Sunday, July 27th 2014

Swiftech Rolls Out MCP50X Pump

Swiftech rolled out its new flagship pump for liquid cooling setups, the MCP50X. Measuring just 62 mm x 62 mm x 44.8 mm, this compact pump unit can drive 4.8 mH2O of coolant pressure, with up to 14.3 LPM of discharge. Its brushless DC motor drives the pump between 1,200 and 4,500 RPM, with a maximum power consumption of 25.8W. The unit gives you power connectivity choices between 4-pin Molex, and SATA. Its ports stick to the G1/4 threading standard. Available now, it's priced at US $69.95 a pop.
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28 Comments on Swiftech Rolls Out MCP50X Pump

#1
bogami
Pump efficiency so poorly constructed in snail is smaller. Reservoir needs a carrier .Well that is not visible from the airplane...
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#2
MT Alex
bogamiPump efficiency so poorly constructed in snail is smaller. Reservoir needs a carrier .Well that is not visible from the airplane...
One more time?
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#3
ZoneDymo
MT AlexOne more time?
you are too optimistic
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#4
bogami
HYA since I started to learn as an apprentice already producing water pump casing construction to me are known. Possible within the shape is a snail outside it does not appear. But this is only a small given the scale of the rotor. This pump is therefore more suitable for max 10 mm pipe with higher pressure. The thickness of the exit thickness of the tube fires is suitable ..
As far as the tank vibrations and in time will cause cracking of plexiglass without attachment to the housing ,and flood here ..
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#5
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
bogamiHYA since I started to learn as an apprentice already producing water pump casing construction to me are known. Possible within the shape is a snail outside it does not appear. But this is only a small given the scale of the rotor. This pump is therefore more suitable for max 10 mm pipe with higher pressure. The thickness of the exit thickness of the tube fires is suitable ..
As far as the tank vibrations and in time will cause cracking of plexiglass without attachment to the housing ,and flood here ..
Are you sure you are posting in the right thread? Pretty sure not a single soul knows what you are talking about, and at this point im not even sure you even know what you are talking about.

As far your your reference to vibrations, its like you think these pumps cause a damn earth quake.

But reading your comments is always a chore so im going to stop right there.
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#6
Nabarun
MxPhenom 216Are you sure you are posting in the right thread? Pretty sure not a single soul knows what you are talking about, and at this point im not even sure you even know what you are talking about.

As far your your reference to vibrations, its like you think these pumps cause a damn earth quake.

But reading your comments is always a chore so im going to stop right there.
I think he uses something like Google Translate.
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#7
64K
Yeah, he's using Google Translate. It's free but with free you sometimes get a bogami post. No offense.
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#8
Sinzia
Any ideas about if these perform better than a 35X?
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MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
SinziaAny ideas about if these perform better than a 35X?
Id be surprised if it didnt.
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#10
Gadgety
bogamiHYA since I started to learn as an apprentice already producing water pump casing construction to me are known. Possible within the shape is a snail outside it does not appear. But this is only a small given the scale of the rotor. This pump is therefore more suitable for max 10 mm pipe with higher pressure. The thickness of the exit thickness of the tube fires is suitable ..
As far as the tank vibrations and in time will cause cracking of plexiglass without attachment to the housing ,and flood here ..
Thank you!! This is what needs to be added to probably 99% of all reviews - some engineering understanding (which I assume you have based on your comment) so that one is able to critically analyze the construction, project possible consequences and draw some conclusions about the product. Specially when it's a new construction.

Would you say the 35x is then better constructed (in terms of the snail and the scale of the rotor) for 1/4 tubing?
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MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
GadgetyThank you!! This is what needs to be added to probably 99% of all reviews - some engineering understanding (which I assume you have based on your comment) so that one is able to critically analyze the construction, project possible consequences and draw some conclusions about the product. Specially when it's a new construction.

Would you say the 35x is then better constructed (in terms of the snail and the scale of the rotor) for 1/4 tubing?
Congrats, you might be the only one on these forums that seems to understand what he is saying. Are you a robot?
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#12
Gadgety
Are robots better able to understand? I thought it would be the other way around: It would be the robot having trouble deciphering grammatically incorrect English, no?
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#13
Nabarun
GadgetyAre robots better able to understand? I thought it would be the other way around: It would be the robot having trouble deciphering grammatically incorrect English, no?
Are you saying robots understand grammatically correct English? We humans are unaware of such developments.
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#14
Gadgety
NabarunAre you saying robots understand grammatically correct English? We humans are unaware of such developments.
Unaware of Google translate; Google Now, Siri, Cortana? Amazing.
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#15
Nabarun
GadgetyUnaware of Google translate; Google Now, Siri, Cortana? Amazing.
No, unaware of part where they "understand".
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#16
M3TAl
Guys you do know Swiftech provides performance charts for almost all their products? I took these charts and converted to GPM and PSI. Not 100% accurate but should be in the ballpark. Max power draw 18W vs 25.8W. It must be very difficult to get that extra pressure. The MCP50X has more grunt where it counts, 0.5-1.5GPM.

