Steve jobs is a fucking moron. No cell phone can take down a cell network, there are plenty of other smartphone OS's out there (windows mobile, symbian, treos, palm etc) and I dont see a national cell phone crisis going on.

Apple isnt going to turn over a new leaf over night and be fair over software control, but that doesnt mean they need to lie about the reasons why they are nazis. It just makes them look even more dumb than they already are.

its surprising how apple can retain such a stringent exclusivity of its products where as other companies such as Microsoft get continually sued for trying to do the same. id say this is an antitrust suit waiting to happen.

The Apple clique is a bit different than that of the rest of the world. (Geh)




They happily take it up the ass.

bleh o well, the apple phone is a gadget everyone loves but doesnt want. Its going to turn into the PS3 of the phone world.

SteevoThe Apple clique is a bit different than that of the rest of the world. (Geh)




They happily take it up the ass.

:rockout: :rockout:

InfDamarvelbleh o well, the apple phone is a gadget everyone loves but doesnt want. Its going to turn into the PS3 of the phone world.

id have a ps3 i just wouldnt wanna pay £400 for it though

zekrahminatorIn an interview with the CEO of Apple, found here, Steve Jobs explains that the iPhone will not have any third-party applications. While the iPhone uses a copy of Mac OS X, Steve Jobs made sure that users could not install custom content for several reasons. The first is profit. Steve having complete control of what can and cannot go on the iPhone means that things like ringtones and songs have to be allowed by Apple to go on the iPhone (various premiums might be charged). The second and hopefully more important reason is security. If the iPhone could accept third-party or homemade applications, it could potentially be used to take down AT&T (service provider for iPhone). Finally, the iPhone is limited for the same reason iPods are: Macintosh sells products that they know work, and want them to stay in working condition for as long as possible.

Source: The Inquirer

Why don't we stop posting bull shit from the "Inquirer"......

Complete Control. Hahahahahahah!!!

niko084Why don't we stop posting bull shit from the "Inquirer"......

Because The Inquirer is a lot easier to read/quote from than the New York Times ;).

jocksteelukid have a ps3 i just wouldnt wanna pay £400 for it though

That just proves his point. We'd all take an iPhone... we're just not about to pay $11,000,000.95 for one

jocksteelukid have a ps3 i just wouldnt wanna pay £400 for it though

exactly.

the wireless provider AT&T hasnt existed for over a year...it's Cingular now..just nitpicking..

rybotothe wireless provider AT&T hasnt existed for over a year...it's Cingular now..just nitpicking..

Nah, I think they merged :).

actually, good for him. Think about it. Some jackass puts a third party thing on his phone. It going nucking futs and then he blames apple. his fault, not apple.

PS. Bellsouth, which owned Cingular (and it split off from At&t) was remerged with AT&T and therefore cingular went with them. Bellsouth is our phone provider here in the south :)

I was just saying that AT&T had a wireless division, but it was purchased by Cingular in 2005. At&t still exists, they just don't do wireless(cell/mobile) phones anymore.

zekrahminatorBecause The Inquirer is a lot easier to read/quote from than the New York Times ;).

A lot easier to bring up a line of bs too.... If it runs OSx, there will be a way to put third party apps on it. You think cingular would sell a phone they can't sell their silly little games on? Well if they can program and run them so can anyone. Especially being the version included on the phone has Coco....

niko084A lot easier to bring up a line of bs too.... If it runs OSx, there will be a way to put third party apps on it. You think cingular would sell a phone they can't sell their silly little games on? Well if they can program and run them so can anyone. Especially being the version included on the phone has Coco....

I think you don't know what I mean by "no install third party apps". This means that Steve Jobs and Cingulair have to approve the applications that users can shove on their iPhone, to prevent security issues. Like I said in the newspost, to keep things secure.

wazzledoozleSteve jobs is a fucking moron. No cell phone can take down a cell network, there are plenty of other smartphone OS's out there (windows mobile, symbian, treos, palm etc) and I dont see a national cell phone crisis going on.

