Saturday, July 29th 2017

AMD Radeon RX Vega in Person!

AMD has been on a roll recently releasing new hardware and software products alike, but nothing has been as eagerly anticipated as RX Vega- their upcoming Radeon GPU flagship for gamers and PC enthusiasts alike. Today we are happy to be able to share some photographs we took of the retail RX Vega card ourselves, which in turn also provides some useful information to digest while we all await more.
After the break, we have more pictures and information from other sources so be sure to read further.

The Radeon RX Vega pictured above has a similar aluminum cooler shroud as the Radeon Vega Frontier Edition except in a brushed silver finish. The Radeon logo and other LEDs on the card also seem to shine red here to go with the Radeon color scheme. The cooling solution is similar to reference air-cooled VGAs from AMD with a two-slot blower cooler design and what should be an aluminum or copper heatsink underneath the shroud. The reference RX Vega sports three full-size DisplayPort and one full-size HDMI connectors all in the same row allowing airflow exit holes above and making this a potential one-slot card if paired with a single-slot cooling solution such as a water block on an AIO or as part of a custom watercooling loop. Powering the card are two 8-pin PCIe power connectors which add credence to the previous rumors about a 300+ W TDP on the card.
We see the "tachometer" style indicator LEDs on the back which provide a visual estimate of the GPU activity. Dip switches on the back indicate you will be able to change the LED color, at least between a choice of red and blue. There is also a metal backplate with the same color finish as the shroud, and this extends the length of the card with cutouts around and over the core to allow air to escape. There is also a dual BIOS switch by the side of the PCB which is very handy when overclocking, and indicates that perhaps we will see a silent and overclocking mode on the card. AMD has always been impressive with their reference PCB design and this appears to be no exception. Note that the PCB appears to be ~10-12" long based on quick visual estimates, meaning any space reduction from HBM as we had with the Radeon Fury series does not transfer over here.
Also present alongside was the RX Vega Watercooled Edition, which sports a similar shroud as the Limited Edition except with an AIO cooling solution instead. Two sleeved coolant tubes exit the top of the shroud and end in a single 120 mm radiator and fan similar to the Radeon Vega Frontier Edition Liquid-Cooled card. If things have carried over further, we expect to see a Cooler Master full cover water block with pump and reservoir mounted over the PCB and a high-speed Nidec-Serve Gentle Typhoon-inspired Cooler Master fan on the radiator. The cooler appears to be the only differentiating factor among the two editions we saw.
Radeon RX Vega appears to have an RX Vega 64 moniker, if Videocardz.com is right. We do not know for sure what the number refers to, but suggestions from others point to the number of texture mapping units in which case there may be other SKUs with higher or lower TMUs denoted by said number. The VGA card pictured above is the same as what we got our hands on and is supposedly the RX Vega 64 Limited Edition, which the rest of the card appears identical to the non-limited, regular, edition of RX Vega that, as per Videocardz.com, should resemble the reference RX 400/500 series with a plastic shroud and black color scheme instead.

Pictured also is the GPU inside an Alienware system that houses the upcoming Threadripper HEDT platform from AMD, with what appears to be an Asetek CLC on a custom TR4 socket mounting bracket. This leads us to believe that many third-party cooling solutions will simply re-use existing AM4 coolers, and this agrees with our previous report on the same. Time will tell if this ends up compromising Threadripper CPU cooling or not.

Lastly, and perhaps most interestingly, is pictured what is being referred to by AMD themselves as a "Radeon Holocube" which has Radeon Vega printed on it and also has a mention of it being "enabled by Radeon Software". It appears to be a display with a screen at least on one side, so perhaps it connects to a system and acts as a GPU status monitor? Your guess is as good as mine here, but needless to say it is intriguing and we will bring you more information as we get it.
Sources: Videocardz.com, AMD Radeon Twitter
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79 Comments on AMD Radeon RX Vega in Person!

#26
DeathtoGnomes
I wonder if the non-Limited Edition cards will come with those same jumpers.
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#29
the54thvoid
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BiggieShadyThe Holocube reminds me of ...
My name is Sergeant Frank Drebin, Detective Lieutenant, Police Squad. There'd been a recent wave of gorgeous fashion models found naked and unconscious in laundromats on the West Side. Unfortunately, I was assigned to investigate holdups of neighborhood credit unions. I was across town doing my laundry when I got the call on the double killing
AMD has been on a roll recently releasing new hardware and software products alike, but nothing has been as eagerly anticipated as RX Vega
Call me different but I think Ryzen was way more anticipated. It has more potential to drag AMD out of the gutter than another good gfx card (after all, Fury X was no slouch).
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#30
BiggieShady
the54thvoidCall me different but I think Ryzen was way more anticipated. It has more potential to drag AMD out of the gutter than another good gfx card (after all, Fury X was no slouch).
True, Ryzen is quite the achievement and the hype was huge ... and the Vega hype seems to follow expecting the same breakthrough, but Vega is more of an incremental evolution of GCN (or rather everything around it) and it will be a great card for the money (if you can feed and/or cool it)
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#31
JalleR
nice and simple... it looks like an old 80's Volvo :D
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#32
RejZoR
But it has GCN5 so it's totally not a new thing people always say...
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#33
Relayer
bogamiAnd we got bricks on which there is a twice as long empty plate, and this for a poorer cooling!
This is 2 years of development in VEGA! Frustration not to mention energy consumption. What will show drivers we will see if they are made within the time limit. Well, they've already got used to long delays . Many will not be able to afford these cards, because of high costs, the price will be too high ! Better to get into the production of heaters . 375W heater with image execution, but there's something else missing, EPYC 200W +, monitor, power supply, and I do not need to buy fuel for winter heating, and I even do have something to doo in In cold days of Winter, because by then it will be possible .....
I'm sure you're the life of the party. :D
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#34
Crap Daddy
Videocardz sez ze clocks, grain of salt included:
  • AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 Liquid: base 1406 MHz / boost 1677 MHz
  • AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 Limited: base 1247 MHz / boost 1546 MHz
  • AMD Radeon RX Vega 64: base 1247 MHz / boost 1546 MHz
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#35
VSG
Editor, Reviews & News
jabbadapIf it looks like a Gentle Typhoon it probably is Gentle Typhoon. At least Fury X used same looking Nidec Servo Gentle Typhoon on it's radiator.

