trsttteI've been hang up on possibly buying the 5700g for a long time and this price is pretty good, but the X3D is also so low that it's even more appealing.

Need to wait to see what discounts on motherboards look like in the next couple of weeks, kinda silly buying a new AM4 board now but I need more expansion and with the X3D at these prices and still being top dog also not much sense going AM5/Intel.

CallandorWoTx3d is not top dog. 13600k beats it in several games.

AnotherReaderI think if @W1zzard did a 50 game comparison like he did recently for the 5800X3D and the 12900k, we will get a better answer. Given that the 13600k isn't much faster than the 12900k at 1080p, I think it and the 5800X3D would be very closely matched.

CallandorWoTThere are loads of reviews out there, go watch and read any of them. x3d is a great chip, but its toe to toe.

personally I want to see a 50 game match up of x3d vs 13600k for games that are 7 or more years old. i bet intel will dominate in every single older game, but who i knows i might be surprised. i have a massive backlog, and older games do tend to favor intel.

so i am pretty happy with my choice of 13600k.

Prima.VeraIf the discount is that big, it means that the 7800X3D is going to be a beast?

AnotherReaderNotice I said closely matched. The 13600k is very good, but the 5800X3D is no slouch either. Also I suspect that you're right; the 5800X3D is fast because of its enormous L3 cache which won't benefit older games as much.

CallandorWoT100% its going to be a beast. lets just hope AMD has the intelligence to thin out that IHS. Intel did for their 12th gen chips, or 11th gen, can't remember. and it improved temps a lot for Intel. not sure why AMD would not have learned from Intel's recent mistake on this, but eh what can you do. i don't make six figures, they do. so that's that. they the smart ones. :roll:



each consumer needs to buy for their own personal use case. for me thats older game backlog and also be competitive in newer games. so 13600k is perfect for me.

kmetekwhy USA only?

kmetekwhy USA only?

AnotherReaderNotice I said closely matched. The 13600k is very good, but the 5800X3D is no slouch either. Also I suspect that you're right; the 5800X3D is fast because of its enormous L3 cache which won't benefit older games as much.

Darmok N JaladI think AMD knew that a Zen4 X3D at launch would have muddied the waters too much and would have made the 7950X look less appealing.

I would actually expect it to swing the other way, as older games had simpler engines and might not need to go to RAM nearly as much as modern titles might. A really old game might not hit the memory at all! Just guessing though.

GunShotYup! That $64M+, etc. lost agrees with that TRUTH. :laugh:

Darmok N JaladI think AMD knew that a Zen4 X3D at launch would have muddied the waters too much and would have made the 7950X look less appealing.

I would actually expect it to swing the other way, as older games had simpler engines and might not need to go to RAM nearly as much as modern titles might. A really old game might not hit the memory at all! Just guessing though.

AnotherReaderThat is why I expect the extra cache to be of less benefit; these older games should see a marginal improvement going from 32 MB to 96 MB. TPU reports that the extra cache makes the 5800X3D only 3.4% faster than the 5800X in Witcher 3 at 1080p. On the other hand, the 12900k isn't doing much better either; it's only 6.3% faster than the 5800X.

Edit: Love the username; one of my favourite TNG episodes.

Darmok N JaladI think that says something right there. The 12900k has a 6.3% boost clock advantage over the 5800X, while the 5800X3D has a 9% disadvantage to the 5800X in clockspeed. If the X3D ran at the same clocks as 5800X, it could be quite the story to tell. So even an old title is getting a boost from that L3, despite being at a distinct disadvantage in terms of clockspeed. It used to be that faster frequencies were the best way to get more out of old titles, but the X3D is standing some old conventions on their heads. I really do think this is the future of gaming CPUs, but AMD and Intel might struggle to market it correctly. The CPU with the highest clocks and core counts may no longer be the most desirable product to a gamer.

DeathtoGnomesSo temping but I vowed to do AM5 build.

mkppoThe 5800X3D was reasonably priced

This price cut just makes it an insane deal

RH92EU gets shafted as per usual ( member those AM5 mobo + CPU + ram deals exclusive to NA ) , thank you AMD. Oh well im sure Europeans can return the favor to AMD !

TheLostSwedeThe 5800X3D is €10 more here. I guess it's to do with VAT differences.

RH92You mean on AMD store for Sweden ? Yes surely it has do withg VAT but i wonder what the massive difference between NA and EU pricing has to do with ? Or why is only NA getting exclusive discounts on AM5/7000 series ? I mean other than the obvious and pathetic customer discrimination. I believe media should put a little bit more emphasis on that stuff because had that been Intel or Nvidia they would't get a free pass !