oxidizedWhatever, they can keep this sjw cringefest.

Your loss, if that's the only reason you can come up with.

My complaint, based on the preview video's, is the gratuitous use of foul language. Why is it needed? Is that what we've become as a civilization?

timta2Did you have family members or ancestors on the wrong side of World War II or what?

edit: Oh, I see now, it's probably related to supporting racism and/or sexism.

Wrong side? Supporting Racism & sexism? When I look up the meaning of Simpleton I shall think of you Timta2.

timta2Did you have family members or ancestors on the wrong side of World War II or what?

edit: Oh, I see now, it's probably related to supporting racism and/or sexism.

No i don't i just don't support these kind of thing when they become this ridiculous.

lexluthermiesterYour loss, if that's the only reason you can come up with.

My complaint, based on the preview video's, is the gratuitous use of foul language. Why is it needed? Is that what we've become as a civilization?

MY loss? Nah, your loss honestly.

oxidizedNo i don't i just don't support these kind of thing when they become this ridiculous.

What's ridiculous about it?

lexluthermiesterWhat's ridiculous about it?

Everything, the game looks like a total joke.

oxidizedEverything, the game looks like a total joke.

Looks? Hmm. Interesting. So you haven't played it yet, or perhaps read/watched an actual review?

lexluthermiesterLooks? Hmm. Interesting. So you haven't played it yet, or perhaps read/watched an actual review?

I don't need to, i've already cringed enough watching the massive amount of ads bethesda has been delivering daily on socials, all those various teaser trailers or gameplay trailers just confirm that. If that's not enough for you, i don't know what to tell you.

oxidizedIf that's not enough for you, i don't know what to tell you.

Fair enough. I just find it interesting that looking at a trailer is enough for you, someone who seeming likes FPS type games...

lexluthermiesterFair enough. I just find it interesting that looking at a trailer is enough for you, someone who seeming likes FPS type games...

I like very much FPS games, but not these types here, where there's an exaggerated political component, gameplay wise wolfenstein games are great, but that's not enough to me at least, doom was exceptional and luckily didn't have any of that political stuff, that's why i can't wait for the new one, and i don't care about this here, despite having played basically every wolfenstein game since RTCW. And this is coming from someone who LOVED old COD and MOH WW2 games, so my problem isn't killing nazis like someone suggested, but how ridiculously they painted everyone.
The idea of fighting in a dystopian future where nazis won WW2 is great, but then making them looking like buffoons is just something that was done to amplify this sjw thing, and on top of that, lesbian looking characters black women, this all is just to avoid certain potential troubles with politics and with arising movements who represents a few minorities who want to matter just as much as the majority, and not with a pure intent, because games a movies never had problems with LGBTQ or Black people, there the right amount of those in every game, and the right amount doesn't mean it's what i think is right, it reflects world's population percentages.


Besides, looking at a trailer is enough for me, but not in all cases. This here was pretty easy honestly.

oxidizedI like very much FPS games, but not these types here, where there's an exaggerated political component, gameplay wise wolfenstein games are great, but that's not enough to me at least, doom was exceptional and luckily didn't have any of that political stuff, that's why i can't wait for the new one, and i don't care about this here, despite having played basically every wolfenstein game since RTCW. And this is coming from someone who LOVED old COD and MOH WW2 games, so my problem isn't killing nazis like someone suggested, but how ridiculously they painted everyone.
The idea of fighting in a dystopian future where nazis won WW2 is great, but then making them looking like buffoons is just something that was done to amplify this sjw thing, and on top of that, lesbian looking characters black women, this all is just to avoid certain potential troubles with politics and with arising movements who represents a few minorities who want to matter just as much as the majority, and not with a pure intent, because games a movies never had problems with LGBTQ or Black people, there the right amount of those in every game, and the right amount doesn't mean it's what i think is right, it reflects world's population percentages.


Besides, looking at a trailer is enough for me, but not in all cases. This here was pretty easy honestly.

See , that's what I was curious about. I think this might be reading into it just a bit much. Look at Wolf2 a few years ago, that kinda fit's into same set of complaints, does it not?

This is starting to lock more and more like "The Man in the High Castle" books....

oxidizedI like very much FPS games, but not these types here, where there's an exaggerated political component, gameplay wise wolfenstein games are great, but that's not enough to me at least, doom was exceptional and luckily didn't have any of that political stuff, that's why i can't wait for the new one, and i don't care about this here, despite having played basically every wolfenstein game since RTCW. And this is coming from someone who LOVED old COD and MOH WW2 games, so my problem isn't killing nazis like someone suggested, but how ridiculously they painted everyone.
The idea of fighting in a dystopian future where nazis won WW2 is great, but then making them looking like buffoons is just something that was done to amplify this sjw thing, and on top of that, lesbian looking characters black women, this all is just to avoid certain potential troubles with politics and with arising movements who represents a few minorities who want to matter just as much as the majority, and not with a pure intent, because games a movies never had problems with LGBTQ or Black people, there the right amount of those in every game, and the right amount doesn't mean it's what i think is right, it reflects world's population percentages.


