Monday, April 15th 2013

AMD Works on Next TWKR Chip Based on Vishera

AMD is apparently working on its second CPU for extreme overclocking, since the nearly four-year old Phenom II Black Edition TWKR 42. Being referred to as "Centurion FX," the chip is said to be based on the eight-core FX "Vishera" silicon, featuring an unlocked multiplier, but born out of some extremely careful chip selection by AMD. How careful you ask? For starters, these chips should be capable of running at 5.00 GHz with just air-cooling, with potential for more, on better cooling.

If the TWKR 42 is anything to go by, Centurion FX should be made specifically for extreme overclockers looking for clock-speed and multi-core performance records, the chip should come with rather low clock speed, and unlocked multiplers, so overclockers could tweak it themselves. The chips should cost four times the average FX-8350, nearing $800, which is "affordable," considering the four-figure prices some of the golden Core i7 K-series Ivy Bridge chips command on online marketplaces.Source: Hexus.net
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35 Comments on AMD Works on Next TWKR Chip Based on Vishera

#1
Dj-ElectriC
I'm taking this with a jar of salt and waiting for real tests
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#3
bpgt64
i7 2600k > AMD 800 dollar chip...GG NO RE
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#4
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
It's more like AMD $800 chip being better than Intel $3000 golden i5-3570K. If you don't see the value in this chip, then it's probably not intended for you in the first place.
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#5
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
inb4 flame war...
lets hope this thing can come close to ivy bridge
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#6
bpgt64
by: btarunr
It's more like AMD $800 chip being better than Intel $3000 golden i5-3570K. If you don't see the value in this chip, then it's probably not intended for you in the first place.
I just would like AMD to improve there single thread performance more. FX-8350 is already a 4.0 ghz chip stock. I harken back to the days when a 2.0ghz AMD 64 beat the pants of a P4 3.6ghz. Le Sigh.
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#7
RCoon
Gaming Moderator
Either people are trolling or are blatantly missing the damn point. These are highly rare binned chips that are going to be sold purely for overclocking enthusiasts wanting to break records. Doubtful they are intended for desktop use, unless someone has too much money and really wants an AMD chip.
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#8
bpgt64
Ahhhh so your saying instead of playing Buy-A -Chip lotto, AMD is saying these are the better chips and in turn selling them at a premium. My mistake.
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#9
EarthDog
by: RCoon
Either people are trolling or are blatantly missing the damn point. These are highly rare binned chips that are going to be sold purely for overclocking enthusiasts wanting to break records. Doubtful they are intended for desktop use, unless someone has too much money and really wants an AMD chip.
Im glad someone had their coffee this morning! :toast:
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#10
cadaveca
My name is Dave
This is the wrong economic climate for this.


These chips better be in plentiful number, and actually be sold to the public this time. The first was not, and was a pure marketing move. It didn't get them sales back then, it is definitely NOT going to now.


Who the fuck comes up with this stuff?
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#11
nt300
This wil never cost $800, not in a million years. Maybe will cost $100 more than the 8350 but that is all. If it Steamroller based, that is a different story all together.
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#12
Xenturion
When I first heard the "Centurion FX" rumor, I was sincerely hoping it would be one of their sever processors rebranded, specifically one of their chips that offers more than 8-cores. Sort of was hoping it'd be one of their 16-core models. Now we'll end up with some lackluster gaming benchmarks when the chip is finally released, but, you know, they'll probably break a clock-rate record. Not that that means much when it doesn't linearly correlate to performance.

Maybe AMD saw the burst of recent 'enthusiast grade parts' (Titan, 7970X2/7990, ARESII, 690 come to mind) and they're hoping some consumers will pay that price premium for such a processor.

I really want AMD to succeed and to my mind they've long represented the "value" option. I'd really like to see them gain some footing against Intel, but it's really hard to say what will get them there.
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#13
TheGuruStud
Lame, I know they have steamroller chips taped out. Start giving us some. (of course, if it is really fast, then that thing won't see the light of day until mass production is possible)
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#14
repman244
Reading some of the comments here made me think that this place has nothing to do with computers at all.

The chip is only intended for overclocking and nothing else, following some of the comments I would say PD/BD >>> IB/SB when it comes to overclocking.
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#16
theoneandonlymrk
by: repman244
Reading some of the comments here made me think that this place has nothing to do with computers at all.

The chip is only intended for overclocking and nothing else, following some of the comments I would say PD/BD >>> IB/SB when it comes to overclocking.
Youd have it wrong then since amd hold the highest oc on a commercial chip title, intel are climbing though and these chips won't be widely available, and being essentially a garaunteed ocin beast itll only be for competitive ocin contests/contest anyway makeing it useless to me bring the steam knobeds(amd) not this.
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#17
cadaveca
My name is Dave
by: Steven B
The Stilt is saying this wont come out, and that this is a hoax:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?285784-AMD-FX..-Centurion&p=5182662&viewfull=1#post5182662

But maybe it is something else, just not 5ghz?
The original TWKR chips were high-leakage-based parts, that wouldn't really be useful in normal systems, and were a marketing stunt just before the launch of the ?C3? and 965 BE CPU revision.


So yeah, this doesn't make much sense.


Except that I know that Bulldozer (and derivatives) were designed with 5 GHz in mind.
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#18
jihadjoe
Extremely Binned Editions =)
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#19
repman244
by: theoneandonlymrk
since amd hold the highest oc on a commercial chip title
That's pretty much what I said ;)
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#20
Dent1
by: btarunr
For starters, these chips should be capable of running at 5.00 GHz with just air-cooling, with potential for more, on better cooling.
I'm sure it'll break many records on extreme cooling, but FX series can already overclock to near 5GHz on air cooling so whats so special about these chips?


by: bpgt64
I I harken back to the days when a 2.0ghz AMD 64 beat the pants of a P4 3.6ghz. Le Sigh.
You mean when the AMD Sempron beat out the P4.

by: de.das.dude
inb4 flame war...
lets hope this thing can come close to ivy bridge
Why would it? It's just a special edition chip with better OC tolerance.
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#21
Super XP
by: TheGuruStud
Lame, I know they have steamroller chips taped out. Start giving us some. (of course, if it is really fast, then that thing won't see the light of day until mass production is possible)
+1 on Steamroller Chips. Bring them on...
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#22
robal
by: bpgt64
i7 2600k > AMD 800 dollar chip...GG NO RE
Unfortunately it's true.
I'm big AMD supporter (based on idea of supporting the underdog to keep the market competitive), but the grim truth is that for gaming, the awesomesauce TWKR will probably be still worse than two-and-half-years-old 2600K.
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#23
Super XP
by: robal
Unfortunately it's true.
I'm big AMD supporter (based on idea of supporting the underdog to keep the market competitive), but the grim truth is that for gaming, the awesomesauce TWKR will probably be still worse than two-and-half-years-old 2600K.
Obviously no proof of that :laugh: but I know what you mean ;)
I truly believe Steamroller will be AMD's game changer that should be enough to at the very least compete with Intel's current offerings Price for Price ;). In other words, no more hot AMD FX CPU deals. I can see AMD's high end FX-8550 (Steamroller :D) at least double the price of the FX-8350 at launch. Yes IMO :rockout:
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#25
Dent1
by: robal
will probably be still worse than two-and-half-years-old 2600K.
In another 2 years (4 year total) will the 4 core 2600K still have it's lead over the 8-core FX in gaming? ;)
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