The Vega Frontier Edition Watercooled version came with a Cooler Master version, so that's why I suspect this will be the same.
TotallySo the card for the masses is the one pictured in images #13 and 14, and all the other pics are that of the Limited Edition cards? Going to throw my skeptic hat on and wait till aftermarket cards go into full swing.

That typo somehow bothers me more than it should.
Yeah, it certainly looks like it. Thanks for catching that typo, it bothered me too once I saw it :D
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#36
_Flare
from what i´ve seen so far in leaks and benchmarks from the Frontier Edition,
with used drivers that may or may not be game-optimized or lack support for some performance- or efficiency-features.

AMD got at minimum better efficiency than R9 NANO at much higher clockspeed,
in HW with non-optimized drivers.

In Fact the clockscaling of the Fiji-architecture kind like topped-out a bit above 900MHz,
going further gave very low efficiency at getting more FPS from more clockspeed.

Vega runs at nearly 2x the Speed with better in-game efficiency with unmature drivers, and we know how much good drivers can give you.
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#37
fritoking
Reportedly $399 to $599.... $649 for LE liquid
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#38
RejZoR
I think they were brewing something with the Chill feature, which is why they needed some more time and something Vega FE doesn't have during the tests everyone made which is why it's consuming so much power. If you think of it, they were showcasing the smoothness and responsiveness in those 3 events (Vega on the road). And you get that when your frames queue isn't stuffed. I think they connected the Chill feature with FreeSync or something along those lines. This way they can deliver super fluid framerate and save power since you don't have to push your core to insanity if you're already reaching preferred framerate/refresh targets. I'm just guessing still, but it would make sense considering they have enabled Chill for Vulkan and DX12 in the drivers released recently... The Radeon Chill feature was just a preview feature as it was stand alone. Now, I think it's far more integrated and automated.
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#39
PLAfiller
I really like how they dropped every other display connectivity apart from DisplayPort and HDMI :D Only the new stuff. I expect USB type C on the next generation of AMD GPU :D
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#40
RejZoR
They haven't dropped it. You get DisplayPort and HDMI adapters with the RX Vega. Plus, they improved the airflow because of it. Which is important on a blower cooled card...
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#41
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
fritokingReportedly $399 to $599.... $649 for LE liquid
From where?
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#42
fritoking
FrickFrom where?
I saw an article on Google news this morning, all the same clock speeds and specs listed above , plus the pricing chart leak. I had just woke up and didn't catch the source, looking for it now and it seems to be gone.... May have been wccftech but I cannot be sure since I didn't pay that much attention.
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#43
jabbadap
VSGThe Vega Frontier Edition Watercooled version came with a Cooler Master version, so that's why I suspect this will be the same.

Yeah, it certainly looks like it. Thanks for catching that typo, it bothered me too once I saw it :D
Well yes that's true, but Fury X's AIO unit is from Cooler Master too. Surely they would have used their own fans on fury x instead of third party Nidec, but maybe it's not cooler master but AMD(or should I say Sapphire) who assembles and chooses that Fan on the card.
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#44
VSG
Editor, Reviews & News
jabbadapWell yes that's true, but Fury X's AIO unit is from Cooler Master too. Surely they would have used their own fans on fury x instead of third party Nidec, but maybe it's not cooler master but AMD(or should I say Sapphire) who assembles and chooses that Fan on the card.
CM were working on their Silencio FP at the time (which then got redesigned into MasterFan Pro Air Pressure) and it wasn't ready for Fury X from what I remember.
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#45
GLD
You all can forget about owing one. The crypto trolls will gather them all up. :(
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#46
BiggieShady
RejZoRBut it has GCN5 so it's totally not a new thing people always say...
GCN5 indeed does have compute speedups with half-precision data due to packed instructions, but games loathe bands on gradients so even single precision can be low for some scenarios ... so most gaming related improvements are in ROPs, rasterization and memory caching ... as far as I see it based on leaks so far, whatever they did, didn't help power consumption ... or maybe the driver team didn't do their job ... yet
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#47
XiGMAKiD
zo0lykashere u can see that wee holocube

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/twkZz5WyVJs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
at 4:12
"Displayport to DVI adapter!"
*crowd cheer*

"Displayport to HDMI adapter!"
*crowd cheer*
"We actually really could use one of these last night"

"And... EMMANUEEL!!!"
*CROWD RIOT*
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#50
jabbadap
VSGCM were working on their Silencio FP at the time (which then got redesigned into MasterFan Pro Air Pressure) and it wasn't ready for Fury X from what I remember.
That thing does not have similar fan plate structure though(not jointed fans). I'm kind of confident that the fan plate structure is patented by nidec, thus making similar fan would be very risky. Is tpu getting one to review? If not I'm confident that we will see the exact model from some other reviewer.
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