Besides, looking at a trailer is enough for me, but not in all cases. This here was pretty easy honestly.

I think, not being from the U.S. you might be missing out on the context. The last Wolfenstein was set in the U.S., where the black, or African -American population is about 13% ( most Americans vastly overstate the percentage).

It make perfect sense that in an occupied country the black persons, who were nearly as reviled by the Nazis as the Jewish people, would be on the outside of society, and very likely make up large portions of the resistance. And one of the leaders being a woman whose husband died is entirely in character with many literary and movie heroines who took up the fight after.

Knowing the context keeps me from getting all bent out of shape and just enjoy the game.

rtwjunkieI think, not being from the U.S. you might be missing out on the context. The last Wolfenstein was set in the U.S., where the black, or African -American population is about 13% ( most Americans vastly overstate the percentage).

It make perfect sense that in an occupied country the black persons, who were nearly as reviled by the Nazis as the Jewish people, would be on the outside of society, and very likely make up large portions of the resistance. And one of the leaders being a woman whose husband died is entirely in character with many literary and movie heroines who took up the fight after.

Knowing the context keeps me from getting all bent out of shape and just enjoy the game.

Well said.

@oxidized
I'm not trying to pick on you at all. Was only curious about your perspective and why you were put off. The 2009 release of Wolf didn't look all that good to me at first, but a friend suggested I give it a chance because he thought I might like it. He was right. After giving it a try I really enjoyed it.

lexluthermiesterSee , that's what I was curious about. I think this might be reading into it just a bit much. Look at Wolf2 a few years ago, that kinda fit's into same set of complaints, does it not?

Yes, kinda, but not at this level honestly.

rtwjunkieI think, not being from the U.S. you might be missing out on the context. The last Wolfenstein was set in the U.S., where the black, or African -American population is about 13% ( most Americans vastly overstate the percentage).

It make perfect sense that in an occupied country the black persons, who were nearly as reviled by the Nazis as the Jewish people, would be on the outside of society, and very likely make up large portions of the resistance. And one of the leaders being a woman whose husband died is entirely in character with many literary and movie heroines who took up the fight after.

Knowing the context keeps me from getting all bent out of shape and just enjoy the game.

In a world ruled by nazis how can African-American population still be 13% ? You even say this yourself "who were nearly as reviled by the Nazis as the Jewish people". Guys come on stop justifying this, they're doing all this for the reasons i stated above, and for nothing else, the plot of that saga reached a point that it's as stupid as it can get, nothing really makes sense, and that doesn't make sense either, anyway you enjoy it of course, after all the game still has a pretty good gameplay, it's the rest i honestly can't stand.

lexluthermiesterWell said.

@oxidized
I'm not trying to pick on you at all. Was only curious about your perspective and why you were put off. The 2009 release of Wolf didn't look all that good to me at first, but a friend suggested I give it a chance because he thought I might like it. He was right. After giving it a try I really enjoyed it.

No problems buddy. Anyway wolfenstein 2009 is actually more a wolfenstein than this new saga, hands down, besides a few things, which anyway make sense the rest is very serious and much more mature than this saga here. It didn't have the same success because it didn't have nearly the cinematographic component this has.

oxidizedAnyway wolfenstein 2009 is actually more a wolfenstein than this new saga,

I just finished that one. I enjoyed it very much.

I appreciated the explanation for your point of view on the other stuff.

Does anyone really care about RTX ? apart from the green army fan boys ? surely a better game is in everyones interest.

JaymondoGBDoes anyone really care about RTX ? apart from the green army fan boys ? surely a better game is in everyones interest.

That is hard to answer. If I told you I'm super excited (not about RTX in particular, but about RTRT in general) because I dig computer GFX and took some courses in college, would you conclude I'm just another soldier " from the green army fan boys"?

RT yields more realistic results, while also using a simpler pipeline than raster techniques. But since you can't just drop rasterizing over night and replace it with RTRT, developers have to develop games that support both and that gives them the worst of both worlds. So we're not in for a speedy adoption/migration, but that doesn't mean you should dismiss the tech out of hand. Be an early adopter if you wish or wait until it gets more traction, those are the two sane options imho.

JaymondoGBDoes anyone really care about RTX ? apart from the green army fan boys ? surely a better game is in everyones interest.

I do. RTRT is the future of accurate lighting and light based effect. Life-like environmental lighting has been the holy-grail of game devs for decades. Now it's a reality and is being refined further as each day passes. RTX is NVidia's expression of hardware accelerated RTRT and it is really starting to shine. Cyberpunk2077 is going to have RTRT and I can't wait to jump into it! Likewise, Wolf-YB is seemingly going to be a worthy entry to the series and I'm looking forward to that one as well.

Vulkan will have SLI support soon, can't wait.
Please all game developers please release games in Vulkan in future please.

koblongataVulkan will have SLI support soon, can't wait.
Please all game developers please release games in Vulkan in future please.

Not SLI, but mGPU. Big difference ;)