Also it's worth mentioning that at least Swiftech is trying to shake up the pump market. Who else is designing their own pump and not re-branding from Laing or Jingway? This only brings more competition, maybe Laing will be quick to make an even better pump now.

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#17
KithKhan
Yay for a pump engineer's input despite some translation difficulties. From looking at the flow diagram, he's right about the pump being better suited to smaller diameter pipes.

I ran the MCP35 for a long time with the attached acrylic reservoir. The first one cracked before they recalled them with uber-thick replacements, but the cracks occurred near the fittings and not the base. The second one held up ok but was a little bit finicky to leaks right at the o-ring between the res and the pump.
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#18
Gadgety
NabarunNo, unaware of part where they "understand".
Too bad MxPhenom 216 didn't use that when stating and asking "Congrats, you might be the only one on these forums that seems to understand what he is saying. Are you a robot?"
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#19
Gadgety
M3TAlGuys you do know Swiftech provides performance charts for almost all their products? I took these charts and converted to GPM and PSI. Not 100% accurate but should be in the ballpark. Max power draw 18W vs 25.8W. It must be very difficult to get that extra pressure. The MCP50X has more grunt where it counts, 0.5-1.5GPM.

Also it's worth mentioning that at least Swiftech is trying to shake up the pump market. Who else is designing their own pump and not re-branding from Laing or Jingway? This only brings more competition, maybe Laing will be quick to make an even better pump now.

Looking good as the pressure is higher in the critical flow range. At the same time it suggests a smaller impeller which spools up quicker, providing higher initial pressure, and then tapering off at higher speed. This also aligns with the statements bogami made about smaller "snail", and suggesting it would work better with narrow diameter piping, as also KitKhan highlights.

I agree with the "at least Swiftech is trying to shake up the pump market." They are also improving the pressure/price ratio in the critical flow range.

I'm in the market for two new pumps and this definitely is worthwhile considering. I have two concerns: I wonder what the effect of a smaller impeller is on the level and type of noise produced at equivalent flow rates? It says completely silent at 1200 rpms. It would be good to have the noise levels in the chart as well. The second concern is the pump market is not an easy one to crack, where reliability is very, very important, and this is a new product. I realize the stated MTBF is identical, even so. A smaller impeller means higher speeds, which might impact the bearing.

If the noise levels are good, though, this looks really attractive. Looking forward to tests, and providing they're good, I wouldn't mind a MCP50X2 version.
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#20
Gadgety
KithKhanYay for a pump engineer's input despite some translation difficulties. From looking at the flow diagram, he's right about the pump being better suited to smaller diameter pipes.

I ran the MCP35 for a long time with the attached acrylic reservoir. The first one cracked before they recalled them with uber-thick replacements, but the cracks occurred near the fittings and not the base. The second one held up ok but was a little bit finicky to leaks right at the o-ring between the res and the pump.
What are you using today?
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#21
Nabarun
@Gagety You can use the Multi-Quote feature to quote many posts in a single post. Keeps the thread clean.
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#22
springs113
Well, I have this pump...It is silent and does what it needs to do really well. I have it working on 2 290s+5820k(apogeeXL)+2 360 rads. The flow is great and it is once again...silent.
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MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
springs113Well, I have this pump...It is silent and does what it needs to do really well. I have it working on 2 290s+5820k(apogeeXL)+2 360 rads. The flow is great and it is once again...silent.
that's what I want to hear!
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#24
springs113
MxPhenom 216that's what I want to hear!
It is loud when initially filling the loop but once the loop is filled and bled the pump is quieter than anyone of my fans. By the way I think I'm going to put another ut60 or possible a monsta 360 in my setup.
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MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
springs113It is loud when initially filling the loop but once the loop is filled and bled the pump is quieter than anyone of my fans. By the way I think I'm going to put another ut60 or possible a monsta 360 in my setup.
I wouldn't use a Monsta, those things are stupid IMO. Way too damn big.
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