Monday, September 23rd 2013

Radeon R9 290X Pictured, Tested, Beats Titan

Here are the first pictures of AMD's next-generation flagship graphics card, the Radeon R9 290X. If the naming caught you off-guard, our older article on AMD's new nomenclature could help. Pictured below is the AMD reference-design board of the R9 290X. It's big, and doesn't have too much going on with its design. At least it doesn't look Fisher Price like its predecessor. This reference design card is all that you'll be able to buy initially, and non-reference design cards could launch much later.

With its cooler taken apart, the PCB is signature AMD, you find digital-PWM voltage regulation, Volterra and CPL (Cooperbusmann) chippery, and, well, the more obvious components, the GPU and memory. The GPU, which many sources point at being built on the existing 28 nm silicon fab process, and looks significantly bigger than "Tahiti." The chip is surrounded by not twelve, but sixteen memory chips, which could indicate a 512-bit wide memory interface. At 6.00 GHz, we're talking about 384 GB/s of memory bandwidth. Other rumored specifications include 2,816 stream processors, four independent tessellation units, 176 TMUs, and anywhere between 32 and 64 ROPs. There's talk of DirectX 11.2 support.
It gets better, the source also put out benchmark figures.

The R9 290X is significantly faster than NVIDIA's GeForce TITAN graphics card among the two games it was tested on, Aliens vs. Predators 3, and Battlefield 3. It all boils down to pricing. AMD could cash in on its performance premium, by overpricing the card much like it did with HD 7990 "Malta," or it could torch NVIDIA's high-end lineup by competitively pricing the card.
Source: DG's Nerdy Story
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142 Comments on Radeon R9 290X Pictured, Tested, Beats Titan

#76
EarthDog
parkerm35Seriously, what a load of s***e. AMD have had the best performance increases from their drivers this last year, and more often than not, are releasing them before NVidia.

Troll!!
says the dude with three posts in almost as many years that glosses over the microstutter issues that plagued cfx for some and still does in Multi monitor configs. Before is pretty relative too... They both seem to consistntly release drivers and betas.

Being serious, there were issues with both camps at times. He posted an extreme and so are you if we are being truthful.


Go back in your hole troll of the troll. Lol!
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#77
parkerm35
EarthDogsays the dude with three posts in almost as many years that glosses over the microstutter issues that plagued cfx for some and still does in Multi monitor configs. Before is pretty relative too... They both seem to consistntly release drivers and betas.

Being serious, there were issues with both camps at times. He posted an extreme and so are you if we are being truthful.


Go back in your hole troll of the troll. Lol!
Notice your nice NVidia card there! On here to troll an AMD related thread because your beloved NVidia has been derailed, or just because you know you have been ripped off by a company you swear by? Enjoy your overpriced 780.
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#78
EarthDog
Lol, I've owned more amd cards than you have read about online... Lets not go there. :)

Truth of the matter is, I run at 2560x1440, and need the horsepower, bandwidth and vram, of a 780 to power through my games at my (highest) settings. If amd had a SINGLE gpu solution powerful enough, I would likely be on that side. :)

So, since in my current situation amd cannot provide a suitable solution for my needs, I moved to nvidia. ;)
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#79
XNine
CaseLabs Rep
AssimilatorAnd on the topic of crappiness, AMD need to get rid of that POS blower cooler. It works fine at stock clocks, but as soon as you try squeezing an overclock out of it you need to push the fan speeds to unacceptable noise levels to keep the card reasonably cool.
Not a concern for most OCer's in the first place, as most actually watercool to get the real performance.
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#80
Lionheart
Definitely buying 1 if the price is right :rockout:

So many egotistical trolls on this site now :wtf:
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#81
manofthem
WCG-TPU Team All-Star!
I'm super stoked for these new cards. I'm seriously thinking of selling one of my 7970s now and putting that money toward one of these!

I can't wait for W1zz's review :D
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#82
EpicShweetness
RCoonI've been to both sides, cant say I'm impressed or disappointed with either. I just go where the best performance for my budget is, and so should everyone else.
Ya I agree with this, each side has it's pro's and cons. The office computer is powered by Nvidia, and my main rig is powered by AMD. You should damn well know each has a pro, and each has a con, so being bias is just incompetent.

Otherwise on the performance of the card, it's looking good, but I'll believe it when I see it. :rockout:
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#83
Xzibit
AMD setting up the demos for GPU14

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#84
Prima.Vera
parkerm35What games did you have problems with? I have 40+ games on steam, and my 7970 has had no problem with any of them.
I thing he means the PhysX enabled ones. I also hate when I cannot play those games at full quality because of this.
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#85
Xzibit
Where are the Hula girls :confused:



one of the GPU14 banner
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#86
dom99
I'm selling my 6950 to get one of these, but only if the price is what I deem to be reasonable. Here in the UK the gtx 780 can be bought for ~£470 on a good day. If they sell it for £400 I will get one.

