Tuesday, January 21st 2014

GeForce GTX TITAN "Black Edition" to be Followed by GeForce GTX 790?

In a move by NVIDIA that could present enthusiasts with deep pockets more options in the high-end GPU segment, the company is planning not one, but two high-end graphics cards for this quarter (January to March). The company is planning to follow up its February launch of the GeForce GTX TITAN Black Edition with a dual-GPU card based on the GK110 silicon, presumably named "GeForce GTX 790." The card will be launched some time in March, and could help NVIDIA hold onto its own until it can make high-end GPUs on the teething next-generation 20 nm silicon fab process.

The GeForce GTX TITAN Black Edition replaces the GTX TITAN with a product that's not too different from the GTX 780 Ti in terms of core-configuration, but one that comes with 6 GB of memory, full double-precision floating point performance, and probably higher clock speeds. It offers the full complement of 2,880 CUDA cores, 240 TMUs, 48 ROPs, and a 384-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface. This card could displace the current GTX TITAN from its $999 price-point.
The GeForce GTX 790 is a whole different beast. Owing to electrical and thermal constraints inherent to placing two multi billion transistor GPUs next to each other, NVIDIA will deploy two cut-down GK110 chips. The duo will be faster than anything that was ever made to crunch pixels, if an application takes advantage of NVIDIA SLI. The ones that don't, will have to make do with a chip that's rumored to feature 2,496 CUDA cores, 208 TMUs, 40 ROPs, and a 320-bit wide memory interface, handling 5 GB of GDDR5 memory. In total, the card would hence feature 10 GB of memory.
Source: VideoCardz
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41 Comments on GeForce GTX TITAN "Black Edition" to be Followed by GeForce GTX 790?

#2
radrok
Can I be the first to say:

We want Maxwell, Nvidia.


Also black edition calls for a proper waterblock :roll:

Warning NSFW :p


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#3
W1zzard
Both cards on the right in the photo are photochopped btw. Still, specs and schedule seem realistic.
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#4
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Maxwell-based high-end cards will happen when NVIDIA deems it safe to put 10 billion transistors onto a 20 nm-built die.
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#5
the54thvoid
Intoxicated Moderator
Well, this is quite interesting. I bought Titan on release when there was no competition and my crossfire was not perfect. I didn't mind paying for it.

But now, crossfire on 290(X) by all accounts is fixed and the custom 780Ti's are about 20% faster than a stock Titan.

So... assuming Nvidia release this card at initial Titan price, who the hell is it aimed at? It'll still be budget compute but it's amateur compute (not ECC etc). And for gaming? Buy a far cheaper MSI 780Ti Gaming card for 20% above (old) Titan performance.

Or buy 2 x 290 cards.

This time round, it'll be a very hard sell. And if it's a stock PCB without any room to wiggle voltage or power limits, then people should understand it'll be a white elephant until it is BIOS modded and voltage unlocked and even then, mildly risky.

Meh...
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#6
radrok
the54thvoidWell, this is quite interesting. I bought Titan on release when there was no competition and my crossfire was not perfect. I didn't mind paying for it.

But now, crossfire on 290(X) by all accounts is fixed and the custom 780Ti's are about 20% faster than a stock Titan.

So... assuming Nvidia release this card at initial Titan price, who the hell is it aimed at? It'll still be budget compute but it's amateur compute (not ECC etc). And for gaming? Buy a far cheaper MSI 780Ti Gaming card for 20% above (old) Titan performance.

Or buy 2 x 290 cards.

This time round, it'll be a very hard sell. And if it's a stock PCB without any room to wiggle voltage or power limits, then people should understand it'll be a white elephant until it is BIOS modded and voltage unlocked and even then, mildly risky.

Meh...
I'm fairly sure voltage adjusting won't happen again on a reference Nvidia graphics card, for a reason.

After the NCP voltage controller "hack" via Afterburner Nvidia probably deemed right to hardware lock the controller with solder points.

The GTX 780 Ti reference board is a prime example.

You need to solder a resistor between two points on the PCB of the card to have voltage control while you needed to just slice a solder on the controller on 780/Titan PCB.

I don't find this new Titan very attractive at all.

After all it's not going to have that much compute power over a 2688 card, it would have zero sense to switch from Titan to this one.

For gaming? 780 Ti covers that nice just fine.

This will probably sell to people who want to have 6GB of vram even though they really don't.

