Wednesday, October 21st 2020

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 AotS Benchmarks Surface—Trades Blows with RTX 2080 Ti

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Ashes of the Singularity (AotS) Benchmark numbers for the upcoming GeForce RTX 3070 graphics card surfaced, strengthening NVIDIA's performance claims for the card being "faster" than the previous generation flagship, the RTX 2080 Ti. According to the benchmark numbers dug out by _rogame and compiled by VideoCardz, the RTX 3070 ends up being 1% faster than the RTX 2080 Ti at 1080p with the "Crazy" preset. This lead extends to 2.3% at 1440p, albeit with a custom preset of which details aren't known.

At 4K UHD with the "Crazy" preset, however, the RTX 3070 ends up about 2.4% slower than the RTX 2080 Ti. These numbers suggest that the RTX 3070 should still be a formidable 4K UHD gaming option, with moderate RTX effects. It should allow you to game at 1440p with RTX maxed out; and should enable 1080p high refresh-rate AAA gaming; but for those seeking 4K UHD with RTX maxed out, the RTX 3080 should be the one to buy. Then again, AMD's Radeon RX 6000 series is just around the corner, and could take a swing at this segment, with a full DirectX 12 Ultimate feature-set, and plenty of muscle.
Sources: _rogame (Twitter), VideoCardz

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48 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 AotS Benchmarks Surface—Trades Blows with RTX 2080 Ti

#26
steen
fancuckerThis alongside the prospective 3070 Ti will be the primary competition for AMD. The Navi 21 XTX will fall roughly short of the 3080 and the 72CU/64CU variants will do battle with these two cards.
Nah, 21XTX will be much slower than that, barely able to keep up with the cancelled 3070ti. Oh wait...

XT/XL
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#27
Unregistered
tiggerI think you mean with reasonable prices :)
Thanks, I'm losing my neurons fast...
DeathtoGnomesAotS = Attack of the Show? :p

Loved that show.


AMD will come out with a card thats single digit performance difference while being $100+ lower price.
Nvidia cant price newer mid-cards(below x80) less than top end(ti+) previous gen cards. its against their marketing rules.
Not sure about that, I don't believe people are that dumb, when Zen2 released it topped sales, if AMD's GPUs are as good as the leaks suggest they'll put pressure on nVidia, which could lead to a change in their strategy.
Or, AMD will just copy nVidia's pricing and we'll be fucked by both.
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#28
PowerPC
EarthDogThey're jumping high? I'm not sure I understand your point.
A jump in performance/price from last generation.
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#29
Chrispy_
AotS is the single most CPU-limited game I can think of, and therefore one of the worst GPU benchmarks that currently runs for measuring any GPU.
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#30
DeathtoGnomes
Xex360when Zen2 released it topped sales, if AMD's GPUs are as good as the leaks suggest they'll put pressure on nVidia, which could lead to a change in their strategy.
Or, AMD will just copy nVidia's pricing and we'll be fucked by both.
if AMD follows its own pricing history, we can speculate that its offerings will be cheaper than Nvidia, especially since the 30xx series just cam out. AMD will undercut here.
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#31
lexluthermiester
Xex360For 800$ it's not good at all, it's even worse than the 2070s (which was between 500-600$). Ampere's a disaster, very high MSRP, no availability so even higher prices, low vram.
Hopefully AMD will deliver a true performance uplift with reasonable prices.
It's not going to be $800. The 3080's are less than that. It'll be at or around $550 to $600.
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#32
Unregistered
lexluthermiesterIt's not going to be $800. The 3080's are less than that. It'll be at or around $550 to $600.
Just checked the 3080 is still about 1050$ in nVidia's website.
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#34
Shatun_Bear
lexluthermiesterConsidering that NVidia is no longer selling direct to the public, it doesn't matter what price they have listed. Additionally, Newegg's prices are mostly under $800. Two of them are right at $700. Please review;
www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709%20601357247&PageSize=96&Order=1
Yeah, no. None of these '$700' Ampere cards are in stock. None of the under $800 cards are in stock. This is the whole issue with Nvidia and this launch.

Once new stock arrives, prices will be updated and I can tell you there will be no $700 cards listed.
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#35
lexluthermiester
Shatun_BearYeah, no. None of these '$700' Ampere cards are in stock. None of the under $800 cards are in stock.
What's in stock was not what was being addressed. The prices were.
Shatun_BearOnce new stock arrives, prices will be updated and I can tell you there will be no $700 cards listed.
That's an assumption on your part and not a very good one.
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#36
Shatun_Bear
lexluthermiesterWhat's in stock was not what was being addressed. The prices were.

That's an assumption on your part and not a very good one.
Let me know when you find a $700 3080 in stock I'm ready to buy it right now (I'll be waiting a long time...)
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#37
lexluthermiester
Shatun_BearLet me know when you find a $700 3080 in stock I'm ready to buy it right now (I'll be waiting a long time...)
Thats what was said when the RTX2000 series launched and I had no problems getting a 2080 for $750 a few months after release. Patience is a virtue.
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#38
efikkan
WeeRabIf and when these become available - It will not be for the MRSP. Not ever.
Just like the 3080.
Please stop spreading FUD and lies.
Just because a product is sold out, doesn't mean you can't find somewhere to order one at MSRP and get yours in turn.

