Monday, May 12th 2014

Intel "Devil's Canyon" to Usher in 5 GHz-on-air Overclocking Era

Even as Intel launched its first Core "Haswell" Refresh socket LGA1150 chips, it left out two enthusiast-grade parts from the mix, the Core i7-4790K and the Core i5-4690K. Don't be misled into thinking that they're just multiplier-unlocked variants of the i7-4790 and i5-4690 launched today. There's a reason the two have be designated a separate internal codename altogether. Called "Devil's Canyon," the chips are made from high-performing dies binned out from the foundry, and placed on extra-durable packages with contact points that are designed for higher voltages, and a superior thermal interface material between the die and the integrated heatspreader (IHS).

Better packaging (mind the pun) isn't the only thing that sets the i7-4790K and the i5-4690K apart form their non-K counterparts, they're are also clocked higher. The i7-4790K ships with an out of the box clock speed of 4.00 GHz (the first Intel processor to do so), with a Turbo Boost frequency of 4.40 GHz. The Core i5-4670K, on the other hand, ships with a clock speed of 3.50 GHz, with Turbo Boost frequency of 3.90 GHz. The TDP of both chips is rated at 88 Watts, a wee bit higher than the 84 Watts the non-K chips are rated at. Expreview believes that the two could usher in a new era in CPU overclocking without breaking the bank over HEDT chips, and could be capable of running at clock speeds of 5.00 GHz, on air-cooling. Intel is expected to launch the two chips to crowds at Computex 2014, followed by a market release in mid-June.


Source: Expreview
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59 Comments on Intel "Devil's Canyon" to Usher in 5 GHz-on-air Overclocking Era

#1
lilhasselhoffer
Anyone else read this, and immediately think "So the refresh is Haswell, but more expensive and clocking more in line with SB?"

Color me severely unimpressed.
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#2
Assimilator
A CPU shipping with a 4GHz default clock? It's about damn time.
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#3
RCoon
Forum Gypsy
For what it's worth, the AMD Athlon 750K/760K can already do 5Ghz on air.
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#4
Ed_1
by: lilhasselhoffer
Anyone else read this, and immediately think "So the refresh is Haswell, but more expensive and clocking more in line with SB?"

Color me severely unimpressed.
But clock for clock Haswell performs way better than SB , 4.4ghz is not bad .
At least there doing something and catering to us , could just leave it alone , hopefully price be like before (minor increase) .

Now if they can hit 5.0+ on air for avg chip that would impress me .
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#5
Ed_1
by: RCoon
For what it's worth, the AMD Athlon 750K/760K can already do 5Ghz on air.
P4 might do it to but that doesn't mean it performs good , can't compare apples to oranges .
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#6
marsey99
loads of pr spiel with more, yet unfounded, claims.

tbh i am more interested to know if trigate has finally beaten the coldbug?


(he says, and will probably just get one anyway)
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#8
RCoon
Forum Gypsy
by: Ed_1
P4 might do it to but that doesn't mean it performs good , can't compare apples to oranges .
Exactly, so that means it's not the beginning of the era, it's halfway in :D
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#9
lilhasselhoffer
by: Ed_1
But clock for clock Haswell performs way better than SB , 4.4ghz is not bad .
At least there doing something and catering to us , could just leave it alone , hopefully price be like before (minor increase) .

Now if they can hit 5.0+ on air for avg chip that would impress me .
First, don't multi-post. It's poor etiquet, and that's what the edit button is for.


Next, you either misunderstand my intent or I did not convey it correctly. Intel has long since been pushing the clock speeds on successive generations of hardware higher. The truth was so often that you could expect the same overclocking jump. A 2 GHz stock would yield 2.5 GHz overclock; in the following generation the stock clock would be 2.2 GHz, while the OC would be 2.7 GHz (these are ballpark numbers to play with, not hard numbers). The switch from SB to IB to Haswell has yielded the opposite trend. Yes, stock clocks are higher. My problem is OCing has yielded less and less hefty clocks. SB at 5.0 GHz was a strong possibility, but Haswell that high is a statistical anomaly.

Intel seems to be making good on their promise of "catering to enthusiasts." I'm just too jaded by two successive generations of crap thermal paste to really be happy that they've finally realized that only enthusiasts spend money to upgrade, when a 4+ year old chip will likely not be the bottleneck of their systems.
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#10
Hood
If they live up to the hype, these CPUs have the potential to cause a lot of enthusiasts to smash their piggy banks and scrape up the cash to upgrade. I will be tempted to go for it, even though I have a decent Ivy system, just for something new to play with. But if I do, I won't be able to justify upgrading to Broadwell at the end of the year. It would help if Intel announced special overclocking chips for Broadwell, so we'd know to skip Devil's Canyon and wait for better chips. Either way, the next CPU I'm buying will clock to at least 5 GHz, and that's certainly worth celebrating. These are great days for enthusiasts and overclockers, compared to the last few years anyway. This also threatens the HEDT market, so expect good things from Haswell-E and X99 later this year.
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#11
BarbaricSoul
by: Ed_1
But clock for clock Haswell performs way better than SB , 4.4ghz is not bad .
At least there doing something and catering to us , could just leave it alone , hopefully price be like before (minor increase) .