I have always had good experiences with ATI/AMD cards from starting with the HD 4850. I bought a reference gtx 670 on release a while ago and was utterly disapointed with the build quality, it felt so cheap compared to the AMD reference cards so I sent it back, plus the fan was too loud
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#87
RCoon
dom99I'm selling my 6950 to get one of these, but only if the price is what I deem to be reasonable. Here in the UK the gtx 780 can be bought for ~£470 on a good day. If they sell it for £400 I will get one.

I have always had good experiences with ATI/AMD cards from starting with the HD 4850. I bought a reference gtx 670 on release a while ago and was utterly disapointed with the build quality, it felt so cheap compared to the AMD reference cards so I sent it back, plus the fan was too loud
Dont get your hopes up on pricing. You're probably going to want to wait for 3-6 months and then the card will be sold for a reasonable price reflecting its performance.
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#88
dom99
RCoonDont get your hopes up on pricing. You're probably going to want to wait for 3-6 months and then the card will be sold for a reasonable price reflecting its performance.
The fact is you can get crossfire 7970s clocked at over 1ghz for ~£450 from here

www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-asus-radeon-hd-7970-directcu-ii-top-5600mhz-gddr5-1010mhz-2048-cores-4x-dp-dvi-d-dvi-i

Therefore they cant be selling the current generation cards at HALF the price of the new ones where there wont even be much performance difference. Considering just getting this 7970 actually it seems like good value for £232
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#89
the54thvoid
Intoxicated Moderator
dom99they cant be selling the current generation cards at HALF the price of the new ones where there wont even be much performance difference. Considering just getting this 7970 actually it seems like good value for £232
Yes they can.

It's an open market and they'll charge what they want too. I'll be surprised though if it's anything more expensive than the GTX 780. My (admittedly factory water cooled) HD7970 retailed at £600 here in UK. I bought it for £520.
I think the standard 7970's retailed between £400-450.

And something needs to be addressed about some general comments- there is sweet f*ck all wrong with single AMD gfx card support. However they did and may still do (my concern) have issues with crossfire. That was the whole friggin reason i sold my two water cooled 7970's. Let's not be children and pretend there wasn't an issue and likewise, let's not be arseholes and just say AMD drivers are shite.

:shadedshu

Like I say single card driver support is fine and dandy.
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#90
Colihx2
Not exactly happy about the Dual DVI connection.

Water cooling the card will no longer turn it into a single slot card.

Hopefully some non-reference designs could mitigate this.
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#92
Phobia9651
john_No they don't. Remember HD4870 and HD4850? They weren't faster, but they where way cheaper. Especially HD4850 was a $199 dream. Nvidia was running scared to cut the prices for it's new cards only 1-2 weeks after it introduced them. AMD today is using the same rhetoric. They say that they don't target the ultra enthusiast market and they don't believe in very big cores (Hawaii is big but much smaller than Titan). AMD is preparing to do again the same HD4000 trick to Nvidia. Not the best performance, only excellent performance at an unbeatable price. Add to this the game bundles and ...this could be fun. :toast:
I sure hope you're right John, but the $ 650 MSRP of the 290X indicates otherwise :(
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#93
erocker
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urza26I sure hope you're right John, but the $ 650 MSRP of the 290X indicates otherwise :(
Where is this $650 MSRP information?
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#94
BiggieShady
erockerWhere is this $650 MSRP information?
All that was mentioned is that AMD are not aiming to price their Hawaii GPU in the Ultra High-End Enthusiast range. I suppose that was basis for a guesstimates on all these leaked-news sites.
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#95
Phobia9651
erockerWhere is this $650 MSRP information?
I read that on various other tech sites ($ 600-650 actually). But now that I think of it, it might be just based on rumors.
I still hope the scenario John mentioned comes true.
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#96
buggalugs
Yeeeeoooow. I cant wait to move back to AMD, always(mostly) had AMD/ATI in my main rig but went with Nvidia last time. Just doesnt feel the same. Looks like my 680 Lightning is on the market.
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#97
springs113
If this beats my 780, I'm buying one by dec-jan.
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#98
Fx
m6tzg6rWho cares if it beats a titan, many of my games had issues with amd, with nvidia my problems were solved.
Cool story. Been running AMD for years myself without any problem of note.
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#99
TheoneandonlyMrK
FxCool story. Been running AMD for years myself without any problem of note.
Horses for courses this though fella, I said the same yesterday then tried win 8 again ,,facepalm is all im saying .
back to 7 until I've a single R9 :) and win 8.1 is out , curse your optimism Mailman you convinced me for half a day.
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#100
Pedro Lisboa
R9 beats GTX 780 aftermarket ???

I need a new GPU to replace my old GTX 580 and I'm waiting for the release of R9 to take a decision.
If price will be around 600,00 euros like GTX 780 aftermarket,my doubt is : R9 will beat GTX 780 ???
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