Apple isnt going to turn over a new leaf over night and be fair over software control, but that doesnt mean they need to lie about the reasons why they are nazis. It just makes them look even more dumb than they already are.

This is definatly overblown as it is. Notice you cant do that on most motorolas, LG, samsung's either? !

and if you dont think a vulnerable phone is capable of taking down a network, learn to run one first. :shadedshu These as is are HUGE security risks for corporations! Its a bitch managing 400 cell phones, and I know all the big execs are gonna want one of these suckers, just like they love the blackberrys.

Reality is, 99% of people don't use a PDA-Phone.

The people that do, probably don't need a ton more apps that its going to ship with, which I'm sure apple has pretty well covered.

I have a razr. I could easily get myself a blackberry, or a PDA. I just have no use whatsoever for it. I use ~15-20minutes/month. Period. I recharge once a week. Then you have people that do nothing but talk... Two words: Target audience.

(Not to mention this device is priced above the average joe cell phone target. Its not $20, its not free after a rebate, its $250+. HIGH END.)


If this make my job of supporting these phones easier by not worrying about supporting third party apps, I'm going to encourage people to buy them.

Why? It causes the user less headaches, and eases up on the tech support.

Hell of a lot better move than letting everyone+dog load their spyware ridden ringtones, smileys, and random crap.

The taking down a network thing brings up a funny story actually... I was talking with a friend who works for the wireless internet division of Vodafone (who used to be Bellsouth here...), and he was telling me lots of horror stories about ASUS smartphones. Apparently ASUS didn't feel like designing the communications protocols to be compatible with, well, anything. So it wasn't uncommon for a cellsite to crash and reset itself from an stray ASUS phone sending bad signals.

And his final phrase? If you build computers, you shouldn't build phones - leave that up to the Finns.

I totally agree. What makes Apple think that they are in a good position to be manufacturing cellular communication devices when they specialize in computers and portable audio? It took them long enough to get wireless networking to work properly, what makes them think the iPhone will be any improvement?

CarcenomyAnd his final phrase? If you build computers, you shouldn't build phones - leave that up to the Finns.

I totally agree. What makes Apple think that they are in a good position to be manufacturing cellular communication devices when they specialize in computers and portable audio? It took them long enough to get wireless networking to work properly, what makes them think the iPhone will be any improvement?

Asus is not and never has been in the "industry" from a design standpoint where it effects protocols and such, and is very easily why they would have bombed a phone like they "did".

Apple, however, maintains a very competative OPERATING SYSTEM, along with playing(Having played) a BIG role in the PowerPC design.

They are far from unfamiliar with CODE, and SILICON.

Unlike asus, whereas they have trouble with a bios ;D

So first the iPhone is $500+ WITH a plan (meaning it's likely double that by itself) and now you can't even put your own shit on it without paying them?

This phone has already failed.

you would be very suprised...the first ginormus ipods were what 2gb and $800 or something? it is bsaically a pda/mp3 phone which has a huge market these days. apple has a huge following. countless companies are making things "apple style" such as the sellphone "chocolate" and the ds lite. people gobble up whats popular...

They all jump at the chance to be the first to gag on the sausage is what you are saying.




I don't have a cell phone. Haven't for years. I hate them. I am forced to carry one half the yeah, and hate that.


I don't need a portable MP3 player to make me fell like I am in the Bling. Or a geh computer to make me feel different, or special.



Really, this phone will succeed just as the large crowd of people who think that they will be different, and or special will run to jump on this phone. And you will see them IM'ing each other about how different they are then the rest of the fags on the bus or subway, and how great it is to be different.






But in my small world, different is still geh.

SteevoI don't have a cell phone. Haven't for years. I hate them. I am forced to carry one half the yeah, and hate that.

I don't need a portable MP3 player to make me fell like I am in the Bling. Or a geh computer to make me feel different, or special.

There are some people that are ZOMG IPOD! I R KEWL!

But in general, people buy them because they are nice gadgets. I never bought a windows media based mp3 player. Why? interfaces are useless, and have crap for software.

The Ipod fits many needs.

Only time will tell if the phone, can too.

As for not carrying a cell phone... Do you work full time? Probably not.