I don't encourage anyone to buy products with inflated prices.
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#39
Unregistered
lexluthermiesterConsidering that NVidia is no longer selling direct to the public, it doesn't matter what price they have listed. Additionally, Newegg's prices are mostly under $800. Two of them are right at $700. Please review;
www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709%20601357247&PageSize=96&Order=1
I'm not blind, it's listed for 10800yen (1050$) and when available (sometimes it is), it's around 11000yen. There is justification for this price because Turing and all kind of electronics from AMD, Intel, Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, LG... sale their products for similar prices as the US, only Ampere is overpriced.
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#40
PowerPC
lexluthermiesterThats what was said when the RTX2000 series launched and I had no problems getting a 2080 for $750 a few months after release. Patience is a virtue.
Well, I can just tell you there is only one shop in the EU where I live that lists the Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 in stock for 1999€, that's $2371. What was the card at MSRP again? $1500? Maybe there is a bit of EU tax in there but usually it's nowhere near as big of a difference. $100 at most.
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#41
lexluthermiester
Xex360I'm not blind, it's listed for 10800yen (1050$) and when available (sometimes it is), it's around 11000yen.
Well that sucks. I feel for you.
PowerPCWell, I can just tell you there is only one shop in the EU where I live that lists the Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 for 1999€, that's $2371. What was the card at MSRP again? $1500? Maybe there is a bit of EU tax in there but usually it's nowhere near as big of a difference. $100 at most.
Yeah, most of Europe gets prices generally on par with what North America gets. Of course, there are some exceptions..
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#42
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
lexluthermiesterYeah, most of Europe gets prices generally on par with what North America gets. Of course, there are some exceptions..
Before you factor in VAT, sure. That's 17-27% depending on where you are in the EU. If it's 20%, that's $300 USD added to a $1,500 product, making it $1,800. That's a big increase.
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#43
Unregistered
lexluthermiesterWell that sucks. I feel for you.

Yeah, most of Europe gets prices generally on par with what North America gets. Of course, there are some exceptions..
It's the case elsewhere for no logical reason other than nVidia stupidity with Ampere.
Beyond the stupid prices, the 3080 is overpriced even at 700$, the 1070 was faster and had more memory than the 980ti for less than 400$, what's weird is no so called reviewers are talking about it, some are even falling for nVidia marketing (or are being paid) by comparing Ampere prices to Turing.
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#44
EarthDog
Xex360It's the case elsewhere for no logical reason other than nVidia stupidity with Ampere.
Beyond the stupid prices, the 3080 is overpriced even at 700$, the 1070 was faster and had more memory than the 980ti for less than 400$, what's weird is no so called reviewers are talking about it, some are even falling for nVidia marketing (or are being paid) by comparing Ampere prices to Turing.
Is it that reviewers are falling for it, or those not in the know and don't have an open mind, just don't know? People believe, with a passion, the earth is flat... but science. Similar here...some choose not to believe the facts for w/e reason.

$700 (msrp)flagship and a pricey t8tan/crossover card has been the norm for the past couple of generations, no?

The RAM 'issue' was DOA for those in the know as well.
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#45
Zach_01
PowerPCWell, I can just tell you there is only one shop in the EU where I live that lists the Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 in stock for 1999€, that's $2371. What was the card at MSRP again? $1500? Maybe there is a bit of EU tax in there but usually it's nowhere near as big of a difference. $100 at most.
Local market (EU) and the listing are like 3080: from 1000+€ (1185$), 3090: from 1900+€ (2255$). And all for pre-orders, non at stock...
AquinusBefore you factor in VAT, sure. That's 17-27% depending on where you are in the EU. If it's 20%, that's $300 USD added to a $1,500 product, making it $1,800. That's a big increase.
Do you know how much is the 1800$ in €€€? Let me tell you... Its 1520€ and you cant find here a 3090 for less than 1900€. Well you cant find it at all... because only preorders exist. No cards.
3080: 700$ + 25% VAT is 875$ = 737€. And you cant find any (preorder) for less than 1000€.

Well done nVidia!!
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#46
PowerPC
Zach_01Local market (EU) and the listing are like 3080: from 1000+€ (1185$), 3090: from 1900+€ (2255$). And all for pre-orders, non at stock...
Well, it said arriving within 3 days for the one I saw. That almost counts as in stock. But who knows it's maybe just a bug in the site.
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#47
Zach_01
PowerPCWell, it said arriving within 3 days for the one I saw. That almost counts as in stock. But who knows it's maybe just a bug in the site.
Here all resellers listing pre-orders or 30days waiting and its pretty much all the same.
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#48
PowerPC
Zach_01Here all resellers listing pre-orders or 30days waiting and its pretty much all the same.
I looked again because I thought maybe I looked wrong. It's was definitely not in stock, you're right.
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