R0H1TFrankly it's the buyers that need to be blamed, many of them want AMD to lower prices just so they can get cheaper Intel or Nvidia products. We've seen it time & again, AMD is not a charity!

R0H1TLike I said in the other thread, Intel doesn't lower prices. Call it ego or whatever but they won't do so & frankly don't need to, considering they still have the OC headroom.

TheGuruStudThis is wccftech level shilling. Very poor quality. Try with a new account, please.

ShurikNOf course, it's their decision. But AMD was already taking away market share with Ryzen 2000 against a Intel 9000 and 8000 series. Do you think it will not happen with 3000 as well. Especially now that the margin has decreased. So they either lower prices or lose even more.

MusselsWhat stands out to me is the wattage difference from 3700x to 3800x, 65W to 105W for only 300Mhz more base clock
Is this just where the power creep sets in (3.5GHz) and it becomes less cost effective to clock up, or is there something else behind the wattage increase? (better turbos, etc)

3700x looks like a low wattage power house for gamers

R0H1TYou wanna bet on Intel lowering their price? Be my guest, they'll just kill the 9700k instead & replace it with a higher tier/clocked SKU.

MetroidIntel is almost done with smt, too many flaws with it, mitigation after mitigation. 9700k might be the start of an only real core cpus but at same time amd is full force with smt. Intel can lower prices, their margins are much much higher than amd.

MetroidAs per my previous post, amd set that price now, intel had its price for a long time. Like I said before, Intel will set the 9700k much lower as amd launches the 3700x and then you trolls will say, intel was not fair hehe and amd will not move the price and you trolls will cry about it.

TheLostSwedeYeah right, now you're talking out of your donkey...
SMT is not going anywhere, regardless what you dream up...

MetroidIntel can lower prices, their margins are much much higher than amd.

EatingDirtHow much do you really think they'll reduce the price of the 9700k? It's currently $70 higher than the 3700X. If they reduce it anywhere lower than the 3700X they'll have a gigantic pricing hole they'll need to fill with an entirely new 9800k 8/16 CPU. Not to mention by that logic they'll also be forced to reduce the price of the 9900k $100 to the 3800X's price point.

For some perspective on how much intel has 'reduced' their prices: the MSRP of the 8700k at launch was $359. You can currently get it for $349, $10 less than MSRP.

MetroidI see a pretty good debate, sorry i disappointed you.

R0H1TYes they can but will they? Their margins were already down last quarter & they're facing huge pressure in the server segment, they'll discount Xeons first because they need to. In consumer space I expect less than 1% chance of them doing so.

DeathtoGnomesintel fanboism is always disappointing to read. spin away. :rolleyes:

MetroidThey only lower prices if they have to, past 13 years intel has been milking and in few cases lowered prices only when they had to.

Metroid9700k for $400 makes no sense anymore after july, so they will drop it lower, i believe $260 if 3700x is faster in single thread which at this time we have no idea about it, if not then intel will match it, $329 and you will have the option to choose single thread or multithread.

VycyousHere is the full lineup, as of now, posted on AMD's website. Did I miss the part about Ryzen 5?

www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/processors/11781,11756,11761,11766,11771

EatingDirtYou think they'll reduce the price of the 9700k by $140 and the 9900k by... $170? Did you not read what I said about the 8700k? Almost 2 years, $10 less than release MSRP.

Regardless of all that, at current intel prices, the original point stands, 3700x vs 9700k is a legitimate comparison because of the prices of both. Saying "but intel will drop prices" isn't relevant. You compare what things are like now, not what they may or may not be like in the future.

3700x vs 9700k is a legitimate comparison

ShurikNFull stack for the 7.7. launch



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R0H1TAnd they still don't need to, they have the mind-share & the market-share although it's rapidly shrinking in the DIY space. You know what'll be a killer CPU ~ an 8 core APU with Navi graphics, that'll kill 90% of all their current SKU under 9900k if priced right!

VycyousNot sure how Anandtech doesn't know the supported memory specs; it's posted right on AMD's website.

ShurikNMaybe it wasnt up on AMD's site when Anandtech published the article.

Xzibit3700X with a cooler and RGB for Just $329. OMG!!!