Thursday, October 15th 2015

NVIDIA Prepares a Controversial Change to its Driver Update Distribution

NVIDIA is preparing a major change to the way it distributes driver updates. You now get new versions of NVIDIA GeForce drivers by either downloading them from the company's websites (NVIDIA.com and GeForce.com), or use GeForce Experience to download and install (update) them for you. NVIDIA plans to change this such, that the latest driver updates will be only available through GeForce Experience, while standalone installers that are downloadable from the website will slow down to a quarterly update cadence.

NVIDIA is currently rolling out new drivers on a monthly basis, sometimes even twice a month, predating major AAA game releases, under its "Game Ready Driver" moniker. If you want the latest drivers to keep up with new game releases, then NVIDIA expects you to use GeForce Experience to update your drivers. Those without Internet connections or building offline (eg: system integrators, first-time installations), will have to use stale drivers from the website (which will be on a slower update cycle), and then update them to the latest using GeForce Experience. NVIDIA's justification for this move is that it finds that 90% of the driver updates are going through GeForce Experience. The part that's controversial about this is that it makes GeForce Experience an app gamers can't do without (and will probably stay loyal to the NVIDIA brand). This change will take effect this December.
Source: AnandTech
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173 Comments on NVIDIA Prepares a Controversial Change to its Driver Update Distribution

#126
Drone
I wonder why they force this bloatware? Not everyone who has nvidia card cares about streaming their gameplay
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#127
64K
R-T-BAs a US citizen, please allow me to apologize on behalf of our often extremely stupid corporations.

I know it doesn't do much, but embargoing GRAPHICS DRIVERS is some serious BS to have ever happened.
@R-T-B this is something you may not be aware of. The Sudanese government promotes slavery and ethnic cleansing within their borders.
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#128
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
Im 100% against this idea. I consider geforce experience the same garbage as AMDs gaming evolved bullshit. Which I also make sure to uncheck.
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#129
R-T-B
64K@R-T-B this is something you may not be aware of. The Sudanese government promotes slavery and ethnic cleansing within their borders.
I am aware. That's still no reason to limit graphics drivers to citizens, of all things.

And South Sudan is it's own country now. Or am I behind on that?
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#130
64K
R-T-BI am aware. That's still no reason to limit graphics drivers to citizens, of all things.

And South Sudan is it's own country now. Or am I behind on that?
Did Shihabyooo identify where in Sudan he resides?

I take exception for you apologizing on behalf of our government and it's sanctions against Sudan. I know you said on behalf of our "often extremely stupid corporations" but they are just complying with our government's orders so it's the same as apologizing on our government's behalf.

You don't speak for the majority of Americans so don't apologize on our behalf please.
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#131
mastrdrver
So what happens when you get a driver that causes a game to crash? I've played a lot of BF4 and there have been several times over the 2 years that I've heard people say that a certain nVidia driver caused the game to crash and they had to roll back.
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#132
Xzibit
That didn't take long

AMDs Twitter response
AMDNo email necessary for AMD Drivers...unless you want to sign up for our newsletter.
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#133
R-T-B
64KDid Shihabyooo identify where in Sudan he resides?

I take exception for you apologizing on behalf of our government and it's sanctions against Sudan. I know you said on behalf of our "often extremely stupid corporations" but they are just complying with our government's orders so it's the same as apologizing on our government's behalf.

You don't speak for the majority of Americans so don't apologize on our behalf please.
I did not mean to offend. I was only speaking on an embargo against harmless tech like graphics drivers. I would assume most would not have an issue with that, but it seems I misjudged.

I don't speak for the majority of americans (I've known this for a while believe me) but I can speak for myself and I personally do apologize for what I view as a frivolous waste of resources embargoing basic tech items.

Perhaps I could have phrased it better. However:
they are just complying with our government's orders so it's the same as apologizing on our government's behalf.
No, the post I replied to indicated the sanctions are lifted, so they aren't.

I suggest we stop this here though. I really didn't mean for it to upset anyone, and admit my phrasing of my opinion was very poor.
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#134
lilunxm12
64KI'm not saying GFE will automatically download the newest driver without permission because I don't know but I am suspicious at this point.
from my past experience, GFE does download drivers without asking.
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#135
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
lilunxm12from my past experience, GFE does download drivers without asking.
Not saying it hasn't happened to you, but I've used it since release, and have always had the box unchecked for auto download.

I've gone months at a time without updating and it has always honored my wishes.
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#136
lilunxm12
rtwjunkieNot saying it hasn't happened to you, but I've used it since release, and have always had the box unchecked for auto download.