Now if they can hit 5.0+ on air for avg chip that would impress me .
Uh, Haswell does not perform "way" better than SB, unless you consider 10-15% "way" better, which I do not. "Way" better to me is at least 25% better.

I am interested to see how these actually perform, both OC'ing and temperature wise. Haven't had a chance to really play with a socket 1150 rig yet, this just might be it.
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#12
TheHunter
I thought 4ghz will be base turbo clock @ max load kinda like 4770k @ 3.9ghz..


by: LAN_deRf_HA
This going to work with Z87?
Yes.


I can't believe how trolled people are @ overclock.net, all claim it won't be and what not, I mean they all take some Chinese rumors for granted, especially when it comes to Broadwell..

While intel CEO/rep said in one YT video conference z87 will be compatible as well.. You can plug the chip into existing systems and 2nd we will have brand new systems z97,..

I posted there 2-3 times, but this bs keeps going on almost everyday, now I stopped all together there, not worth the energy, let people be clueless monkeys lol

Ah the power of interentz xD
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#13
Svarog
I wouldn't risk the lottery if your 4770K can go past 4,5 GHz below 1.3 volts.
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#14
d1nky
I didn't buy a 4770k due to the fact it's rare to find one capable of a decent overclocking ability. So I bought an ivy which cost around the same!

Now in some benchmarks Haswell does outperform ivy by a margin with far lower clocks.

I'm probably going to buy one of these devils just for overclocking purposes.
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#15
ensabrenoir
......once again.....in this tablet and smarter than most users phone generation.....I'm just happy to see true 100% full blooded cpu's still coming. Intel you can have.....some of my money. My hobby/addiction must live on!!!!
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#18
theoneandonlymrk
5ghz is easy to get with the right chip.
I think these could be some of the dearest consumer cpus we have seen in a long time though which is a shame (for me anyway).
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#19
Breit
Is there a plan at Intel to release a Devil's Canyon equivalent on the HEDT platform? That would interest me... 8)
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#20
iO
I can already smell the juicy price premium.
Lets see, maybe we'll get the first 400€/500$ mainstream CPUs...
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#21
theoneandonlymrk
Centurion already set that president and im seeing this as intels go at doing the same 900 $ min :(
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#22
HisDivineOrder
That higher end chip would finally warrant the premium the hyperthreading-variants of the K CPU's usually have.

That said, I confess I'm unimpressed by this. If I were going to upgrade now, given how things are going with Intel CPU's and the unimpressive overall performance improvements they are making and have made over the last three years (SB-IVB-HW-HWrefresh-promise of unimpressive Broadwell gains), I have to say...

I'm thinking in the long run Haswell-E is the better value. You get octa-core, more PCIe lanes, the promise of 2+ SLI/CF, and any advance you particularly like about Haswell (if there are any) except the integrated GPU.

Since I don't use the integrated GPU (because I use SLI and use a dual-DVI 2560x1600 monitor which are unsupported by the DVI built onto motherboards even today), I don't see how spending more on a Haswell-E to have awesome performance for five or more years doesn't make more sense than spending less per year, but MORE over the course of several years for less performance.

Plus a chip with 16 threads (8 cores, 8 hyperthreaded) and a LOT of RAM with superior memory support is incredibly tempting.
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#23
rtwjunkie
by: lilhasselhoffer
Anyone else read this, and immediately think "So the refresh is Haswell, but more expensive and clocking more in line with SB?"

Color me severely unimpressed.
You are correct, sir, that's what I was thinking. Although it clocks higher, the margins available, and the better TIM really reminds me that it's not so much an improvement, as it is a return to the SB way of doing it right.
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#24
buggalugs
They will sell like hotcakes. A lot of guys with Z87 need only buy a CPU, and they can still get a very good price for their 4770K on the second hand market.
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#25
Protagonist
Now they should come up with i7-4790X (6Cores / 12Threads @ 4.5GHz Base & 4.9GHz Boost, Iris Pro v2 IGP, IMC Default Support DDR3 2133/2400, 32PCI-E Lanes, Socket 1150) Haswell Refresh & a price tag of $399 to $449 with all the trimmings of X chips, this will be reason enough to wait for Skylake
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