Beauty!

these thwin frozer III a simply GORGEOUS !!!!
probably the most Beautiful looking card ever made!!!!
Twin frozer 4 looks kinda gay to be honest
Hope this card can reach and overtake 670

I'm still wondering where the 7950 PE is

BigMack70I'm still wondering where the 7950 PE is

This. Though in all honesty if AMD doesn't release new cards this year I see 7970 lightning's in my future most likely.

So bored with these twin frozr designs, so many different cards all looking pretty much the same. Effective coolers but boring as.

If we're going to be talking to a rep, may I suggest you learn English?


EDIT: I'm talking about the company as a whole (or your marketing department, if you want to be specific), not you as a person.

EDIT 2: Where'd he go?

hellrazorEDIT 2: Where'd he go?

I deleted the comment. :)

I quoted two peeps above and described my situation:

the old one is "boring", the new one is "gay" how to keep everyone happy?

I don't like the 60's retro look on card tbh! we're meant to be going forward with style and this looks like most the others and tacky (just saying)

d1nkyI don't like the 60's retro look on card tbh! we're meant to be going forward with style and this looks like most the others and tacky (just saying)

And that's your right! (I prefer the newer revisions as well), but when I show a Twin Frozr 4 to some other guys they might say they prefer the "older" look of the TFII/TFIII.

I just got an MSI 7870 hawk freaking awesome build quality. It has a Twin Frozr 4 which cools great.

Looks great to me

I have already, unfortunately version 6 +6 pin power. There is also with hd7970 PCB 6+8 pin power supply :mad:.

Hate to say it, but my reference 6870 runs cooler than my TwinFrozrII 6870. It looks nice and it will cool the GPU well, but it recycles the air back into the case where the reference throws it out the back. +1 for looks, -1 for effectiveness.

AquinusHate to say it, but my reference 6870 runs cooler than my TwinFrozrII 6870. It looks nice and it will cool the GPU well, but it recycles the air back into the case where the reference throws it out the back. +1 for looks, -1 for effectiveness.

My MSI hd7950 OC TF III BE does not jump above 61C on full load. Reach 1.2GHz/GPU

AquinusHate to say it, but my reference 6870 runs cooler than my TwinFrozrII 6870. It looks nice and it will cool the GPU well, but it recycles the air back into the case where the reference throws it out the back. +1 for looks, -1 for effectiveness.

Both cards running at the same clocks?

nelizBoth cards running at the same clocks?

I had to overclock the reference 6870 to match the TwinFrozr. Voltages are the same as well. This is with same fan speeds and everything. At idle the TwinFrozr is cooler but under load the reference card pulls away like a champ.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing MSI. Both of my 6870s are from MSI. I just don't believe that the TwinFrozrII (I have to correct myself, maybe the 3 and 4 are better,) offers better cooling than reference under load. It may be quieter but for how much louder the reference card is, it moves that much more air and cools it that much better. Only when the fans are set absurdly low (and temps start climbing upwards of 75*C then the TwinFrozr will do better, but with the same exact fan profile, clocks, and voltage, forget it.

Also the more you overclock it, the further the reference card pulls ahead. I think it has to do with how the reference card throws the air out the back.

AquinusI had to overclock the reference 6870 to match the TwinFrozr. Voltages are the same as well. This is with same fan speeds and everything. At idle the TwinFrozr is cooler but under load the reference card pulls away like a champ.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing MSI. Both of my 6870s are from MSI. I just don't believe that the TwinFrozrII (I have to correct myself, maybe the 3 and 4 are better,) offers better cooling than reference under load. It may be quieter but for how much louder the reference card is, it moves that much more air and cools it that much better. Only when the fans are set absurdly low (and temps start climbing upwards of 75*C then the TwinFrozr will do better, but with the same exact fan profile, clocks, and voltage, forget it.

The reference has a radial fan, they should never have the same fan profile as a Twin Frozr!
I don't think I've seen any reference card that beats a proper Twin Frozr model.

www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/ENGTX560_Ti_DCII2DI1GD5/#overview

Everything possible, I had trouble with this board from ASUS, reached 96C @ 900MHz in MSI Kombustor, have put an excessive amount of thermal paste. After I cleaned and put back cooling, everything was perfect.

The same on this MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB OC

neliza proper Twin Frozr model.

What's the difference between a proper TwinFrozr and a TwinFrozr that isn't proper?

AquinusWhat's the difference between a proper TwinFrozr and a TwinFrozr that isn't proper?

no true scotsman

toxic80www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/ENGTX560_Ti_DCII2DI1GD5/#overview

Everything possible, I had trouble with this board from ASUS, reached 96C @ 900MHz in MSI Kombustor, have put an excessive amount of thermal paste. After I cleaned and put back cooling, everything was perfect.

The same on this MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB OC

I had a similar experience with my 6870 Hawk (temps jumped to near 100C w/fans @100%)- a fresh/proper application of TIM and the card nows runs 10C cooler than when new and the fan profile is much lower :)

The TFIII is a really good cooler imo.... MSI's TIM application on their cards- not so good...

hehe

Tidy looking card!

NortonI had a similar experience with my 6870 Hawk (temps jumped to near 100C w/fans @100%)- a fresh/proper application of TIM and the card nows runs 10C cooler than when new and the fan profile is much lower :)

The TFIII is a really good cooler imo.... MSI's TIM application on their cards- not so good...

I noticed that. I had to replace it on the reference 6870 of mine. Maybe the TwinFrozrII is good but the TIM job sucks?

AquinusI noticed that. I had to replace it on the reference 6870 of mine. Maybe the TwinFrozrII is good but the TIM job sucks?

Worth a shot- the TFIII only uses 4 screws and I had it back in and running in less than 10 minutes. I used some TIM I had leftover from a Spire cooler I bought a while back (didn't want to use AS5) The old TIM looked like dried out toothpaste and they used too much of it :shadedshu