I've gone months at a time without updating and it has always honored my wishes.
Before I unstalled it, I did check the options carefully and did not find an option to disable auto download. This may not be accurate right now as it happened about a year ago. But at that time that's the main reason made me unhappy with GFE.
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#137
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
lilunxm12Before I unstalled it, I did check the options carefully and did not find an option to disable auto download. This may not be accurate right now as it happened about a year ago. But at that time that's the main reason made me unhappy with GFE.
Fair enough! It's not highly visible, is furher down the Preferences page, and is not in high contrast to the program background, so it could be missed I'm sure.
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#138
shhnedo
Recus
FAIL


When you gonna fight against Steam automatic updates? lol
You're looking at my assembled-back-in-2006 desktop. The GT610 was from a friend who just gave it to me when he upgraded. I used it for a while and sold it. Now that highlighted 7 x86 runs on the intel GMA 950 gpu from the motherboard and works just fine for browsing and skyping, stuff my mother uses it for when i'm out of town with my ivy-bridge based laptop. Now, i'm sorry if i haven't updated such critical info on my profile, just like i don't regularly install FORCED driver/os updates. I guess i'm about to die now...
The whole point is that people like me prefer downloading the up-to-date version manually and performing a clean install rather than updating the driver through a utility they never use. You can put your tin foil hat back on now. I'm done.

Forgot to mention, that old desktop had a GeForce 7300 LE up untill 2013 when it died(i kinda tortured it).
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#139
Eroticus
shhnedoYou're looking at my assembled-back-in-2006 desktop. The GT610 was from a friend who just gave it to me when he upgraded. I used it for a while and sold it. Now that highlighted 7 x86 runs on the intel GMA 950 gpu from the motherboard and works just fine for browsing and skyping, stuff my mother uses it for when i'm out of town with my ivy-bridge based laptop. Now, i'm sorry if i haven't updated such critical info on my profile, just like i don't regularly install FORCED driver/os updates. I guess i'm about to die now...
The whole point is that people like me prefer downloading the up-to-date version manually and performing a clean install rather than updating the driver through a utility they never use. You can put your tin foil hat back on now. I'm done.
PC from 2006 and Profile from 2012.

Nice memory bro =] ...
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#140
chinmi
Relax guys. Its nvidia. They know what gamers need. Nothing could go wrong. We love nvidia remember ? Or you guys rather use amd and their crappy gaming evolve raptr shitty kind of thing ? No right ?? So why the hate and the complains ??
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#141
Relayer
Bow down before your regulator.
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#142
EarthDog
newtekie1I wouldn't count on that being possible after this. The drivers available on other sites are sourced from the nVidia downloads. If nVidia isn't offering them for download anymore, then the other sites won't have them either.
why wouldn't they? They would just have GFE installed, get the driver and put it up for DL, no?

It's likely however the driver will have a check for GFE being on your PC and an online element to prevent it. But I highly doubt they count get it.
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#143
Shihab
R-T-BAnd South Sudan is it's own country now. Or am I behind on that?
Aye, but this country has no shortage of -and I quote- "non Arab" ethnicities around here to alienate, starve then bomb to hell.
64K@R-T-B this is something you may not be aware of. The Sudanese government promotes slavery and ethnic cleansing within their borders.
Undeniably true, but irrelevant to why a citizen with absolutely no affiliation with the said government should be subjected to such policies.
XzibitThat didn't take long

AMDs Twitter response
Since when did GFE require an email to work?
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#144
Xzibit
ShihabyoooSince when did GFE require an email to work?
Starting in December access to the latest drivers with-in GFE will. That's what all the fuzz is about.
NvidiaNew Features
• Adds support for YouTube Live broadcasting that enables you to stream gameplay up to 1080p at 60 FPS.
• Improves Twitch broadcasting capabilities to 1080p at 60 FPS.
• Adds support for 4K GameStream
• Adds support for 5.1 surround Gamestream
Adds email registration for driver downloads.
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#145
Soxism
SO if i dont care about streaming or this software sitting on my computer, why should i install it still?

Oh right, drivers, because they want to screw everyone more.

Excellent work.

Guess you can do things like this when you own the market.
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#146
RejZoR
Making registration mandatory just guarantees casual users will NEVER update their drivers, being stuck on ancient ones and bitching how games don't work well. I guess NVIDIA just has to learn it the hard way...

Because today, even these regular users update their drivers here and there because they see something in some news about performance boost or new features. Registration is just too much hassle, especially for non-English users. I know that from another program that also has mandatory registration with e-mail and it's already too complicated for a lot of users...
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#147
ZeDestructor
RejZoRMaking registration mandatory just guarantees casual users will NEVER update their drivers, being stuck on ancient ones and bitching how games don't work well. I guess NVIDIA just has to learn it the hard way...

Because today, even these regular users update their drivers here and there because they see something in some news about performance boost or new features. Registration is just too much hassle, especially for non-English users. I know that from another program that also has mandatory registration with e-mail and it's already too complicated for a lot of users...
Let us hope so...

Also, the regular users seem to have accepted GFE by and large, and thanks to that, it would seem most are now getting notifications for new driver releases as a result, which eventually turns into 90+% of users using GFE, because a large (I think it's large based on how I get informed of new releases - RSS feeds in my case) number of users now get informed that there are updated drivers at all.
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#148
RejZoR
I had GFE and got info about new drivers through forums faster (NVIDIA and TPU).
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#149
CrAsHnBuRnXp
:laugh: so much butt hurt in this thread. It's quite sad.
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#150
R-T-B
CrAsHnBuRnXp:laugh: so much butt hurt in this thread. It's quite sad.
It's sad people have an opinion on this and want to express it?
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