lilhasselhofferMaybe I'm losing objectivity, but it feels like a good card that won't find a huge market. That's a shame.

Honestly I hear what your saying, but perhaps AMD doesn't have a boat load to sell. More just needing to "off" chips as Apple purchasing starts to dwindle down. I don't think these were a ever strategically meant to be used to go to war in the discrete aftermarket. It was a chip developed for Apples requirements and the Pro variant need a home so yea we got a 285. As we see it's was not a performance challenger to the 970, and more just a 280X which AMD still had inventories of that and 290's that are stronger. As those have or about run their course in the channel... now they can bring this.

While I might say this won't be needed for all that length of a time before all the Tonga/Antigua are replaced by Artic Island Baffin parts.

rruffWhen did Nvidia say all 960s are going to be 4GB?

While it wasn't explicitly revealed the synopsis is Nvidia looks to have migrated most/many of the higher binned chips to be place in boards with 4Gb, while lesser binned will remain for 2Gb. Although, the ratio of 4Gb will be the bulk out there, 2Gb remain, permitting them to shore up the more aggressively OC custom that still have OC'n to offer. The 2Gb will be more pedestrian clocks, and more a lottery as to what you'll receive for OC'n.

AMD has for their AIB looked the other way as they're transitioning off the 285 2Gb and offering those as 380 2Gb. There's now like a dozen in the market, but their pricing is still crazy high. I think this is where the "war" will be over the next couple of weeks, and especially after Christmas either 2Gb's will via at $150 -AR.

CasecutterI think this is where the "war" will be over the next couple of weeks, and especially after Christmas either 2Gb's will via at $150 -AR.

The R9 380 has already been as low as $115 AR, and the GTX 960 $118 AR (currently still).

From all the tests I've looked at it is rare for there to be a benefit with 4GB on either card. Processing power is too weak to make use of more Vram capacity, unless the game is very poorly optimized. But I guess they can bin the processors for the 4GB cards and make them a bit higher tier.

rruffit is rare for there to be a benefit with 4GB on either card.

Agreed, and why the 2Gb versions from either are appealing at $150 and below. A good purchase for those looking at 1080p.

It's the issue I have with 380X, it just didn't seem to punch-up into 1440p to make use of 4Gb's (something the 280X didn't really offer either), pretty much point to shortcoming of again just a 2048 SP part. While now it's MSRP moved down 22%, retrospective a 280X $300 MSRP back from 2 years ago, to price today feels inflated. For less than 22% more you can achieve 1440p using a 390 or 970 or some send less add have great 1080p.