microsoft about their printer drivers' overhaul.

And here's the one I read regarding audio improvements. Since almost nobody has givan a single shit about audio latency and hardware acceleration improvements (since the days of ye' good olde XP), don't expect Microsoft to brag about any of it in their blogs until the release of the final OS, where they will put those improvements in the bottom of some 100,000 page manual.
It's your job to back up your statements.
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#12
Prima.Vera
by: Am*
Luckily for you, I bookmarked both articles. I'm not going to post links to every article I comment in, next time Google it yourself, yer' lazy bugger...

Here's the lengthy post from Microsoft about their printer drivers' overhaul.

And here's the one I read regarding audio improvements. Since almost nobody has givan a single shit about audio latency and hardware acceleration improvements (since the days of ye' good olde XP), don't expect Microsoft to brag about any of it in their blogs until the release of the final OS, where they will put those improvements in the bottom of some 100,000 page manual.
I see some improvements on the audio part, but still no 3D Hardware sound support or 3D spatial sound reference...
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#16
ShiBDiB
by: Dos101
Zune software is also way better than iTunes.
WOAH WOAH WOAH

No.. just no.. the zune software was one of the worst software experiences ive ever had to endure.
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#17
eidairaman1
Aero never slowed down even a maching using 2 GB of ram and a P4 or even the Athlon XP machine. (It might of during vista)

by: Dos101
Aero means that much to you? It tended to slow down systems at the expense of eye candy so that's why they removed it. Taskbar is still transparent though.



Man I loved my Zune, Microsoft's downfall was the lack of apps for the Zune HD. If it had that, I would have a Zune a opposed to an ipod right now. Zune software is also way better than iTunes.

Windows Phone is picking up steam now, people who are bored of IOS or sick of Android are looking at Windows Phone, so I see a bright future for it.

For every analyst/vendor/tech writer who says it will fail there is one that says it will do great, so you're basically just generalizing.
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#18
Derek12
by: Dos101
Aero means that much to you? It tended to slow down systems at the expense of eye candy so that's why they removed it. Taskbar is still transparent though.
Aero is still on Windows 8 but without glass and transparency besides taskbar. You can't disable it IIRC.

Aero shouldn't slow anything, it even plays nice in my Netbook w/Atom n455 and GMA 3150 graphics without any noticeable performance drawbacks. The only issue there is the battery duration.

by: Dos101
Windows Phone is picking up steam now, people who are bored of IOS or sick of Android are looking at Windows Phone, so I see a bright future for it.
In my case I wouldn't consider a Windows Phone now as it still lacks a good app ecosystem, besides I used Windows Phone 7.5 on a Nokia Lumia 610 and it's too cumbersome for me. I would choose either iOS or Android (doubt I would be sick of both), being the latter my current one and won't plan to switch over.
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#19
Dos101
by: ShiBDiB
WOAH WOAH WOAH

No.. just no.. the zune software was one of the worst software experiences ive ever had to endure.
Haha sorry man, Zune software is actually great, try using it lately?

by: Derek12
Aero is still on Windows 8 but without glass and transparency besides taskbar. You can't disable it IIRC.

Aero shouldn't slow anything, it even plays nice in my Netbook w/Atom n455 and GMA 3150 graphics without any noticeable performance drawbacks. The only issue there is the battery duration.


In my case I wouldn't consider a Windows Phone now as it still lacks a good app ecosystem, besides I used Windows Phone 7.5 on a Nokia Lumia 610 and it's too cumbersome for me. I would choose either iOS or Android (doubt I would be sick of both), being the latter my current one and won't plan to switch over.
Ya battery drain is probably the biggest thing, though I do remember reading somewhere that performance was one of the reasons they removed transparency (hell if I can find the link though).

The app ecosystem is getting there, and to be honest it all depends on what you use. I've had iPhones and I've had Android phones, and the apps that I used that aren't on Windows Phone I don't miss all that much. Things should change though since Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 share the same kernel, so we'll so lots of shared apps coming soon.
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#20
Wrigleyvillain
PTFO or GTFO
by: ShiBDiB
WOAH WOAH WOAH

No.. just no.. the zune software was one of the worst software experiences ive ever had to endure.
Yeah...I'm no digital audio expert and know as well as anyone that iTunes kinda sucks (and furthermore never used Zune myself) but can still say Shib is definitely right.

I will be getting Windows 8...mainly for testing in a VM, at least at first. Was gonna buy promo for $69 but think will just put that cash towards a year of TechNet which I could use now anyway.
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#21
Wile E
Power User
by: Dos101
Haha sorry man, Zune software is actually great, try using it lately?
I have extensively for my daughter's Zune. I agree with Shib. iTunes is crap, but Zune is an embarrassment.
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#23
xenocide
by: Wile E
I have extensively for my daughter's Zune. I agree with Shib. iTunes is crap, but Zune is an embarrassment.
I think it boils down to a matter of preference above all else. In my experiences iTunes is just too bloated these days because it's an all-in-one style program now. The only thing that annoys me about the Zune software is that it will not let you remove the delay from burnt CD's. Every CD adds a 3 second pause between the end of one song and the beginning of the next--I listen to a lot of Progressive music so this is a huge headache.

As for the functionality of the program, I love the way the Zune software organizes (or allows you to organize) songs and albums. It's no longer a library that looks like Microsoft Excel, but instead breaks it down nicely by artist>album by art>list of songs. I'm sure iTunes allows you to mimic the setup, but in my experience iTunes just runs like crap on Windows and changing anything about it exacerbates that feeling.

I will argue to the death that the Zune HD was an amazing MP3 player, as a handheld entertainment device it kind of failed with bad app support, but as an MP3 player it was hands down the best I've ever used.
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#24
Lazzer408
I hated (hate) Zune and iPods. I like my good old drag-drop-play generic MP3 player. Samsung I think? I forget. I haven't used it in 5 years.
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#25
mediasorcerer
Might give it a go sometime in the future, i'm warming to the idea.:cool::rolleyes:
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