We all know that the only way to clog up 6GB of vram is to play modded Skyrim or do PURE GPU rendering where you need to move all of the textures into the GPU buffer prior to rendering (Luxrender/Octane/ETC)
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#7
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
Imagine two of these 790s in SLI. :cool:
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#8
Ferrum Master
qubitImagine two of these 790s in SLI. :cool:
Yea I can :D

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#9
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
:roll:
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#11
Ferrum Master
This is gold...

BTW anyone has the ATI vs Nvidia No driver picture, where GTX drivers car later burns :D. I lost it. I am sitting on AMD myself, so no troll intended, no driver thing is true :D
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#12
GreiverBlade
if "black edition" mean "further user milking edition" then yes ... it's a nice move (me being sarcastic? why... of course yes ... )
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#13
Yorgos
qubitImagine two of these 790s in SLI. :cool:
weaker than 4x 780 ti
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#14
natr0n
wow so many variants of the same thing.
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#15
Kaynar
the54thvoidWell, this is quite interesting. I bought Titan on release when there was no competition and my crossfire was not perfect. I didn't mind paying for it.

But now, crossfire on 290(X) by all accounts is fixed and the custom 780Ti's are about 20% faster than a stock Titan.

So... assuming Nvidia release this card at initial Titan price, who the hell is it aimed at? It'll still be budget compute but it's amateur compute (not ECC etc). And for gaming? Buy a far cheaper MSI 780Ti Gaming card for 20% above (old) Titan performance.

Or buy 2 x 290 cards.

This time round, it'll be a very hard sell. And if it's a stock PCB without any room to wiggle voltage or power limits, then people should understand it'll be a white elephant until it is BIOS modded and voltage unlocked and even then, mildly risky.

Meh...
Nailed it.
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#16
Big_Vulture
Money hungry company, they just can forget the $1000 price point. Anyway that is will obsolate after half year from a $500 AMD card.
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#18
john_
I am waiting for the pink edition.
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#19
bpgt64
Big_VultureMoney hungry company, they just can forget the $1000 price point. Anyway that is will obsolate after half year from a $500 AMD card.
Except you can't get your hands on that 500 dollar AMD solution for 500 dollars. Also Obsolete.
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#20
john_
bpgt64Except you can't get your hands on that 500 dollar AMD solution for 500 dollars. Also Obsolete.
Yes you can. Maybe not in US but you can in Europe. For example
Gigabyte Radeon R9 290, 4GB DDR5, PCI-Express $512
XFX Radeon R9 290X, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort $651

Consider that there is a 19% tax at these prices and that the prices in Europe are usually higher even without the tax in mind. Also the models I give here as an example are NOT the cheapest but those with availability. Also I haven't looked any other shop, so better prices are almost certain.
With 8% tax that someone told me it is in California for example the prices are at $465 for 290 and $594 for 290X.
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#21
abirli
i thought ram doesnt stake like that? so wouldnt it only be 5gb effective for the 790
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#22
bogami
In any case, the purchaser Titan GPU for $ 1,000 feel ripped off when they see the same product wound up and unlocked likely to be cheaper but this is due to AMD common sense price!
Thus, for. two years behaves INVIDIA with 104 K middle processor as it is the best not to mention K110 .Wen competition show your teeth become a little sobered, but not much.:banghead:
If you have money you feel raped and $ 200 more than the AMD offers a product that is a little cough with driver .Development has again shown that it is 45% better overnight!
How it will be necessary to wind TITAN black ed. to reach R9 290x FPS in batllefield 4 ...
790 comes very late in the markets of almost 5 minutes before issuing MAXVELL. so no dell. :p So far I have all the games work smoothly and will not throw money away for 3 muns . R9 AMD 290X x 2 will definitely be cheaper and a better buy because INVIDIA still has too low operating frequency and the voltage regulator is locked. these are my experiences! and so far I have buy almost all dual-GPU model s.:shadedshu:
Games gifts are for consoles rather than PC so ty i dont wont thisdoes not belong to product! and price for.. Here, because AMD knows what he's doing we have Battlefield 4....
Otherwise, or anyone of the developers read our comments!:ohwell:
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#23
west7
sure as hell it will cost a fortune
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#24
LAN_deRf_HA
qubitImagine two of these 790s in SLI. :cool:
I'd rather imagine the black edition in TriSLI. Last I checked 3 cards still frequently gives higher or at least the same performance as 4 cards (in games.)
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#25
repman244
abirlii thought ram doesnt stake like that? so wouldnt it only be 5gb effective for the 790
It does for marketing.
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